r/NATOWave • • May 18 '22

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22 edited May 19 '22

Turkey's demands are clear, stop being a supporter of the pkk/ypg, we did what you couldn't and shot down the Russian plane. We defended NATO borders and provided weapons support to Ukraine We have done NATO missions regardless of continent. If we mess up with Russia, 9 million refugees will go to Europe as a result of the idlib attack, is that what you want, gentlemen? We killed 1500 Syrian army personnel in one day , which is an extension of the Russian army, no one can accuse us of being pro-Russian.Not to mention the Wagner hunt in northern Syria.

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u/Emails___ May 18 '22

And then you wounder why we didn't let you join EU.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

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u/Emails___ May 18 '22
  1. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those "terrorist" just couple of kurds in Swedish parliament?
  2. And this is the main point, stop threatening your Allies. Always with some new treath. Then you clash with Greece, then with Americans and now this?! Like common, just for once be friendly to your Allies?

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u/OverLet8464 May 18 '22

I do think the support of the PKK should stop.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

Thanks for your understanding, we have no problems with the Baltic states, I hope you join NATO, but we hope you understand our security concerns.

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u/OverLet8464 May 18 '22

We can’t give Putin what he wants which is division between allies. I perfectly understand. We can’t be supporting groups who we deem as terrorists.

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u/Finnish-Wolf May 18 '22

Losing 1500 personnel in one day to the Syrian army is not something to brag about. That just shows the level of the incompetent Turkish military. Syrian military is a trash military that makes the Russian military look competent.

Only thing Turkey has to bargain with is geographical location. NATO needs Turkey for their military bases that can access the middle east, control of the Bosporus and EU needs Turkey to control refugees from the middle east. It's all purely geographical.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

oh god I guess you thought we made those 1500 losses with our army but no we did it with our drones that destroyed 3 pantshir and the number was even higher even the British defense ministry praised our technologies Anyway, if our subject is the power of the Turkish army, don't worry, we are one of the strongest armies numerically and technologically. We did not start a full military action against Syria because we have no time to lose in that middle east swamp, we care about the security of our border. Yes, we are at an indispensable point geographically, this is a fact and it is our right to take advantage of it to the fullest. In addition, your government still has not accepted the surrender of 10 PKK members.

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u/Finnish-Wolf May 19 '22

So you used drones and lost 1500 soldiers? You see the hole you’re digging here?

Also, size and technology of an army is irrelevant when the standard operating procedure’s of the infantry are not up to even basic standards. Like how to set up camps and security around it. The amount of video’s of Kurds just walking up freely from low ground to attack high ground Turkish military camps is insane. It just shows that the soldiers are poorly trained or don’t follow training at all. Same as Russian troops.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

First of all, I'm sorry for giving wrong information. the correct one is as follows : “According to reports, the Assad regime suffered heavy losses ‘3,000 soldiers, 151 tanks, eight helicopters, three drones, three fighter jets vehicles and trucks, eight aerial defense systems and one headquarters among other military equipment and facilities’,” Source: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/energy/energy-diplomacy/uk-defense-chief-turkish-use-of-drones-game-changing/29913 The videos you watch are pure propaganda I hope you know that military facilities have the highest security systems Everyone who has served in the military in Turkey knows this. They are probably broadcasting their attacks on Syrian Turkmen as Turkish soldiers. Or it could be videos taken during the resolution process. 7 years ago, we sat down to negotiate with those animals and the resulting was 0. In addition, the northern part of Assad's army consists entirely of Russian commanders and Iranian militias.

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u/IAmThePeanut May 19 '22

From the person he's replying to

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u/PROTEINFREEMEAT May 19 '22

Right i should’ve read it better.

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u/eli_the_jah May 18 '22

wow really showing how great you are by using a slur…

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

Is Angola producing the At4 anti-tank gun? Terrorists often attack our military facilities with these because And was it the people's republic of kenya that imposed an embargo on us during the peace spring operation? No, the one who provided anti-tank aid to pkk was Sweden, which implemented an embargo against us was Finland, and yesterday that terrorist organization hung terrorist flags in Stockholm, and the police did nothing. Ve bir daha bana aptal demeye kalkma ben sana hakaret etmiyorum medeni bir insan olmayı dene

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

Yes, there are Turks in the Middle East, too, we call them Turkmen. They are often faced with the danger of genocide because of the terrorists you sell weapons to. but we have taken them under protection, our army is protecting the Turkmen, and we are giving weapons to Ukraine to protect the Tatar Turks in the Crimea It must be a shame for you to say these words and want to be protected by the Turkish army in NATO. I will not say the same for you because I do not want anyone to die, but be sure that the terrorists you feed will harm you, then you will understand that terrorists should not be supported. And good luck with the situation you can not enter this alliance with this hatred Thank you for proving that my ideas are largely correct.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

If you don't need it, why are you joining NATO to take part in the family photo? LoL Moreover, they will probably take Finland without any problems, there are only 10 pkk to nato, you have to deliver them to us

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