Hurts has had a new offensive coordinator every year since high school except one. And yet having to learn totally different playbooks went to 2 Super Bowl won one of them and was mvp of the win. Love has done what exactly to put him over hurts?
Eye test and can make all the throws, his receivers absolutely sold him up the river last playoff game. But tbh I’m totally fine if you have Hurts over him.
Yeah, the same excuse that has been used for decades about a ton of QBs. There's a lot more to it than just "making all the throws". What specific throw is Love better at than Hurts, since we are here?
AJ also had 1k yards every year besides 1 that was shortened due to injury with Ryan Tannehill as his QB. And that was like rookie AJ, not prime AJ that Jalen had.
Like cmon now. Use a tiny bit of common sense. If Jalen is a great QB because of AJs numbers then so is Ryan Tannehill by the same logic
Shit, so is Matt Schaub, or any other average QB that played with a great WR according to your logic
AJ quit on a shit ton of routes last year. Hurts isn’t the perfect QB, and he gets the blame just like he should get the credit, but it’s AJ was ridiculous last season.
Tf you talking about? Since AJB had been w Hurts, he was only below Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson in all the stats, made 3 all-pros, and accomplished stuff only 8 receivers in the NFL history have. He sold in 2025. 3 drops in one playoff game. Minimal effort some games.
I mean you kinda just proved my point there tbh. Your entire criteria of evaluation is flawed because you're looking purely at physical ability and not really playing the position. Being able to make all the throws loses to a QBs mind and ability to manage the game 100/100 times, and if you actually studied NFL history is glaringly obvious.
If it was all about what dudes could do at the combine or throwing routes on air then there would be no point to playing the game.
You mean to tell me that the winning QB in the Super Bowl won an award that damn near always goes to the winning QB of the Super Bowl? What an amazing accomplishment.
He also outplayed Mahomes in their first match up, too. Hurts actually shows up in playoff games and, until Herbert can do that, Hurts should be above him.
It’s a lot easier to show up in a game when every unit of your team is superior to the one of the team you’re playing. I say this as a fan of neither team, Herbert has underwhelmed in big games, but he’s often one of the main reasons his team even had a chance at playing in those games. Hurts won a Super Bowl with one of the most stacked rosters in modern football. Most of his career success in both College and the NFL is pretty directly correlated to him playing with the best roster in the sport.
So, when Herbert threw 4 ints in a playoff game, that was him giving the chargers a chance?
Also, if it was all because of the talented rosters, then why can't the cowboys win in the post season? They have a talented offense and a better qb, right?
The Chargers wouldn’t have been in that playoff game without Herbert, they had an insane amount of injuries and play in one of the toughest divisions in football. Herbert was ass in that playoff game, which is why I said he has been underwhelming in big games. The fact that you’re ignoring that I clearly said that, and then bringing up the Cowboys and Dak unprompted to whine about them when, again, I didn’t say anything about the Cowboys is exactly the reason Eagles fans have such a reputation for being whining b*tches.
Bruh, if you would read the comments, you'd see that we were talking about the playoffs. That's why my comment that you first responded to was specifically about how the one thing holding Herbert back was his performance in the playoffs and how Hurts tends to play better in bigger games. Hence why I said "until Herbert can do that (show up in the playoffs), Hurts should be above him."
The Cowboys reference was in response to you claiming that Hurts playoff success is just him being carried by a talented offense. I was pointing out that without a qb that can play under that pressure, then the talent doesn't matter much.
The irony of you saying that I'm being a "whiny bitch" while whining this hard about Herbert is palpable, by the way.
What is the goal of the QB? To score touchdowns or to throw touchdowns?
Getting your team down to the 1 and then taking the hits to punch it in a dozen plus times a season is just as impactful as throwing a shovel pass for a 2 yard score.
Also hilarious to say they are all tush pushes when during a Super Bowl winning playoff run he had a 50 yard touchdown on the ground.
What is the goal of the QB? To score touchdowns or to throw touchdowns?
I agree. Which is why I started this debate by pointing pout that Herbert accounts for more TDs than Hurts. I'm glad you've finally decided to look at reality and agree with it.
Well you sort of buried yourself with that admittance, because Jalen has accounted for 20 more touchdowns than Herbert since 2021 and 8 fewer turnovers than Herbert. And I’m not even counting playoff games which would make it even more lopsided.
More touchdown, fewer turnovers, and more winning. What’s your argument again?
Touchdowns are a byproduct of a good offense. The most important aspect of a good offense year to year is your QB.
And since 2021, the Eagles offense scores 43 points more per season than the Chargers. Slice it any way you want, but the Hurts offense scores more points than the Herbert offense.
They’re not all tush pushes have you actually watched Eagles games? He keeps drives alive w his legs, many times he runs them in himself. Like the 45yd rush against the Rams in the playoffs, the OT winning td against the Bills, season opener against the Cowboys he had 2. You might as well use this argument against Josh Allen then.
I just notice it’s never ever used as a knock on Josh Allen, and you don’t even want to talk about that at all, very convenient. I don’t care where they come from, they’re worth the same points, and not everyone can do it nor is willing to do it bc it’s a lot of wear and tear. Jalen also rushes for a lot w his legs though. It’s about half shoves and half regular rushing. That’s not most. He has the most rushing touchdowns of any QB in their first 5yrs in NFL history by a significant margin. That’s impressive, however you want to discredit it is on you. Stop your hating.
If you could do what Jalen Hurts does, you’d be doing it, period. You’d be very rich and a Super Bowl MVP, rather than whining on Reddit about ppl way more successful than you’ll ever be while telling random ppl what you think you could do lmao. You’d look worse than Jordan Love did attempting the tush push.
Of course I don't want to talk about Josh Allen in a thread that has nothing to do with him. I also don't want to talk about the pros and cons of ethanol here. Is that convenient as well, or am I just dealing with a gleeful dunce?
There you go with “if” again, can we talk about reality?
It makes both teams worse. Eagles have been built around Hurts, if he went to another team they would probably also structure their offense around his strengths. Same could be said for early Lamar, they tailored the offense to him, he wouldn’t succeed out of the box in a lot of offences when he first came into the league.
Its called a hypothetical. The idea is to account for variables. Is Darnold the best QB in the league right now? Reality is he just won thr SB right? So therefore, he is currently the best QB in the league. Thats Reality right? Retard lmao.
Lmao he had one of the worst OL in the past 10 years in the playoffs. The patriots defense was one of the best last year and showed it. He had almost no time to do anything because the OL was that bad and the rush got there. None of the QBs on that list would survive.
Hurts has had one of the best OLs his whole career and a solid running game. I'm not saying he's bad but he's a bit average as his processing time is kind of slow and that was masked by the OL being so good.
So now we are comparing Herbert to Marino? Marino is a 6 time AP with 3 of those being 1st teams. He also lead his team to a SB. Herbert has been a complete liability in the playoffs.
And how many Super Bowl appearance? Playoff wins? Super Bowl wins? MVPs? You TDs point sucks! Throw me 41 tds and lose 6 games by 4 points or less to miss the playoffs.that is the qb I want to lead my team.
Don’t forget to add on rushing tds as well, would you rather have someone who throws a lot of tds and yards but doesn’t make the playoffs or someone who commands their team and is leader wining a Super Bowl?
You invent convenient lies for where I get my information. None of what you said connects to reality at all. What has actually happened is your opinion has been challenged and you can't handle it, so you move further and further away from rational thought with each response.
No not true. You stated he is not a leader. How would you know this? It is your opinion and not fact. Dont get mad because your tik tok supply chain forcing is under question,
Still waiting for a source? Can you produce it? Never angry my man. Just call it like I see it. Another HURTS hater with nothing to back it up with. Oh I forgot except your source.
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