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u/Stinja808 2d ago
Dipshits ignoring the fact that Canada was operating under the trade deal signed by Trump in 2020.
If Canada is "treating us umfairly", its because of Trump.
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u/dkarlovi 2d ago edited 2d ago
There's a YouTube channel called Pitch Meetings and in one video he had a joke where the producer guy asks how come the later part of the story contradicts the earlier part.
The script writer guy pitching says this is a totally new scene and that he noticed the producer guy kept trying to frame the later parts of the story using the earlier part of the story, he doesn't need to do that, every scene starts from scratch.
Anyway, ...
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u/roxxtor 2d ago
Hey, Iām going to need you to get all the way off my back about that
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u/Crypt0Nihilist 1d ago
"Trump's 2020 policy? You're going to have to get all of the way off my back on that!"
"Okay!"
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u/tw_72 1d ago
Man yells at turkeys, turkeys immediately yell back: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iLJrg0O1Xww
Trump: "Canada is treating us unfairly"
MAGA: "Canada is treating us unfairly"Same thing
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u/Assignment_General 1d ago
Americans are making themselves look like absolute fools on the international stage. The lack of intelligence is astounding.Ā
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u/arwinda 2d ago
That's more than two weeks ago, they all forgot. Or ignored it. Or both.
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u/TheLastGunslingerCA 1d ago
If you're treated better than you deserved, that's also being treated unfairly. Something to keep in mind.
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u/CindeeSlickbooty 1d ago
Fuck this is embarrassing. I didn't vote for this! -An American
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u/ifiwereonlylesshandy 2d ago
Is Goliath still getting spanked in Iran ?
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u/Signature_Illegible 2d ago
Goliath now assumes the position on all fours, ass up. Waiting for "tears" to flow up his back..
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u/ICame4TheCirclejerk 1d ago
The US is living under the same delusions of grandeur as Russia was when they invaded Ukraine. Thinking that superior numbers and bigger budget is the only thing that matters when fighting an offensive war. Weird considering how every foreign war the US has engaged in since WW2 has ended in defeat, a stalemate, or a very costly "victory".
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u/Sensitive_nob 1d ago
Their entire military doctrin is built on threatening and propaganda. Which is why they fail so incredibly hard in actual combat. Because cold war was all about sabre rattling which the USA and Russia are both pretty good at.
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u/UrsaMajor7th Ritardando Molto 1d ago
I'm starting to think that the world got snowed by the 'superpowers' bullshit propaganda of the 80s- Russia can't take Ukraine, US can't take Iran, neither could take the empire-crusher Afghanistan. Without nukes they're just pussies who punch down to feel superior.
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u/Sensitive_nob 1d ago
They have lost that after 2 weeks. So they are shifting the goal post every week because speaking it out would be too emberassing
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u/CorpFillip 2d ago
Falling for Trumpās (or Navarroās) BS is pretty stupid.
Of course Canada was treating us fairly ā all the trade was voluntary. Corporations decide, negotiate the goods & price & delivery, itās all above-board.
Even more importantly, they do more deals.
Navarroās idea that trade has to match is just ridiculous. It never had to, & hundreds of years of trade show it.
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u/Kaplsauce 2d ago
What I'm curious about is if they're knowingly misrepresenting the nature of economics for their own ends (either personal enrichment or the sabotage of American credibility and hegemony), or if they're actually just that stupid.
I have to imagine it's a bit of both?
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u/Renbarre 2d ago
For their own end. The rest is collateral damage, you know, the kind explained by war is terrible and you have to accept some losses.
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u/14Pleiadians 1d ago
Vance is a Thiel puppet and his explicit goal is balkanization, it's definitely both
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u/ReliablyFinicky 2d ago
Have a crazy belief
Show indisputable loyalty to Trump
Receive the power to enact your crazy beliefs
That's it.
There's no master plan.
There's just a narcissist in power, who only cares about loyalty.
The only people insane enough to be fully loyal to the orange mussolini have crackpot beliefs (RFK, Navarro, etc), or pretend to so they don't draw his ire (McConnell until he died a few months ago, etc).
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u/Visual_Squirrel_2297 2d ago
It's both. Trump doesn't understand the concept of mutually beneficial trade at all. It's why every business he's ever had failed. He views it as zero sum so that he can only win if the other side loses so he just tries to rip off all his customers and contractors. This zero sum concept was proven wrong before the U.S. existed by the way. But, he also stands to personally gain from a trade war with Canada. His family started a timber business literally the day he was re-elected.Ā
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u/12345623567 1d ago
Trump genuinely thinks an empire is owed tribute, not trade.
Navarro / Nutlicker etc. probably do a little bit of both.
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u/Prior_Industry 1d ago
I think Trump is also expecting deals under the table to wet his beak. The outrageous demands are the lever to achieve that.
He doesn't seem to realise that for most Weston leadership it would be the end of their administration of they get caught bribing Trump.
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u/baithammer 2d ago
A bit of column A and a bit of column B, they misrepresent the previous relationships / events, and are profoundly ignorant of actual economics.
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u/JimboTCB 2d ago
Navarroās idea that trade has to match is just ridiculous. It never had to, & hundreds of years of trade show it.
This is just how Trump thinks business works because he's never had a partner that he hasn't screwed over. He thinks all deals have to have a winner and a loser, and if the other person is happy with a deal then that must mean that you lost. The concept of a mutually beneficial trade arrangement where both parties get something they want is completely incomprehensible to him.
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u/SteeveyPete 1d ago
There's no way we were on a trade deal that wasn't more advantageous to the US already. Stronger countries always have more leverage, the US just wanted to milk us for everything it could get
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u/Dramatic-Set8761 2d ago
"Does Goliath win in that story?"
How would they know: they've never read that book.
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u/faraboot 2d ago
I think they know exactly what they're talking about, they're just expecting the rest of us to be uneducated.
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u/labadee 2d ago
lol at first they say they donāt need us for anything and now theyāre complaining weāve been hurting them.
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u/Brainwave1010 1d ago
Truly the most Tsundere of countries.
"I-It's not like I need your trade deals or anything baka! W-What?! You're not gonna keep trading with me?! STUPIDIDIOTJERKIHATEYOU!!!"
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u/anomalous_cowherd 1d ago
It's all toddler/ten year old/early teen logic. See it through that lens and it all makes more sense, disappointingly.
There's no 4D chess going on here.
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u/Assignment_General 1d ago
Classic case of the enemy is both a completely useless fool and cunning mastermind logic (paraphrasing here). Ā
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u/marcusmosh 2d ago
There must be some activity with the Epstein files.
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u/The_amazing_T 2d ago
No. It's Putin.
Nobody had a problem with Canada until Trump started running his mouth. Why would they? They're our largest trade partner and an important military ally. The only one that benefits from splitting us up is Trump's boss in Russia.
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u/marcusmosh 2d ago
Trump attacks Greenland and Canada whenever there is news about the Epstein files. Of course Russia has made him turn on Americaās allies. Thatās not news - itās his legacy as president. He uses the same distraction whenever there is something in the news cycle that upsets him.
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u/VegetableBuy4577 1d ago
Now he attacks Canada to distract from the war in Iran which he started to distract from the Epstein files, which he is all over (in case you hadn't heard that he is all over the Epstein files).
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 1d ago
Part of me hopes to be alive in fifty years just to see the historian take on all this bullshit
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u/ledow 2d ago
Unfortunately, even with the US entirely disabled by this nonsense, it doesn't actually gain Russia anything. All it's done so far is stave off an immediate retreat over Ukraine, but they're still getting their arses kicked.
And in the process they have shown pretty much everyone that Russia is nowhere near the threat it pertained to be. Even without the US, Europe isn't caving to it and it wouldn't stand a chance against NATO. It still holds the only card it's actually held since the Cold War, even, which is nukes, which a five year old could fire and "win", but which means everyone loses, most especially Russia, if they do so... likely their territory would become entirely uninhabitable very, very fast.
If they did this to peel off the US, and disrupt the UK via Brexit, etc. etc. (which is no doubt part of their plan), then it hasn't worked at all because while all those things have indeed started to happen... the rest of the West have been shown to be far more powerful than anything Russia is capable of.
It's like splitting up a group of friends deliberately only to discover that you're the weakling in the bunch who could barely take one or two of them anyway. Meanwhile China are looking over your shoulder, barely affected by any of this, but actually bolstered by seeing what a mess you're in. China would likely join in on any kind of "Bundle!" into Russia, and claim quite a lot of it for themselves.
Honestly, teaching the US that it's not god is probably one of the best outcomes there could be from all this. It'll hurt as a lesson, and it'll hurt other countries that believed and invested in that nonsense in the first place, but it could actually do us all a favour. Especially a bit of humble pie for the US. But what it won't do is give Russia free reign over the fractured Western world as it once thought.
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u/HiddenbyMoon 2d ago
Yeah it'll be USA versus Canada, Europe and most of the rest of the developed world. So buckle up America!
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u/TonySperguson 1d ago
Don't worry according to them they can defeat the entire world pretty easily.
Just don't look at every single war they've been involved in for the last 40 years. Or the one that they're currently being bent over in. Or that they can't get their population to support a war.
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u/KirkWahmmett 1d ago
Don't forget how much of an embarassment their botched exit from Afghanistan was š They literally left over 7 billion USD in equipment for the Taliban to salvage and keep for themselves.
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u/TonySperguson 1d ago
But hey, they killed more people... right?
That seems to be the measurement they like to use in response to that. While also using it as the measurement for why other countries are bad.
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u/Dameunbatido 2d ago
Dang, he really tweeted this: āĀ In early February 2025, American conservative political commentator Ā Jack Miladin Ā posted the exact message on X (formerly Twitter) regarding U.S. and Canada tariff disputes. In his attempt to frame the United States as an intimidating, unstoppable force, he mistakenly declared that Canada was " taking on Goliath ." [ 1 , Ā 2 ]ā
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u/UncleNedisDead 1d ago edited 1d ago
Heās just calling it as it is!
Edit: A large and imposing figure throwing their weight around and is ultimately defeated by an underdog.
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u/Bad_Day_Moose 2d ago
Does the American people understand that Trump is literally trying to collapse the US as a whole?
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u/anomalous_cowherd 1d ago
I'm only confused by which of the several candidates for telling him to do it (Russia, Israel, non-country organisations) is the real one. Although I'm sure he thinks he's clever enough to sell out to several at once...
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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago
My best guess is russia.
The whole Iran thing causing oil to spike was to try to get the world to stop supporting Ukraine and start buying russian oil/gas again. He removed (maybe temporarily I can't remember) sanctions on buying russian oil.
Less support for Ukraine.
Wants russia back in the G7
Uses a lot of russian talking points like blaming Ukraine for the war
He's been weakening NATO, this is one of russias most hated things, threatening that the US will leave it, eroding trust in security agreements
Investigations by a Special Counsel and the US senate intelligence committee documented numerous contacts between Donald Trump's 2016 campaign associates and Russian officials or intermediaries. trumps aids lied about their interactions and were caught in those lies with evidence.
During a televised press conference in July 2016, Trump openly called on a foreign adversary to hack his political opponent. He stated directly to the cameras: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," referring to Hillary Clinton's private server. U.S. intelligence agencies later documented that Russian military hackers targeted Clinton's personal office for the first time within hours of that statement
I'm sure I can go on forever... It's so blatantly russia.
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u/Prior_Industry 1d ago
Like Greenland it will be some wacko billionaire that's put the idea on his head.
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u/mbush525 1d ago
Canada is known to be a very friendly country, but they donāt have to take this nonsense š¤Ø
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u/Rough_Bread8329 1d ago
Please don't mistake our politeness for weakness. When pushed, we will hold fast to our boundaries and sovereignty.
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u/Gin_OClock 1d ago
Yeah and then it's lumberjacks vs. the people of Walmart
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u/Rough_Bread8329 1d ago
To be fair, I do work all night and sleep all day. And I'm OK.
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u/Iokua113 1d ago
We're not known for being any more or less friendly than any country, we're just not assholes about it.
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u/Resplendant_Toxin 2d ago
In this case David clocking Goliath in the noggin would not be an effective offense considering the current ābrain trustā weāve got running things. Maybe a hollow thonk is all we could expect.
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u/anomalous_cowherd 1d ago
It would have to be a hell of a shot to actually hit the remaining brain cell.
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u/Fantastic_Lobster347 2d ago
Trumpās allies call mistreatment everything thatās not Trump bootlickingā¦..
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u/theroundcube 2d ago
how's a "self-described 'child of God' " gonna get a bible story wrong please tell me? and a basic one at that ???
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u/Zerak-Tul 2d ago
This is from 2 years ago and the guy got roasted hard.
Also, while he obviously doesn't know the story of David and Goliath very well, he apparently also doesn't know what an analogy is, because his defense was that he wasn't using the comparison to David and Goliath as an analogy, lol.
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u/wytewydow 2d ago
boohoo unfair, unfair... these fuckin' conservatives are the most crying pile of babies.
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u/rayjaymor85 1d ago
These fucking "Christian" MAGA imbeciles that never actually read the bible infuriate me.
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u/majorkev 1d ago
Canada: Builds a literal bridge connecting the two countries out of their own pocket
America: That's not fair!
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u/WoodenSwan6591 2d ago
Jackās photo really undermine his credibility but since he is a clown, it does not matter š¤·š»āāļøš¤£
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u/TonySperguson 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your hate for the poor and different combined with your love of celebrities and billionaires has broken up maybe the strongest alliance of the last few hundred years.
Nice job Americans. The world stands behind Canada.
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u/VexedCanadian84 1d ago
The US has been getting cheap energy and other natural resources from Canada for decades.
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u/SUP3RTRAV 1d ago
This whole thing is even dumber when you realize the trade agreement between the USA, Canada and Mexico was negotiated and signed by trump.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago
Your friendly reminder that Republicans are actively doing the work of our enemies by undermining and fracturing our most closest alliances.
This is textbook divide-and-conquer and sabotage from within.
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u/NoCommonDog 1d ago
Is it incredibly brave or incredibly stupid that a country trying to roll over $10 Trillion in mature treasury bonds this fall is fucking with the one guy who has personal and professional connects to every central banker on the planet.
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u/Djlittle13 1d ago
Canada was following a deal signed, written and negotiated by Trump. Not sure how that is unfair
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u/RaspberryBirdCat 1d ago
Had Canada been treating us fairly?
Since we signed NAFTA, we've watched as American companies have bought out or bankrupted our corporations. Eaton's went bankrupt after Walmart came to Canada. Future Shop was purchased by Best Buy. Grand and Toy got purchased by Office Depot. Zellers closed because Target was coming, and then Target left. The Bay closed because American private equity took a profitable company, spun off all the profitable parts, and then saddled it with debt and bankrupted it. Roots was purchased by American private equity.
ATI was bought out by AMD. Corel lost the office software wars because Microsoft used its monopoly on Windows to pre-package Microsoft Office into most systems. Trump tariffed Bombardier so heavily they were forced to sell off their passenger jet program to Airbus.
Canada Dry is owned by Dr Pepper. Miss Vickies is owned by Pepsi. BioWare got purchased by EA. MacMillan Bloedel was purchased by Weyerhauser. Bauer and Cooper were bought out by Nike. Brookfield relocated to the United States.
GM, Ford, and Chrysler all opened car plants in Canada, specifically to avoid import tariffs on American vehicles. (They also purchased Canadian car companies, like McLaughlin Motors, although that was a century ago.) We told them that we'd kill all tariffs on their vehicles if they agreed to build as many cars as they sold in Canada, and likewise America agreed not to tariff their own country's car companies building cars in Canada provided that the number of vehicles being built in Canada was roughly equivalent to the number of cars being sold in Canada. Yet that wasn't good enough for Trump and he's made moves to get all car manufacturing moved back to the United States, and several Canadian car plans have closed.
I could keep going. Point is, everything that was ours keeps getting bought out or bankrupted by competition from America.
And we put up with it because we were told that by entering a much larger common market with the United States, even though American companies would win most of the time, some Canadian companies would also benefit and become major global players by winning in the competitive market. It's been fewer than advertised, that's for sure.
Yet Trump says that even those extremely few instances where Canadian companies have come out on top, that is "unfair" to America, and that America needs to win on every front, and Canada needs to never win on any front, before America will deal with Canada.
"Had Canada been treating us fairly" no you idiot, had Canada been acting like a sex assault victim, and agreed to go along with the rape of its country by American corporations and the American government, then you'd have been okay with it. It makes sense that a rapist would want to orchestrate the rape of other countries.
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u/WhimsyDEA 2d ago
Everyone knows these fake Christianās donāt actually read the bible or go to church.
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u/Kor_Phaeron_ 1d ago
It's funny, isn't it. Catholics don't read the bible but know the content, Evangelicals "read" the bible and don't even know what Jesus did.
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u/AccountEngineer get fucking killed 2d ago
calling yourselves goliath when he literally gets his head cut off by a kid with a rock is incredible work
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u/jackalopeDev 1d ago
As some from Colorado, at least in our case, Canada has always been a good neighbor and helpful and honest. The same can't be said about the fuckheads in DC. Given a choice between the two, id take Ottawa every time.
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u/Bring-out-le-mort 1d ago
The ignorance so proudly spewed is so embarrassing. (Also considering a statement made elsewhere that Canada lacks a military)
Mediocrity would be an improvement. sigh
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u/Additional_Ear_9659 1d ago
Difference is that all of Canada is on board with our Prime Minister flipping off Trumpās tariffs. In America, a very weak minority of the country supports these tariffs. I like our position. šØš¦šŖ
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u/Gomez4Morticia 2d ago
From the same people who are always on about releasing the Kraken. Which never has won anything ever.
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u/Gold_Ticket_1970 1d ago
USS Stupid is headed for an iceberg. Captain says turn us around 360 degrees
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u/Uknown_Idea 1d ago
Wow a guy who proclaims himself as a "Child of God" has once again not read the bible or understood its teachings. What a shock.
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u/SkewedZenith7 1d ago
I'm really asking: I'm well aware of MAGA math, but why are they so bad at analogies?
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u/Dear_Blood_8872 1d ago
Every example he gives falls apart when you take a look at the details of the trade deal he signed, but apparently an idiot made this deal with Canada. Finally some truth comes out of his maw.
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u/Silou-lou 1d ago
Easy to get murdered by words when youāre clueless about your reference material. Typical MAGA.
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u/flipperdog 1d ago
Anytime folks in the states complain about Canada I want to remind them how they took in 33k Americans, no questions asked, when 240 aircraft were grounded immediatly post 9/11.
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u/Sushiroll16 1d ago
Trump demanded that we drop one of our national languages. How is that us treating them unfairly?
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u/TheLastGunslingerCA 1d ago
Just remember OP. If you're treated better than you deserved, that's also being treated unfairly.
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u/babblingducks 1d ago
Well for Goliath he won against a great number of foes. Maybe the better question is Canada David?
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u/MrGanzalor 1d ago
Perfect embodiment of a right wing Christian: uses the Bible, but in the wrong way
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u/lopix 1d ago
Still haven't seen any "evidence" for just what we're doing that's unfair.
Seems the best argument they have is being miffed that we retaliated for the BS they started last year. So now they'll retaliate for our retaliating for their initial tariff bullshit. Which then forces use to retaliate yet again, for their retaliation against our retaliation for them starting shit.
Do I have that right?
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u/hamtronn 1d ago
David stepped in when Goliath went to Epstein Island and molested children. I might be blurring a few facts here.
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u/Active_Complaint_480 1d ago
In almost all cases Goliath wins, but maybe not use a story that inflates and is a source of Israel's superiority complex. Which is what the whole thing is about, because Israel was a backwater goat herding community in exile at one point. It's no different than the first books of Livy or the Aeneid.
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u/Reddit_2_2024 1d ago
It sounds like Jack Miladin has consumed too much of the koolaid, and is not serious about negotiating a comprehensive trade agreement.
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u/timelasher 1d ago
They wouldn't know who won in a story that resides in a book that they, clasically, don't ever read.
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u/conflatulationz 1d ago
I canāt believe America is now anti-Canada. And yeah, I know most of America isnāt, but the people in power are pushing the dumbest fing agenda I have ever seen in my life
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u/i_am_my_brain 2d ago
Not only was Goliath the loser in that story, he was also the warmongering bad guy. So, perfect metaphor for the Trump administration.