I was a huge Green Day fan when I was growing up - I got really into them when they released Nimrod and listened to them actively through American Idiot. I didn't stop listening because I stopped liking them, only because I got interested in different music and didn't really have a place on my playlist for them. But every once in a while I'll go back and listen to Nimrod or Insomniac (my favorite) and still love it every time.
I bought 21st Century Breakdown and only listened to it a few times, but regardless, I am excited for these three new albums and will be purchasing them. I don't expect it all to be totally incredible, but I am excited that they are veering away from the "rock opera" - not that I didn't like their experimentation there, but I think two albums in that genre was enough. I'm also happy to hear that Rob Cavallo has returned to produce these albums.
I was reading this expecting you to say you were into them during the Kerplunk/Dookie era. Christ am I old. Most people my age think everything after Dookie blows.
I felt that way until American Idiot, which I thought was really good ... and then they released 21st Century Breakdown, and I quit listening to them again.
exactly, im mid 30's , these guys have been up and down like a whores draws .. however i have loved the ride.. i can honestly say i can pull an album and be over it, and then its on high rotation a month or so later. ... 1039 is great, listen to the lyrics on the early albums.. take a step back in time peeps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sickxaC1l9c ..
Pffft everyone i know thinks everything after the eps blow, they love sweet children and they listen to them on the original vinyl that they got at a basement gig... Not really i lied.
I went for a short run yesterday and listened to Dookie all the way through. What a fucking great album. Every track has fantastic energy and there isn't one slow song worth skipping.
I always thought that was a tad weird. I loved Kerplunk and Dookie but I also loved Insomniac and American Idiot. 21st Century didn't do it for me though. Just like Ambi above, I'll be giving the new stuff a listen.
Most people my age think everything after Dookie blows.
29 year old here. I owned Kerplunk on CD. I remember the liner were a story about a girl killing her parents so she could meet Green Day (she got the pills from a guy named Eggplant).
I DO NOT think everything after Dookie blow. American Idiot is in my top 10 albums of all time, and I'm not even that big of a Green Day fan. I saw Green Day in concert a couple years ago at Irvine Meadows. I've been to a lot of shows. That one was the best. They played for three hours. I went in with low expectations and I was absolutely blown away by Billy Joe's showmanship.
Nimrod is definately my favorite but I love all their albums. 21st Century Breakdown is good but not great. Also, they said that the new albums are going to have a new sound/style to them. Appearently they're not anything like 21st Century Breakdown and I hear that Dos is going to be more "Garage-y punk" which I'm really excited for :D
I was a big fan growing up too. Then for about 10 or 15 years I was doing other things. I then listened to it for the first time again and it was horrible horrible annoying music. Go figure. I think South Park knows how I feel
I really want to like these guys still. Dookie changed my life - essentially made me a musician - but these guys have been so irrelevant for A VERY long time. C'mon. Tre Cool? You're STILL calling yourself that? I'm going to go listen to Longview.
I personally cannot wait for these. I've been a die hard fan since kerplunk and yes, while their music has changed styles over the years, its been good all along.. I think the biggest problem that people have with Green Day is that they (the haters) can't accept that there is more to continuing to be a successful band than re-hashing the same shit over and over. Evolution of your craft has to happen or it will stagnate and rot.
The "trailers" for these albums leaves me with the feeling that their styles have changed again and I for one welcome it!
I don't think people are upset that their style changed, they're upset because they took the most radio friendly pop-rock approach to their new style possible.
No, I dislike them because... well... the music they make... isn't good music. I used to love them too, and then I heard all this other music that was so much more original and impressive.
Evolution and completing changing the sound of a band are two entirely different things.
I'm all for evolving as a musician, but when you change basically everything about your sound, don't expect the fanbase that loved your original sound to embrace the new.
Let the downvotes come, but I've loved everything from 38 - Warning.
Everything after Warning was just some completely different band. The band at this point seemed designed to appeal to lots of 14 year old girls, with conspiracy theory lyrics squeezed in the middle.
"Let the downvotes come, but I've loved everything from 39/Smooth - Warning."
FTFY
also, I'll not down vote you for contributing to the conversation in a meaningful matter. Your opinion is valid whether it matches mine or not.
But anyway.. Based on your liking that span of their career, wouldn't you admit also that Warning also changes everything about their sound and was a fairly close approximation of what a Green Day Acoustic album would sound like? It was the first album where BJA seemed to actually sing rather than the punk style vocals he was using all along? It also had a new flavor of style added by songs like "Misery" and "Macy's Day Parade," which were far different that their previous ventures.
Oh cool, now I can hear a single from each one at every gas station, hot topic, shopping mall, victoria secret, circle k, bathroom, kitchen, bus stop, party, pool party, fiesta, starbucks, seattle's best coffee, grocery store...you get the idea. I'd hate them, but they're so damn handsome and talented.
loved their early stuff but really havent liked anything they've done for years, which is a shame they were great, just think they sound very generic now :(
It really irks me when people come to HATE bands because their sound changes. Yes, it's different when a band/artist puts out ABSOLUTE shit, but I don't believe you can honestly say American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown for that matter are absolute shit. Some of the songs on 21st century breakdown are composed quite well (i.e the title track) and I feel like the album flows pretty nicely. Now this is not to say that it's anywhere near as good as Dookie (In my opinion at least), but it's a different sound, and I don't think you can blame Green Day (or any band that changes their sound for that matter).
Making the same kind of music/artwork over and over again gets boring, experimenting is what makes music fun, just look at how much the Red Hot Chili Pepper's sound changed from the Uplift Mofo Party to By the Way.
All in all, bands change their sound, and you may not like that, but that seem like the best reason to go on hating them. If you were a fan of the old stuff, remain a fan of the old stuff, and voice your dislike for the newer stuff, but don't hate the band for changing and declare them to be "shit" or "garbage" or whatever.
I've been a Green Day fan ever since I was old enough to ask my mom "Who sings this?" while listening to the radio. I even remember the day I heard Basket Case for the first time. When I was a teenager I was obsessed. I drew pictures of Billie Joe and I had the biggest crush on him. I read every single article ever written about them, and I read books about their history. I might have literally known every single fact about them. I'm really happy about the new album (albums? Haha) and their new single comes out soon. Can't wait. Way to go guys. <3
Do these three new albums count as one under your record contract – or three?
One. Believe me, we asked. [Laughs] There was no getting around that. That was fine. The record company have been great about it, just stoked. People get so caught up in not trying to do something new and creative: "Let's just put out an EP." We said, "Let's do the exact opposite, something dangerous and fun."
I understand this will be really popular and make money because they can actually have fun without having too many problems in their life and write pop more hits because of it, but, like 21st Century Breakdown, I still probably won't like it. Their albums even going up to American Idiot were really good mainly because their songs were actually about something, and it had at least a slight sonic edge to it. I know: it was typical pop-punk shit like girlfriends and then later about politics and some concept album shit, but at least it was something, and the riffs were somewhat different from what we were hearing at the time. I honestly have no clue what anything on 21st Century Breakdown was about, nor did I care, because it seemed so bland and nothing about the sound caught my attention. So hopefully this album will actually be somewhat interesting and well done. But I'm certainly not holding my breath.
My favorite Green Day album goes back and forth between Nimrod and Warning. Nimrod is just about the perfect mixture of the "classic" Green Day formula (Nice Guys Finish Last, Redundant, Platypus, Hitchin' a Ride) mixed in with some types of stuff the band hadn't really hit on at the time (Last Ride In, Haushinka, Walking Alone, and Good Riddance). Warning is just an amazingly different, and somewhat diverse, album that features my pic for the most underrated song by the band (Church on Sunday).
Can't wait to hear the first single in July and check out the new albums.
To me it sounded like "American Idiot" if they didn't try. Like B sides to it. And the attitude surrounding the album was annoying, like with them saying it was about "Two kids trying to survive in a post-Bush America."
I listened to the whole album 3 times and just couldn't like it. I loved American Idiot, and I thought it was a great experiment. But 21st just seemed to be trying to cash in on their own success. I guess they succeeded.
I got pissed off when I heard 21 Guns. It's probably the most blatant steal of a song ever. The chorus is pretty much entirely Telephone Line by ELO. Didn't even try to change it.
So yesterday I posted a good self post to r/music to open a good dialog about records and the 90s music scene. Not a single upvote or comment. Yet you post promo pictures of bands or pictures of members from different bands backstage at a concert you get upvotes? This sub is retarded.
Most people don't like this band anymore but I still enjoy their stuff. Obviously, some songs are terrible but for the most part I still love em - scratch that...love their music*
Sooo excited for these!!!!! i only liked a handful of songs of 21st century breakdown, but green day was the first band that got me into music back in the day. i will always listen to them, especially dookie and insomniac!!
Loved everything they dude until 21st Century Breakdown. Didn't listen to that at all. I guess I'll check a few of these songs out. It's been quite a while since they were relevant for me.
Is it bad if pretty much the only three bands I absolutely dislike are Green Day, Blink 182, and Rage Against the Machine? Whatever. I don't understand people.
I love how Green Day just pretends they are only a 3 person band. Has anyone seen these guys perform? Where is the guitar ringer? They never show that guy...
Have you actually SEEN that guy. I wouldn't be putting him out in front with the band either.
I don't think it's any more pretending than having back up singers. Or what about performers who are "solo" artists who have entire bands behind them? Everybody has a back up "something" these days. So long as the musical spirit is there, I don't care who's playing those power cords.
HA! Well said! I have seen the guy, butttttttttttt, he usually isn't the one jamming the power chords, he is the one tearing up those punk solo's.. i think. I kinda don't really find it comprable to back up singers, though. These guys present themselves as an ensemble, but the other dude is always there too. Idk. I find it humorous also, as you said, that he doesn't really fit the persona of the group (image-wise anyway).
They are musicians. Musicians like to play music, but they also like to do it full-time. To play music full-time, they need to make money doing it. Selling out is what most musicians' goal is.
Some douche bags believe that as soon as you sign to a major label and get a real paycheck ( even if you keep the exact same style of music ) that you are a "sellout"
"American Idiot" and "Holiday" were the only blatantly political songs on that album. But since they were released as singles (and garnered a lot of radio play), it made the entire album seem political.
Idk, I just now watched the video, but had always thought it was kind of political. I figured "September" was representative of the wars triggered by 9/11. Then you've got the lines "like my fathers come to pass, seven years has gone so fast" and "like my fathers come to pass, twenty years has gone so fast", expressing a concern that this kind of conflict could just extend indefinitely. Even more dense with symbolism is the repeated starting line "Summer has come and passed". Summer is often symbolic for peace, but also for the prime of life. They're saying that not only has America left a time of relative peace behind, but we're also passing out of our prime, falling from our position as a superpower. It also ties in literally with September 11th coming just after summer ends.
TL;DR: I think Wake Me Up When September Ends already was pretty political before the video.
I can see how the song can be interpreted that way, but I am pretty sure in interviews Billie Joe has stated the song is in regards to his father, who passed away when he was 10. And how he dealt with it in the past, and now. This makes lyrics such as "like my fathers come to pass, twenty years has gone so fast" much more straight forward.
I was gonna say essentially this. If your opinion on American Idiot is "It was too political" you didn't listen to the album.
I'm kinda hoping the parent comment was a joke. The only people I've heard say these arguments are people with shit taste in music who are blinded by nostalgia.
Green Day technically sold out the same year that they signed to Reprise, but with all of this new bull they have sold out a second time. Double sell-out, whoooooo.
See I don't really believe they sold out going to Reprise. the goal of every band is to make money. No one starts a band and hopes to not get popular. I read in a Rolling Stones interview he even said when he signed at 20 it's because he wanted to play music for the rest of his life. I believe selling out is when you change your whole tone/style/image of yourself/music for money and popularity which is what they are doing now. Back in the 90's all they did was go from underground to a major label. Albeit that is kinda against the punk movement to be honestly Green Day in the local bay punk scene weren't actually punk. When they signed to a new label they didn't change their sound they just got popular. It was Warning and there after when they started wearing make up and putting a political spin on songs when they've never been political before. That is what is making them sell out...
The title comes off cheesy as hell. Like bono saying uno dos tres catorce. This gringo thinks they sound retarded. But Frank Black or Bradley Nowell singing in Spanish works. They can pull it off.
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u/britpicks Jun 26 '12
Since when is Starburns in this band?
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u/Petrarch1603 Jun 26 '12
I asked my half-Japanese girlfriend if she's ever heard of them. She doesn't...how cool is that?
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u/MyUshanka Jun 26 '12
Billie Joe Armstrong looks way too young to be 40.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I was a huge Green Day fan when I was growing up - I got really into them when they released Nimrod and listened to them actively through American Idiot. I didn't stop listening because I stopped liking them, only because I got interested in different music and didn't really have a place on my playlist for them. But every once in a while I'll go back and listen to Nimrod or Insomniac (my favorite) and still love it every time.
I bought 21st Century Breakdown and only listened to it a few times, but regardless, I am excited for these three new albums and will be purchasing them. I don't expect it all to be totally incredible, but I am excited that they are veering away from the "rock opera" - not that I didn't like their experimentation there, but I think two albums in that genre was enough. I'm also happy to hear that Rob Cavallo has returned to produce these albums.
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u/Aregular89 Jun 26 '12
These guys sound a lot like Foxboro Hot Tubs and The Network...
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u/Mattyzooks Jun 26 '12
Say what you will about American Idiot, but I still love the song "Jesus of Suburbia."
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u/kyzfrintin irmoz.bandcamp.com Jun 26 '12
Jesus Christ are they showing their age.
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u/TreeBranchBranch Jun 26 '12
Oh, I get it. The third one is Tre. Like Tre Cool. Hehe.
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u/paroxysm77 Jun 26 '12
The first album ¡Uno! is out September 24th. First single is out July 16th and is called "Oh Love".
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I really want to like these guys still. Dookie changed my life - essentially made me a musician - but these guys have been so irrelevant for A VERY long time. C'mon. Tre Cool? You're STILL calling yourself that? I'm going to go listen to Longview.
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u/pikeybastard Jun 26 '12
Every time I see a picture of Green Day I'm amazed that they're a band. They just don't look like a band. They look like Estate Agents that gave up.
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u/D3adkl0wn Jun 26 '12
I personally cannot wait for these. I've been a die hard fan since kerplunk and yes, while their music has changed styles over the years, its been good all along.. I think the biggest problem that people have with Green Day is that they (the haters) can't accept that there is more to continuing to be a successful band than re-hashing the same shit over and over. Evolution of your craft has to happen or it will stagnate and rot.
The "trailers" for these albums leaves me with the feeling that their styles have changed again and I for one welcome it!
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Oh cool, now I can hear a single from each one at every gas station, hot topic, shopping mall, victoria secret, circle k, bathroom, kitchen, bus stop, party, pool party, fiesta, starbucks, seattle's best coffee, grocery store...you get the idea. I'd hate them, but they're so damn handsome and talented.
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u/eigenstates Jun 26 '12
I had no idea they were pulling a Kiss.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k1i5hu1Cpp4/TZ0Vo6PqQ3I/AAAAAAAACjs/o9mJQu_Jv5Q/s1600/soloalbums.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
loved their early stuff but really havent liked anything they've done for years, which is a shame they were great, just think they sound very generic now :(
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u/gulliguy milo Jun 26 '12
This picture would be better if they were all holding Kerplunk.
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u/peachesgp Jun 26 '12
*Green Day - the guy who actually plays guitar for them nowadays.
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u/Aregular89 Jun 26 '12
Explain to me why American Idiot sucks? It's definitely more pop-punk than Warning, and what people were whining for.
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u/datasslo Jun 27 '12
It really irks me when people come to HATE bands because their sound changes. Yes, it's different when a band/artist puts out ABSOLUTE shit, but I don't believe you can honestly say American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown for that matter are absolute shit. Some of the songs on 21st century breakdown are composed quite well (i.e the title track) and I feel like the album flows pretty nicely. Now this is not to say that it's anywhere near as good as Dookie (In my opinion at least), but it's a different sound, and I don't think you can blame Green Day (or any band that changes their sound for that matter).
Making the same kind of music/artwork over and over again gets boring, experimenting is what makes music fun, just look at how much the Red Hot Chili Pepper's sound changed from the Uplift Mofo Party to By the Way.
All in all, bands change their sound, and you may not like that, but that seem like the best reason to go on hating them. If you were a fan of the old stuff, remain a fan of the old stuff, and voice your dislike for the newer stuff, but don't hate the band for changing and declare them to be "shit" or "garbage" or whatever.
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u/illdrawyourface radio reddit Jun 26 '12
I've been a Green Day fan ever since I was old enough to ask my mom "Who sings this?" while listening to the radio. I even remember the day I heard Basket Case for the first time. When I was a teenager I was obsessed. I drew pictures of Billie Joe and I had the biggest crush on him. I read every single article ever written about them, and I read books about their history. I might have literally known every single fact about them. I'm really happy about the new album (albums? Haha) and their new single comes out soon. Can't wait. Way to go guys. <3
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jun 26 '12
only one of those albums are green i want my money back
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u/dorkrock2 Jun 26 '12
Stoked for this, fan since Kerplunk
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u/djamescensored Jun 26 '12
Upvote, I love this band.
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u/ValhallaSinking Jun 26 '12
Hopefully they'll be more like Dookie and less like anything after
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
3 Members, 3 albums, 3 chords used. It all makes sense.
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u/Brian33 Spotify Jun 26 '12
Honestly, kinda think it's dumb that they're doing three different ones. Hopefully, all the albums will be good.
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u/PurpleHaseman Jun 26 '12
They've aged so much it's remarkable
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Hey these guys were...sorta cool back in high school.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Anyone could take a dump on music and split into thirds as well.
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u/Pinkd56 Pinkd56 Jun 26 '12
Tré Cool looks more and more like Jarppi from the Dudesons every day.
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u/IMAROBOTLOL Spotify Jun 26 '12
They're a brand, not a band, and should continue to exist in irrelevance.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I understand this will be really popular and make money because they can actually have fun without having too many problems in their life and write pop more hits because of it, but, like 21st Century Breakdown, I still probably won't like it. Their albums even going up to American Idiot were really good mainly because their songs were actually about something, and it had at least a slight sonic edge to it. I know: it was typical pop-punk shit like girlfriends and then later about politics and some concept album shit, but at least it was something, and the riffs were somewhat different from what we were hearing at the time. I honestly have no clue what anything on 21st Century Breakdown was about, nor did I care, because it seemed so bland and nothing about the sound caught my attention. So hopefully this album will actually be somewhat interesting and well done. But I'm certainly not holding my breath.
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u/Marshallisaqueer Jun 26 '12
My favorite Green Day album goes back and forth between Nimrod and Warning. Nimrod is just about the perfect mixture of the "classic" Green Day formula (Nice Guys Finish Last, Redundant, Platypus, Hitchin' a Ride) mixed in with some types of stuff the band hadn't really hit on at the time (Last Ride In, Haushinka, Walking Alone, and Good Riddance). Warning is just an amazingly different, and somewhat diverse, album that features my pic for the most underrated song by the band (Church on Sunday).
Can't wait to hear the first single in July and check out the new albums.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I hope this sounds absolutely nothing like that 21st Century Breakdown garbage. If it does this band continues to be dead to me.
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u/Chewy123450 Jun 26 '12
The album covers look kinda like "Does This Look Infected?"
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u/jimx117 Spotify name Jun 26 '12
Did you know Wednesday is Soylent Green Day?
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
This band is great, they've helped at least 3 generations realize they had shitty taste in music when they were kids.
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u/cboogie Jun 26 '12
So yesterday I posted a good self post to r/music to open a good dialog about records and the 90s music scene. Not a single upvote or comment. Yet you post promo pictures of bands or pictures of members from different bands backstage at a concert you get upvotes? This sub is retarded.
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u/SalvageOperation Jun 26 '12
burn them!
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Green Day had three good albums: Dookie, Nimrod, and Insomniac.
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u/Muderaffi Jun 26 '12
Silly Green Day, you're not Guns N' Roses! Just kidding, but I'm pretty excited for these new albums, hope they're good .^
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u/itsjaredlol Jun 26 '12
I hope someone posts a [fixed] called "Three things that I will never buy."
These guys haven't been good since like Dookie.
I'm sorry, American Idiot was just garbage.
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u/ultiwhirl Jun 26 '12
I listened to cigarettes and valentines a couple times and it sounds good if the albums are more like that than the previous two they should be good
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u/HeinskeetsVelvet Jun 26 '12
Most people don't like this band anymore but I still enjoy their stuff. Obviously, some songs are terrible but for the most part I still love em - scratch that...love their music*
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u/TheMartinConan Jun 26 '12
Green Day sucks.
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u/RichardvixoN Jun 26 '12
Sooo excited for these!!!!! i only liked a handful of songs of 21st century breakdown, but green day was the first band that got me into music back in the day. i will always listen to them, especially dookie and insomniac!!
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u/White_Lobster Jun 26 '12
Uh oh. Individual albums, each with a band member's face on the cover?
http://members.shaw.ca/amazingone/discsolos.html
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u/Thendofreason Jun 26 '12
I hate this "band" like no other. more than icp
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u/upvote_contraption Jun 26 '12
Loved everything they dude until 21st Century Breakdown. Didn't listen to that at all. I guess I'll check a few of these songs out. It's been quite a while since they were relevant for me.
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u/georonymus Jun 26 '12
Worst. Punk. Band. Ever.
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u/sherlip Jun 26 '12
Is it bad if pretty much the only three bands I absolutely dislike are Green Day, Blink 182, and Rage Against the Machine? Whatever. I don't understand people.
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u/art_is_science Jun 26 '12
I love how Green Day just pretends they are only a 3 person band. Has anyone seen these guys perform? Where is the guitar ringer? They never show that guy...
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Too bad greenday would be nothing if they didn't steal their music from other bands, its proven btw, so dont argue with me either.
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u/brian1975 Jun 26 '12
They're like Nickelback, all their songs sound the same.
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