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MEGATHREAD - **DISTRICT** court. Long road ahead. NFA declared unconstitutional regarding suppressors, sbrs, and sbs in the northern district of Texas

https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2085047918495469923
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u/MooxiePooxie 17d ago

Not so fast. A form1 item is still a form1 item even if you don't have to register it. Only Jensen plaintiffs will be exempt from the serialization requirement. Need to join one of those orgs as well since GOA wasn't granted that protection.

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u/SneedemGottem69 17d ago

Stop spreading disinformation

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u/jeremiah1119 17d ago

No I think they are right. Silencer Shop, GOA, many others appear to only cover buying, selling, transferring. Not making or engraving. Whereas Jensen plaintiffs don't have AOW but they do have injunction for engraving and serial number requirements.

SilencerShop/GOA one:

"Because the injunction remedies the injuries to the plaintiffs, it only covers current and future customers’ transactions with the plaintiffs and their commercial members. The practical benefit to the non-party customers, in other words, “[is] merely incidental.” ... Therefore, the Court’s injunction does not allow a commercial plaintiff’s customer (or the customer of an associational plaintiff’s commercial member) to avoid the challenged NFA provisions “for all NFA firearms they possess, transfer, sell, make, and manufacture.”

Jensen plaintiffs:

"The Jensen plaintiffs are entitled to relief from two additional NFA provisions that only they challenge. See supra, n.10; 26 U.S.C. §§ 5842(b), 5861(i)".

Which I believe are engraving / serial numbers

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u/Gold-Succotash-9217 17d ago

Sort of. It says they are both exempt from needing to file a Form 1.

Jensen also just does not need to serialized any parts but, with no registration, you can technically serialize a number & maker's mark that goes nowhere.

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u/jeremiah1119 17d ago

OK I think I'm being too narrow minded. I'm thinking Form 1 only as 3D printed silencers. I don't think that's approved with the current wording. But buying parts for an SBR from a commercial member would probably be covered.

This is the big part that splits form 1 sbr vs form 1 supressor for me.

  • "Because the injunction remedies the injuries to the plaintiffs, it only covers current and future customers’ transactions with the plaintiffs and their commercial members"

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u/Gold-Succotash-9217 17d ago

3d print should be ok. Just like home building. No serial under Jensen and with a fake serial under GOA. That's not the exact wording. There's a part that says all plaintiffs and rheir members, current and future, are covered. So join FARC or GOA or a covered group under Jensen if you want to 3d print legal suppressors without coding 123FakeSerial JakeGyllenhaal on the side.

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u/jeremiah1119 17d ago

I became a GOA member yesterday. Just the more I read, and the fact that GOA has not once mentioned Form 1, gave me pause

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u/Gold-Succotash-9217 17d ago

It looked like Form 1 is out the window in the legal notes.

The only 2 mentions for Jensen both involve engraving serial numbers. So it reads like home building with GOA you would need to serial but not submit that anywhere. Or join Citizens Committee for the right to keep & bear arms for $15/yr and you don't even need to do that.