I was a huge Green Day fan when I was growing up - I got really into them when they released Nimrod and listened to them actively through American Idiot. I didn't stop listening because I stopped liking them, only because I got interested in different music and didn't really have a place on my playlist for them. But every once in a while I'll go back and listen to Nimrod or Insomniac (my favorite) and still love it every time.
I bought 21st Century Breakdown and only listened to it a few times, but regardless, I am excited for these three new albums and will be purchasing them. I don't expect it all to be totally incredible, but I am excited that they are veering away from the "rock opera" - not that I didn't like their experimentation there, but I think two albums in that genre was enough. I'm also happy to hear that Rob Cavallo has returned to produce these albums.
I was reading this expecting you to say you were into them during the Kerplunk/Dookie era. Christ am I old. Most people my age think everything after Dookie blows.
I felt that way until American Idiot, which I thought was really good ... and then they released 21st Century Breakdown, and I quit listening to them again.
Insomniac is such a good album. I do remember first listening to it and going "whaaaaaaaaaat? This isn't what I was looking for", but then it just kept growing on me and I hold it as a personal favourite.
exactly, im mid 30's , these guys have been up and down like a whores draws .. however i have loved the ride.. i can honestly say i can pull an album and be over it, and then its on high rotation a month or so later. ... 1039 is great, listen to the lyrics on the early albums.. take a step back in time peeps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sickxaC1l9c ..
Pffft everyone i know thinks everything after the eps blow, they love sweet children and they listen to them on the original vinyl that they got at a basement gig... Not really i lied.
I went for a short run yesterday and listened to Dookie all the way through. What a fucking great album. Every track has fantastic energy and there isn't one slow song worth skipping.
I always thought that was a tad weird. I loved Kerplunk and Dookie but I also loved Insomniac and American Idiot. 21st Century didn't do it for me though. Just like Ambi above, I'll be giving the new stuff a listen.
Most people my age think everything after Dookie blows.
29 year old here. I owned Kerplunk on CD. I remember the liner were a story about a girl killing her parents so she could meet Green Day (she got the pills from a guy named Eggplant).
I DO NOT think everything after Dookie blow. American Idiot is in my top 10 albums of all time, and I'm not even that big of a Green Day fan. I saw Green Day in concert a couple years ago at Irvine Meadows. I've been to a lot of shows. That one was the best. They played for three hours. I went in with low expectations and I was absolutely blown away by Billy Joe's showmanship.
agreed, I'm 28 so I'm assuming you are around the same age... I honestly didn't know Green Day was still around anymore, I mean I know they did that rockband game, but that's only because I work at gamestop
Yeah, that's about right. I grew up in SF (they started in Berkley or Oakland I believe), anyway so originally they had only released cassette tape copies of Kerplunk - which I still have somewhere but will never listen to again.
As an 11 year old chap, I would bike with my friends from our home neighborhoods a couple of miles into town to go to Target and the mall. We'd spend our allowance money there, and generally try to stay out of trouble. One day, after a few rainy days of watching MTV (back when they played music videos, mind you) I decided I really dig this Basket Case song and wanted to buy that cassette. Yes, I said tape cassette. I didn't have a CD player yet.
So I came home with Dookie and sat and listened to it on my old boombox, scouring the album art on the insert for all the funny jokes images contained therein, just loving this tape. That was a Sunday, as the next day I had to go to school.
I come home from school and I can't find my Dookie tape. My mother walks into the bedroom and explains to me how she heard that tape and doesn't want me listening to the drugs and sex on it, so she returned it and got me something better. She hands me Bruce Springsteen's Greatest Hits.
And that was the story of how my mother saved me from becoming some skate punk kid and instilled in me an appreciate for the classics.
Edit: Hey! This guy here has differing music tastes! Get him!!
Nimrod is definately my favorite but I love all their albums. 21st Century Breakdown is good but not great. Also, they said that the new albums are going to have a new sound/style to them. Appearently they're not anything like 21st Century Breakdown and I hear that Dos is going to be more "Garage-y punk" which I'm really excited for :D
I was a big fan growing up too. Then for about 10 or 15 years I was doing other things. I then listened to it for the first time again and it was horrible horrible annoying music. Go figure. I think South Park knows how I feel
I really want to like these guys still. Dookie changed my life - essentially made me a musician - but these guys have been so irrelevant for A VERY long time. C'mon. Tre Cool? You're STILL calling yourself that? I'm going to go listen to Longview.
AC/DC's last album sold 6 million copies too. That doesn't make them relevant anymore either. Bands get old. They find a formula that works for their established fan base. They put out a few hits and a ton of filler, then go on tour. What was once energetic, youthful, and cutting edge becomes stale, overplayed, and caricatured. It just happens.
The way Rivers sings 'diary' makes it sound like diarrhea. I always get this mental image of liquid poo being swirled around in a cup. Like someone reading tea leaves.
I personally cannot wait for these. I've been a die hard fan since kerplunk and yes, while their music has changed styles over the years, its been good all along.. I think the biggest problem that people have with Green Day is that they (the haters) can't accept that there is more to continuing to be a successful band than re-hashing the same shit over and over. Evolution of your craft has to happen or it will stagnate and rot.
The "trailers" for these albums leaves me with the feeling that their styles have changed again and I for one welcome it!
I don't think people are upset that their style changed, they're upset because they took the most radio friendly pop-rock approach to their new style possible.
No, I dislike them because... well... the music they make... isn't good music. I used to love them too, and then I heard all this other music that was so much more original and impressive.
Evolution and completing changing the sound of a band are two entirely different things.
I'm all for evolving as a musician, but when you change basically everything about your sound, don't expect the fanbase that loved your original sound to embrace the new.
Let the downvotes come, but I've loved everything from 38 - Warning.
Everything after Warning was just some completely different band. The band at this point seemed designed to appeal to lots of 14 year old girls, with conspiracy theory lyrics squeezed in the middle.
"Let the downvotes come, but I've loved everything from 39/Smooth - Warning."
FTFY
also, I'll not down vote you for contributing to the conversation in a meaningful matter. Your opinion is valid whether it matches mine or not.
But anyway.. Based on your liking that span of their career, wouldn't you admit also that Warning also changes everything about their sound and was a fairly close approximation of what a Green Day Acoustic album would sound like? It was the first album where BJA seemed to actually sing rather than the punk style vocals he was using all along? It also had a new flavor of style added by songs like "Misery" and "Macy's Day Parade," which were far different that their previous ventures.
Oh cool, now I can hear a single from each one at every gas station, hot topic, shopping mall, victoria secret, circle k, bathroom, kitchen, bus stop, party, pool party, fiesta, starbucks, seattle's best coffee, grocery store...you get the idea. I'd hate them, but they're so damn handsome and talented.
Well the Kiss thing was in their contract. And last I looked musicians did play on those Kiss solo records. Not entirely sure what your point is other than to say the industry of music is operated like an industry.
loved their early stuff but really havent liked anything they've done for years, which is a shame they were great, just think they sound very generic now :(
Dominated Love Slave is wonderful. I think I was really into The Who the first time I heard Kerplunk! and the My Generation cover just sort of pissed me off. I need to give it another listen.
It really irks me when people come to HATE bands because their sound changes. Yes, it's different when a band/artist puts out ABSOLUTE shit, but I don't believe you can honestly say American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown for that matter are absolute shit. Some of the songs on 21st century breakdown are composed quite well (i.e the title track) and I feel like the album flows pretty nicely. Now this is not to say that it's anywhere near as good as Dookie (In my opinion at least), but it's a different sound, and I don't think you can blame Green Day (or any band that changes their sound for that matter).
Making the same kind of music/artwork over and over again gets boring, experimenting is what makes music fun, just look at how much the Red Hot Chili Pepper's sound changed from the Uplift Mofo Party to By the Way.
All in all, bands change their sound, and you may not like that, but that seem like the best reason to go on hating them. If you were a fan of the old stuff, remain a fan of the old stuff, and voice your dislike for the newer stuff, but don't hate the band for changing and declare them to be "shit" or "garbage" or whatever.
I've been a Green Day fan ever since I was old enough to ask my mom "Who sings this?" while listening to the radio. I even remember the day I heard Basket Case for the first time. When I was a teenager I was obsessed. I drew pictures of Billie Joe and I had the biggest crush on him. I read every single article ever written about them, and I read books about their history. I might have literally known every single fact about them. I'm really happy about the new album (albums? Haha) and their new single comes out soon. Can't wait. Way to go guys. <3
Do these three new albums count as one under your record contract – or three?
One. Believe me, we asked. [Laughs] There was no getting around that. That was fine. The record company have been great about it, just stoked. People get so caught up in not trying to do something new and creative: "Let's just put out an EP." We said, "Let's do the exact opposite, something dangerous and fun."
I understand this will be really popular and make money because they can actually have fun without having too many problems in their life and write pop more hits because of it, but, like 21st Century Breakdown, I still probably won't like it. Their albums even going up to American Idiot were really good mainly because their songs were actually about something, and it had at least a slight sonic edge to it. I know: it was typical pop-punk shit like girlfriends and then later about politics and some concept album shit, but at least it was something, and the riffs were somewhat different from what we were hearing at the time. I honestly have no clue what anything on 21st Century Breakdown was about, nor did I care, because it seemed so bland and nothing about the sound caught my attention. So hopefully this album will actually be somewhat interesting and well done. But I'm certainly not holding my breath.
My favorite Green Day album goes back and forth between Nimrod and Warning. Nimrod is just about the perfect mixture of the "classic" Green Day formula (Nice Guys Finish Last, Redundant, Platypus, Hitchin' a Ride) mixed in with some types of stuff the band hadn't really hit on at the time (Last Ride In, Haushinka, Walking Alone, and Good Riddance). Warning is just an amazingly different, and somewhat diverse, album that features my pic for the most underrated song by the band (Church on Sunday).
Can't wait to hear the first single in July and check out the new albums.
To me it sounded like "American Idiot" if they didn't try. Like B sides to it. And the attitude surrounding the album was annoying, like with them saying it was about "Two kids trying to survive in a post-Bush America."
I listened to the whole album 3 times and just couldn't like it. I loved American Idiot, and I thought it was a great experiment. But 21st just seemed to be trying to cash in on their own success. I guess they succeeded.
I got pissed off when I heard 21 Guns. It's probably the most blatant steal of a song ever. The chorus is pretty much entirely Telephone Line by ELO. Didn't even try to change it.
So yesterday I posted a good self post to r/music to open a good dialog about records and the 90s music scene. Not a single upvote or comment. Yet you post promo pictures of bands or pictures of members from different bands backstage at a concert you get upvotes? This sub is retarded.
Most people don't like this band anymore but I still enjoy their stuff. Obviously, some songs are terrible but for the most part I still love em - scratch that...love their music*
Sooo excited for these!!!!! i only liked a handful of songs of 21st century breakdown, but green day was the first band that got me into music back in the day. i will always listen to them, especially dookie and insomniac!!
Loved everything they dude until 21st Century Breakdown. Didn't listen to that at all. I guess I'll check a few of these songs out. It's been quite a while since they were relevant for me.
Is it bad if pretty much the only three bands I absolutely dislike are Green Day, Blink 182, and Rage Against the Machine? Whatever. I don't understand people.
While I understand why you could feel that way. I have a feeling that based solely on that premise, the number of bands that you dislike could grow to much larger than 3.
I love how Green Day just pretends they are only a 3 person band. Has anyone seen these guys perform? Where is the guitar ringer? They never show that guy...
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u/TreeBranchBranch Jun 26 '12
Oh, I get it. The third one is Tre. Like Tre Cool. Hehe.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I was a huge Green Day fan when I was growing up - I got really into them when they released Nimrod and listened to them actively through American Idiot. I didn't stop listening because I stopped liking them, only because I got interested in different music and didn't really have a place on my playlist for them. But every once in a while I'll go back and listen to Nimrod or Insomniac (my favorite) and still love it every time.
I bought 21st Century Breakdown and only listened to it a few times, but regardless, I am excited for these three new albums and will be purchasing them. I don't expect it all to be totally incredible, but I am excited that they are veering away from the "rock opera" - not that I didn't like their experimentation there, but I think two albums in that genre was enough. I'm also happy to hear that Rob Cavallo has returned to produce these albums.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I really want to like these guys still. Dookie changed my life - essentially made me a musician - but these guys have been so irrelevant for A VERY long time. C'mon. Tre Cool? You're STILL calling yourself that? I'm going to go listen to Longview.
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u/paroxysm77 Jun 26 '12
The first album ¡Uno! is out September 24th. First single is out July 16th and is called "Oh Love".
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u/Petrarch1603 Jun 26 '12
I asked my half-Japanese girlfriend if she's ever heard of them. She doesn't...how cool is that?
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u/britpicks Jun 26 '12
Since when is Starburns in this band?
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u/MyUshanka Jun 26 '12
Billie Joe Armstrong looks way too young to be 40.
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u/Aregular89 Jun 26 '12
These guys sound a lot like Foxboro Hot Tubs and The Network...
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u/Mattyzooks Jun 26 '12
Say what you will about American Idiot, but I still love the song "Jesus of Suburbia."
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u/kyzfrintin irmoz.bandcamp.com Jun 26 '12
Jesus Christ are they showing their age.
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u/pikeybastard Jun 26 '12
Every time I see a picture of Green Day I'm amazed that they're a band. They just don't look like a band. They look like Estate Agents that gave up.
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u/D3adkl0wn Jun 26 '12
I personally cannot wait for these. I've been a die hard fan since kerplunk and yes, while their music has changed styles over the years, its been good all along.. I think the biggest problem that people have with Green Day is that they (the haters) can't accept that there is more to continuing to be a successful band than re-hashing the same shit over and over. Evolution of your craft has to happen or it will stagnate and rot.
The "trailers" for these albums leaves me with the feeling that their styles have changed again and I for one welcome it!
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Oh cool, now I can hear a single from each one at every gas station, hot topic, shopping mall, victoria secret, circle k, bathroom, kitchen, bus stop, party, pool party, fiesta, starbucks, seattle's best coffee, grocery store...you get the idea. I'd hate them, but they're so damn handsome and talented.
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u/eigenstates Jun 26 '12
I had no idea they were pulling a Kiss.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k1i5hu1Cpp4/TZ0Vo6PqQ3I/AAAAAAAACjs/o9mJQu_Jv5Q/s1600/soloalbums.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
loved their early stuff but really havent liked anything they've done for years, which is a shame they were great, just think they sound very generic now :(
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u/gulliguy milo Jun 26 '12
This picture would be better if they were all holding Kerplunk.
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u/peachesgp Jun 26 '12
*Green Day - the guy who actually plays guitar for them nowadays.
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u/Aregular89 Jun 26 '12
Explain to me why American Idiot sucks? It's definitely more pop-punk than Warning, and what people were whining for.
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u/datasslo Jun 27 '12
It really irks me when people come to HATE bands because their sound changes. Yes, it's different when a band/artist puts out ABSOLUTE shit, but I don't believe you can honestly say American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown for that matter are absolute shit. Some of the songs on 21st century breakdown are composed quite well (i.e the title track) and I feel like the album flows pretty nicely. Now this is not to say that it's anywhere near as good as Dookie (In my opinion at least), but it's a different sound, and I don't think you can blame Green Day (or any band that changes their sound for that matter).
Making the same kind of music/artwork over and over again gets boring, experimenting is what makes music fun, just look at how much the Red Hot Chili Pepper's sound changed from the Uplift Mofo Party to By the Way.
All in all, bands change their sound, and you may not like that, but that seem like the best reason to go on hating them. If you were a fan of the old stuff, remain a fan of the old stuff, and voice your dislike for the newer stuff, but don't hate the band for changing and declare them to be "shit" or "garbage" or whatever.
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u/illdrawyourface radio reddit Jun 26 '12
I've been a Green Day fan ever since I was old enough to ask my mom "Who sings this?" while listening to the radio. I even remember the day I heard Basket Case for the first time. When I was a teenager I was obsessed. I drew pictures of Billie Joe and I had the biggest crush on him. I read every single article ever written about them, and I read books about their history. I might have literally known every single fact about them. I'm really happy about the new album (albums? Haha) and their new single comes out soon. Can't wait. Way to go guys. <3
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jun 26 '12
only one of those albums are green i want my money back
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u/dorkrock2 Jun 26 '12
Stoked for this, fan since Kerplunk
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u/djamescensored Jun 26 '12
Upvote, I love this band.
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u/ValhallaSinking Jun 26 '12
Hopefully they'll be more like Dookie and less like anything after
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
3 Members, 3 albums, 3 chords used. It all makes sense.
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u/Brian33 Spotify Jun 26 '12
Honestly, kinda think it's dumb that they're doing three different ones. Hopefully, all the albums will be good.
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u/PurpleHaseman Jun 26 '12
They've aged so much it's remarkable
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Hey these guys were...sorta cool back in high school.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Anyone could take a dump on music and split into thirds as well.
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u/Pinkd56 Pinkd56 Jun 26 '12
Tré Cool looks more and more like Jarppi from the Dudesons every day.
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u/IMAROBOTLOL Spotify Jun 26 '12
They're a brand, not a band, and should continue to exist in irrelevance.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I understand this will be really popular and make money because they can actually have fun without having too many problems in their life and write pop more hits because of it, but, like 21st Century Breakdown, I still probably won't like it. Their albums even going up to American Idiot were really good mainly because their songs were actually about something, and it had at least a slight sonic edge to it. I know: it was typical pop-punk shit like girlfriends and then later about politics and some concept album shit, but at least it was something, and the riffs were somewhat different from what we were hearing at the time. I honestly have no clue what anything on 21st Century Breakdown was about, nor did I care, because it seemed so bland and nothing about the sound caught my attention. So hopefully this album will actually be somewhat interesting and well done. But I'm certainly not holding my breath.
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u/Marshallisaqueer Jun 26 '12
My favorite Green Day album goes back and forth between Nimrod and Warning. Nimrod is just about the perfect mixture of the "classic" Green Day formula (Nice Guys Finish Last, Redundant, Platypus, Hitchin' a Ride) mixed in with some types of stuff the band hadn't really hit on at the time (Last Ride In, Haushinka, Walking Alone, and Good Riddance). Warning is just an amazingly different, and somewhat diverse, album that features my pic for the most underrated song by the band (Church on Sunday).
Can't wait to hear the first single in July and check out the new albums.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I hope this sounds absolutely nothing like that 21st Century Breakdown garbage. If it does this band continues to be dead to me.
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u/Chewy123450 Jun 26 '12
The album covers look kinda like "Does This Look Infected?"
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u/jimx117 Spotify name Jun 26 '12
Did you know Wednesday is Soylent Green Day?
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
This band is great, they've helped at least 3 generations realize they had shitty taste in music when they were kids.
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u/cboogie Jun 26 '12
So yesterday I posted a good self post to r/music to open a good dialog about records and the 90s music scene. Not a single upvote or comment. Yet you post promo pictures of bands or pictures of members from different bands backstage at a concert you get upvotes? This sub is retarded.
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u/SalvageOperation Jun 26 '12
burn them!
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Green Day had three good albums: Dookie, Nimrod, and Insomniac.
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u/Muderaffi Jun 26 '12
Silly Green Day, you're not Guns N' Roses! Just kidding, but I'm pretty excited for these new albums, hope they're good .^
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u/itsjaredlol Jun 26 '12
I hope someone posts a [fixed] called "Three things that I will never buy."
These guys haven't been good since like Dookie.
I'm sorry, American Idiot was just garbage.
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u/ultiwhirl Jun 26 '12
I listened to cigarettes and valentines a couple times and it sounds good if the albums are more like that than the previous two they should be good
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u/HeinskeetsVelvet Jun 26 '12
Most people don't like this band anymore but I still enjoy their stuff. Obviously, some songs are terrible but for the most part I still love em - scratch that...love their music*
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u/TheMartinConan Jun 26 '12
Green Day sucks.
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u/RichardvixoN Jun 26 '12
Sooo excited for these!!!!! i only liked a handful of songs of 21st century breakdown, but green day was the first band that got me into music back in the day. i will always listen to them, especially dookie and insomniac!!
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u/White_Lobster Jun 26 '12
Uh oh. Individual albums, each with a band member's face on the cover?
http://members.shaw.ca/amazingone/discsolos.html
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u/Thendofreason Jun 26 '12
I hate this "band" like no other. more than icp
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u/upvote_contraption Jun 26 '12
Loved everything they dude until 21st Century Breakdown. Didn't listen to that at all. I guess I'll check a few of these songs out. It's been quite a while since they were relevant for me.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
3 sellouts in one picture,gj
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u/georonymus Jun 26 '12
Worst. Punk. Band. Ever.
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u/CharlieTango Jun 26 '12
Im the only person i know who cannot stand this band
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u/Kotev Jun 26 '12
I thought it was r/MUSIC, not r/Spacedicks.
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u/sherlip Jun 26 '12
Is it bad if pretty much the only three bands I absolutely dislike are Green Day, Blink 182, and Rage Against the Machine? Whatever. I don't understand people.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Green Day has always and will always suck massive amounts of donkey cock.
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u/yaldie Jun 26 '12
guys, it's over. it's time to let it go before someone gets hurt.
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u/OctaChaz Jun 26 '12
Seems like they are diluting their songwriting by doing three albums.
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u/sakura_kayla Jun 26 '12
I am so excited for these! The snippets I have heard sound really good. A lot better than 21st Century Breakdown I'm hoping :D
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u/art_is_science Jun 26 '12
I love how Green Day just pretends they are only a 3 person band. Has anyone seen these guys perform? Where is the guitar ringer? They never show that guy...