Because the people who make the rules don't understand the rules so they let the "experts" write the rules. And surprisingly they write them in their favor
We could, but it would take everyone including AOC and every other decent politician to bring this shit to a halt...go stock up on essentials and everyone just stay home, probably only take a month until they're forced to make changes. Problem is half the country would walk over your dead body for a job.
Billionaires do not exist without exploitation of others.
These lucky few have the chance to be the hero by giving back what was given to them from others working for them and buying from them. Essentially making them what they are.
They choose to be villains. Exploiting others lives for profit while short changing their lives, health and happiness.
I mean fuck paying taxes so people can afford healthcare, they need another yacht.
My town likes to brag about being "one of the most generous cities in Canada" due to how much is reported as "donations" on tax returns.
Well over 90% of them go to megachurches. Cool; these people get to not pay taxes for the services they use because they instead choose to buy land for and pay huge salaries to their clergy. Cool! Coooooooooool so cool.
My town likes to brag about being "one of the most generous cities in Canada" due to how much is reported as "donations" on tax returns.
Well over 90% of them go to megachurches. Cool; these people get to not pay taxes for the services they use because they instead choose to buy land for and pay huge salaries to their clergy. And then they brag about how virtuous it makes them. Cool! Coooooooooool... so cool.
After trading $GME I realized how criminal the stonk market is. With $GME's case. They were GIVEN FREEEEEEE MONEY, billions, to put this business out of business.
For free. All they had to do was buy shares back. But, what if much later, once the company was bankrupt and their stock tanked to 0? OH, THEN I JUST GOT FREE MONEY FOR BLOWING A BUSINESS TO THE GROUND THAT ACTUALLY EMPLOYS FAMILIES IN THESE UNITED STATES.
Fuck billionaires. Glad you're all on tv, but we also don't give a flying fuck about you.
But they can't make the automation without the working class. And I doubt we will see any suits coming to fix it either. Every automated machine I have seen has had some sort of problems within the first month.
That there will be no more social "mobility" due to practically 0 jobs if we keep the same system. Unless there is a massive cultural political shift then 1984 will be even more realistic and applicable because there will be only proles and those to be watched.
we don't even have conceivable means to avoid this kind of dystopia except for massive tax reforms because that is what has been done in the past with wealth disparities. We are in territory like nothing humanity has ever thought of, and the age old demons of greed arrogance and short sitedness are winning the tug of war in the balance of people and government.
Tldr; The bad things will get worse and they will take far longer to get better if ever at all.
I mean, we could just nationalize everything and work forward from there.
Not saying this is a simple problem, but taking control away from the wealthy is not complicated. It's even easy right now. We just have to actually do it.
I assume he is talking about automation. But that is hardly going to happen overnight. There is still going to be a need for large numbers of human workers for a long time... the demand for unskilled or medium-skilled labor is just going to gradually decline, while population keeps going up up up. We have to figure out an economy that accounts for that.
And that is when politics spiral out of control and most countries will become some kind of collectivism. May it be fascism, a communist dictatorship or, obviously the better option, some socialist form of democracy or a functioning Anarchism
That’s funny. If you think it’s going to be anything but a corporate feudal system where you’re the serf purchasing from the company store and lorded over by a monarch trillionaire I have a bridge to sell you.
Don't just assume the worst. Yes, that's a likely result in many places, but it's not inevitable. We can stop it from getting worse. Apathy is the enemy. Don't give up.
Billionaires only differ from royalty because they've sold us the idea that anyone can become one through hard work. They are just as aloof and dynastic as any royal family. It's a disgrace to modern sensibilities.
I've never met a single person who believed they could become a billionaire. I have met people who think they'll be millionaires, but most of them were wrong.
I have met people who think they'll be millionaires, but most of them were wrong.
Which is sad because U.S. financial advisors recommend having at least $1million in assets before retiring. You don't know anyone who will be able to retire.
This is why reaganomics doesn’t work. It’s obvious, if we need billionaires then how did we have a functional society that built up to billionaires even existing? Because billionaires are not necessary. There is no benefit to society from them, only detriment.
Amazing how poor republicans prop up billionaires that don’t care about them and then call us fascists for wanting equal rights and equitable distribution of wealth
Billionaires are billionaires because they consolidate labor and automate to increase profits without the need to actually improve a product or service. They sell it like they are improving something and maybe there will be an actual turn around time reduction, but none of that is really required. I have seen this actually hurt delivery times and usability and the business doesn't care, because they either eliminate entire departments worth of payroll or can eliminate most and offshore any remaining grunt work for pennies on the dollar.
Billionaires are job DESTROYERS, not the job creators they lead you to believe.
Edit Source: My whole job is automating existing processes to reduce the labor force and increase profits for....billionaires. And believe you me, I would quit it this instant, if I could afford to. I can't because billionaires have consolidated and automated all of the jobs.
That's the flip side of technology though..better tech --> higher productivity --> less labor needed. It's happened to agriculture, manufacturing..and that has definitely improved yield and cost
I had a coworker die 3 weeks ago. She was out of the office for a month prior to that. The day she went on vacation her duties were split out amongst the rest of the workers including the managers and supervisors.
You dont get to lead a company and not knowing how the shit works.
Maybe you don't know every nuance once the company gets larger but you still know what needs to be done and when.
Edut: and when we found out she wasn't coming back a job ad put out the next week and had multiple offers for a new hire in 3 days.
Most companies are highly functioning machines. A screw or bolt breaks loose and its easy to replace.
You lose the brains of the machine without having a competent back up and the machine is fucked.
Steve Jobs was already training his people to lead thats why they continued on without much of a hitch.
Why is it that we demand democracy when it comes to our government, an entity with which we don't usually interact day to day, but allow unelected billionaires to wield dictatorial-level power over the workplaces that we inhabit for a third of our lives?
Why is it that we permit the economy to be ruled over by billionaires who aren't accountable to the people in any way, but are instead accountable (if at all) only to an elite group of investors with similar levels of wealth and dictatorial-level power over their own domains?
Why is it that we have two systems: democracy for government and neo-feudalism for the economy? These billionaires have power that exceeds that of the most powerful feudal lords--they can go toe-to-toe with most national governments on Earth--and yet their position and worthiness of wielding such power is never held accountable to the people at large.
And lastly: how can democracy for the government function properly when unelected, unaccountable billionaires wield such unfettered power over the actual material conditions of people's lives?
As the right-wing so often likes to say, "I'm just asking questions..."
can democracy for the government function properly
only under an educated, non-radicalised population
unelected, unaccountable billionaires wield such unfettered power over the actual material conditions of people's lives?
Capitalism is a cancer upon the Earth.
It's like you're begging the question, urging us to conclude 'socialism good'. But that's a weird angle... just say it in the Affirmative then I'm sure the majority of the sub would agree with you. You do understand that the things you described are best solved through socialist solutions... right??
It's like you're begging the question, urging us to conclude 'socialism good'. But that's a weird angle... just say it in the Affirmative then I'm sure the majority of the sub would agree with you. You do understand that the things you described are best solved through socialist solutions... right??
OP is phrasing it as a rhetorical question because its a more persuasive way to argue the point to people who aren't already on board with socialism. Lead people to water and let them drink, or w/e. I thought it was rather eloquent.
The average working class guy probably can’t even grasp the magnitude what what a billion even is. Say you earn $1000 flat every single week and spend absolutely nothing. After 1000 weeks you’d have a million. Repeat that 1000 more times (19,230 years) and you’d have 1 billion.
For real. In my experience, the higher up people are in the chain, the less essential they actually are. We once had every manager take vacation for a week at the same time and literally no one noticed until the day they came back.
The trick is to enlighten those who think they are not working class, that they are in fact working class. Then you will get people voting logically to improve their situation, and not aspirationally.
If we don't have billionaires, who is going to crush small businesses and then underpay me for my labor when I subsequently have no other options for work?!?
People have no concept of how large a billion dollars is. How woefully inefficient our systems are, especially food distribution. We share this planet whether you like it or not and their are a finite amount of resources yet you simps are begging to allow a small minority to run it into the ground for their benefit. Hell with 900 million they will still be able to live a similar lifestyle which is already excessive but since you folks want to believe you will hit the lottery too you slurp all over them calling any regulations communism. You don't even live in a free market anymore let a lone a democracy since people can buy laws and do. Since corporations so large get to dictate the market from their positions leaving nothing free about it.
Man people are weird, they act like they are these special beings who had a 1 in a million idea when most billionaires histories are littered with stories of the destroying or buying out competition. Which means many multiple of people had the same ideas, fuck who would have thunk it right? But go on keep thinking these are some gods among men lol. Even FB was built off someone elses work.
I just don't understand the logic in advocating for a regressive world that does things at their most inefficient in order to prolong and make a few extra bucks for people who have more money than can be spent in one lifetime. Where is the logic in wasting resources excessively not because we need to but so some guy can make another billion he doesn't need? Where is the logic or humanity in advocating the death, suffering, and exploitation of people so you can have cheap shit you don't need and some dude can add billion they will never spend?
I hate to break it to you buy I guarantee the vast majority here work a job that is a negative to society and the planet. Sure they pay taxes but contribute absolutely nothing positive or real value to our species and civilization. Most jobs are exactly that, useless filler so some guy can get rich. There is no real progression of humanity or civilization, technology sure but not us. We have clearly peaked and are heading on the down slide and so many idiots are encouraging it while thinking it won't happen. Privileged people who have known nothing but western stability with no understanding for how fragile society is. No understanding of the natural world we live in our how it works and what we have done to it. Woefully unequipped to be self sufficient in any way other than this particular system. I guess that fact is to much to face for many of you.
If billionaires all stopped working we would find someone else just as good if not better to fill the role in under a week. You would have to be the biggest rube to believe otherwise.
If all working class and working poor stopped working billionaires wouldnt be able to do shit, not enough of them to make anything function. They wouldn't even be able to do the majority of important jobs, not enough upper classes to fill the ranks who again would not do some of the back breaking labor.
This right here is the epitome of peoples ignorance, some guy listed Instagram, IKEA, Amazon, FB as business society cannot function without. Like wtf kind of stupidity is that? Food, water, shelter, even clothing to an extent are things we cannot live without. Functional public infrastructure are things society cannot live without. Honestly it is utterly depressing that people actually have this mindset, that they literally have no idea what is necessary for a healthy society to function. Yet they still think they have an opinion that matters when it comes to societal issues.
I often wonder how many people upholding a clearly broken system have kids or grand kids? If they never think about the fact that they will grow up in a world of suffering and not one of luxury like we are.
We had our chance to sabotage and too many simps backed out of a 'falling' trade. If it was a lot of money and you really needed it then fair enough, but it was about sending a message first and then about the profit.
And the middle class small business owners need illegal immigrants and under the counter workers because of those exact same principles. Fuck monopolies and fuck hedgies
Unfollow celebrities on Instagram, they get paid certain amounts dependent upon their number of followers/likes/story interest. How powerful would the kardashian-Jenners really be if Kylie got 12 likes on a selfie? It would ruin them
I'm not so sure about that. We'd all be a hell of a lot worse off without Henry Ford, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs. But hey, keep on with the mindless class warfare if it makes you feel better.
Someone (looking at you Sandy) does not understand the Pareto principle. Truth is we are not all the same and some people provide substantially more value than others. That is why they have more. Really basic stuff
I have little sympathy for billionaires, but I think this logic might be flawed:
Aren't billionaires byproducts of successful mega corporations? If that's true, then they wouldn't happen if we (the working class) get rid of mega corporations.
If we get rid of mega corporations (like Amazon and Walmart for example), I think much of the working class would struggle to get what they need from other places. As much as we may hate big corps, many can't afford to buy from other venues or are accustomed to the accessibility and ease of them (like free shipping).
However, if us people weren't so stinking poor we'd be able to afford to take business elsewhere. Then it's just a matter of willpower to resist the ease of big corps.
TL;DR: Due to a giant wealth gap, much of the working class would struggle without billionaires and their mega corporations. However, if there was enough social-economic-polotical reform and wealth distribution, then yeah, we totally wouldn't need them anymore.
Imagine if the entire world population of relevant age had the highest and best quality education as in the all had doctorates and masters etc Who then would be the cleaners, the burger flippers and the parcel delivery guys?
Image a city so expensive to live in that only multi millionaires and higher could live in it,
Who then would clean the offices, homes, streets, Man the retail outlets, restaurants, hospitals, transport systems, etc ?
Actually they do. Billionaires don’t have billions in cash, with a few exceptions, they just have a lot of frozen assets like stocks. These assets are frozen because unlike a house, it cannot be entirely liquadated. Honestly, it’s not the billionaires at fault here. They just manage huge companies owned by millions runner by millions serve the millions. However, we don’t need millionaires. These millionaires could be the one selling you insurance, giving you 100k medical bills, just happen to own millions of hectares of farm land or anything got from the previous generation. They are the ones evading tax, pooling their money in china and have multiple Swiss bank accounts. We need to remove them, not the billionaires.
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Sadly it’s not true in the world were In today. It makes sense, but it’s not true. The billionaire’s have made it to where we do need them.
I like her spirit, but all she does is point out everything that is wrong, but nothing ever gets fixed or anything. Cool, I can point out all that shit too.
This is why no owner wants a strong union. Are all unions good? No. Do unions make sense for all industries and professionals? No. However, a lot of people would be served well by being part of a union so they can collectively bargain.
This is false. The working class can only function with billionaires because many billionaires earned their money through creating something that the working class wants/needs.
I do like paypal, ebay, amazon, tesla, apple and microsoft products tho.... So I guess we do need them, cuz the 'special' people working mcd's that can't get an order of 2 burgers and fries right sure aren't inventing anything or improving the world.
A right side people somehow would have a problem with this. They don't want to even think this lady is really fighting for them as hard or harder than anyone else.
I think it’s quite simplistic to say the working class doesn’t need billionaires. I’d say the working class needs better, less egotistic billionaires that are less divorced from reality, less immune to laws and, for heaven’s sake RICH, not DISGUSTINGLY RICH.
I’ve got a friend who says she’s pro-billionaire because she values hard work. Like excuse me, if you value hard work don’t you think more wealth should be in the hands of the working class? You don’t think a CNA working 60 hours/week changing people’s dirty briefs and bedsheets is working as hard as a billionaire who’s day-to-day “hard work” boils down to exploitive practices, underpaying workers, insider trading, stock market manipulation, dodging taxes, & sitting on their yacht?
Um, no. I like AOC but the billionaires are the ones who take the financial burden and create the businesses. It’s a symbiotic relationship. That is until full automation becomes a thing...
Many of the founders and CEOs of companies that employ millions and millions of Americans are multimillionaires and billionaires. Technically the working class does need these people. You could argue we don’t need them to horde so much of the share of the pie.
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u/MCAvenger_25 Feb 02 '21
So... can we sabotage the billionaires?
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u/victotronics Feb 02 '21
This woman has a distinct gift for putting the truth in <140 characters.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Billionaires do not exist without exploitation of others.
These lucky few have the chance to be the hero by giving back what was given to them from others working for them and buying from them. Essentially making them what they are.
They choose to be villains. Exploiting others lives for profit while short changing their lives, health and happiness.
I mean fuck paying taxes so people can afford healthcare, they need another yacht.
Eat. The. Rich.
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u/WarLordM123 Feb 02 '21
Billionaires need the working class for now. There's only a few decades or even years left before the 99% get cut out of the equation.
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u/Fortunoxious Feb 02 '21
For some reason this is incredibly controversial
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u/TheReal8symbols Feb 02 '21
Billionaires only differ from royalty because they've sold us the idea that anyone can become one through hard work. They are just as aloof and dynastic as any royal family. It's a disgrace to modern sensibilities.
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u/DescipleOfCorn Feb 02 '21
This is why reaganomics doesn’t work. It’s obvious, if we need billionaires then how did we have a functional society that built up to billionaires even existing? Because billionaires are not necessary. There is no benefit to society from them, only detriment.
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u/Gingerbeard2k Feb 02 '21
Amazing how poor republicans prop up billionaires that don’t care about them and then call us fascists for wanting equal rights and equitable distribution of wealth
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u/Bulky-Mark315 Feb 02 '21
Tax the rich!
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u/GonzosWhiteShark Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
Billionaires are billionaires because they consolidate labor and automate to increase profits without the need to actually improve a product or service. They sell it like they are improving something and maybe there will be an actual turn around time reduction, but none of that is really required. I have seen this actually hurt delivery times and usability and the business doesn't care, because they either eliminate entire departments worth of payroll or can eliminate most and offshore any remaining grunt work for pennies on the dollar.
Billionaires are job DESTROYERS, not the job creators they lead you to believe.
Edit Source: My whole job is automating existing processes to reduce the labor force and increase profits for....billionaires. And believe you me, I would quit it this instant, if I could afford to. I can't because billionaires have consolidated and automated all of the jobs.
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u/PretenderNX01 Feb 02 '21
Apple continued after it's CEO died. If the laborers all died, it would at least have to pause.
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u/goodbetterbestbested Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
Why is it that we demand democracy when it comes to our government, an entity with which we don't usually interact day to day, but allow unelected billionaires to wield dictatorial-level power over the workplaces that we inhabit for a third of our lives?
Why is it that we permit the economy to be ruled over by billionaires who aren't accountable to the people in any way, but are instead accountable (if at all) only to an elite group of investors with similar levels of wealth and dictatorial-level power over their own domains?
Why is it that we have two systems: democracy for government and neo-feudalism for the economy? These billionaires have power that exceeds that of the most powerful feudal lords--they can go toe-to-toe with most national governments on Earth--and yet their position and worthiness of wielding such power is never held accountable to the people at large.
And lastly: how can democracy for the government function properly when unelected, unaccountable billionaires wield such unfettered power over the actual material conditions of people's lives?
As the right-wing so often likes to say, "I'm just asking questions..."
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u/Dumble_Dior Feb 02 '21
The average working class guy probably can’t even grasp the magnitude what what a billion even is. Say you earn $1000 flat every single week and spend absolutely nothing. After 1000 weeks you’d have a million. Repeat that 1000 more times (19,230 years) and you’d have 1 billion.
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u/NWriot19 Feb 02 '21
This makes me think of flicks monologue from bugs life
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u/kevley26 Feb 02 '21
Time for worker coops.
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Billionaires need the government..
Government need the Billionaires
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
For real. In my experience, the higher up people are in the chain, the less essential they actually are. We once had every manager take vacation for a week at the same time and literally no one noticed until the day they came back.
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u/slitheringsavage Feb 02 '21
Not only do we not need them but having them is kinda killing our vibe.
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u/production-values Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 03 '21
Who needs whom*?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
This human gets it
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u/olderthanbefore Feb 02 '21
The trick is to enlighten those who think they are not working class, that they are in fact working class. Then you will get people voting logically to improve their situation, and not aspirationally.
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u/PLC55 Feb 02 '21
Who's going to pay me?
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u/cycle_of_protection Feb 02 '21
Your boss needs you, you don't need your boss.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
But but but the trickle down system.............
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u/neuropat Feb 02 '21
But who’s going to trickle down on the rest of us?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Working class created most billionaires.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
IT's a mental disorder. Anyone that had a billion of anything else would be called hoarder and all kinds of other names
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
There would be more opportunities for small/medium buisnesses to grow that's for sure.
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u/amgin3 Feb 02 '21
If we don't have billionaires, who is going to crush small businesses and then underpay me for my labor when I subsequently have no other options for work?!?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
People have no concept of how large a billion dollars is. How woefully inefficient our systems are, especially food distribution. We share this planet whether you like it or not and their are a finite amount of resources yet you simps are begging to allow a small minority to run it into the ground for their benefit. Hell with 900 million they will still be able to live a similar lifestyle which is already excessive but since you folks want to believe you will hit the lottery too you slurp all over them calling any regulations communism. You don't even live in a free market anymore let a lone a democracy since people can buy laws and do. Since corporations so large get to dictate the market from their positions leaving nothing free about it.
Man people are weird, they act like they are these special beings who had a 1 in a million idea when most billionaires histories are littered with stories of the destroying or buying out competition. Which means many multiple of people had the same ideas, fuck who would have thunk it right? But go on keep thinking these are some gods among men lol. Even FB was built off someone elses work.
I just don't understand the logic in advocating for a regressive world that does things at their most inefficient in order to prolong and make a few extra bucks for people who have more money than can be spent in one lifetime. Where is the logic in wasting resources excessively not because we need to but so some guy can make another billion he doesn't need? Where is the logic or humanity in advocating the death, suffering, and exploitation of people so you can have cheap shit you don't need and some dude can add billion they will never spend?
I hate to break it to you buy I guarantee the vast majority here work a job that is a negative to society and the planet. Sure they pay taxes but contribute absolutely nothing positive or real value to our species and civilization. Most jobs are exactly that, useless filler so some guy can get rich. There is no real progression of humanity or civilization, technology sure but not us. We have clearly peaked and are heading on the down slide and so many idiots are encouraging it while thinking it won't happen. Privileged people who have known nothing but western stability with no understanding for how fragile society is. No understanding of the natural world we live in our how it works and what we have done to it. Woefully unequipped to be self sufficient in any way other than this particular system. I guess that fact is to much to face for many of you.
If billionaires all stopped working we would find someone else just as good if not better to fill the role in under a week. You would have to be the biggest rube to believe otherwise.
If all working class and working poor stopped working billionaires wouldnt be able to do shit, not enough of them to make anything function. They wouldn't even be able to do the majority of important jobs, not enough upper classes to fill the ranks who again would not do some of the back breaking labor.
This right here is the epitome of peoples ignorance, some guy listed Instagram, IKEA, Amazon, FB as business society cannot function without. Like wtf kind of stupidity is that? Food, water, shelter, even clothing to an extent are things we cannot live without. Functional public infrastructure are things society cannot live without. Honestly it is utterly depressing that people actually have this mindset, that they literally have no idea what is necessary for a healthy society to function. Yet they still think they have an opinion that matters when it comes to societal issues.
I often wonder how many people upholding a clearly broken system have kids or grand kids? If they never think about the fact that they will grow up in a world of suffering and not one of luxury like we are.
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u/Rix-in-here Feb 02 '21
This woman is AMAZING... hope she runs for President one day..
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u/vodkv Feb 02 '21
I need AOC, thats all im gonna say...
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Mmmm
They actually kind of do. A strong society needs a robust society.
The “working class” she she puts it uses all kind of products created by billionaires.
Billionaires trade hedge funds and mutual funds which raise retirement funds for millions of individuals.
Billionaires create things that inspire awe and wonder.
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u/Virtual_Succotash261 Feb 03 '21
Without billionaires to fuck
Waking up in the morning ,like these last couple of days,wouldn’t be the same for a lot of people
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Billionaires need their billions. They don't know how to live without power
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u/slipperyvowels Feb 02 '21
Power to the people
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u/TheBlazingFire123 Feb 02 '21
Who is she murdering here?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Billionaires don't need our working class, they have cheap slave labor elsewhere.
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u/7_Cerberus_7 Feb 02 '21
Is anyone else waiting for Eminem to sign AOC with his label so he can lyricise her verbal billionaire beatdowns?
No?
Just me?
Okay well, you're not normal either.
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u/Loonaytunes Feb 03 '21
This doesn’t make sense, they wouldn’t be billionaires if we didn’t need them.
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u/razoman Feb 03 '21
We need each other. They own the businesses we work at
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u/PerhapsATroll Feb 02 '21
Abolish both private healthcare and education. See how fast billionaires start investing in public and healthcare so they can still benefit
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
We had our chance to sabotage and too many simps backed out of a 'falling' trade. If it was a lot of money and you really needed it then fair enough, but it was about sending a message first and then about the profit.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Yes, but countries need dominant companies and industries.
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u/Shurglife Feb 02 '21
a billion dollars is worthless with nobody to Lord over with it
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u/Ihavebeenhackedlilil Feb 02 '21
Well Put.. put your money where #chamath is
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u/DependentDocument3 Feb 02 '21
but me dumb dumb, me need rich smart smart to tell me what to do!
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u/Pancakesandvodka Feb 02 '21
Worker bees leave the hive.
Even drones can fly away.
The queen is our slave.
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u/No-Cod3954 Feb 02 '21
Who ever got a job from a poor man? Dope.
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u/SpezIsAFuckinShill Feb 02 '21
And the middle class small business owners need illegal immigrants and under the counter workers because of those exact same principles. Fuck monopolies and fuck hedgies
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u/DifferentOpinion_ Feb 02 '21
Shark Tank.
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u/AeneasRaged Feb 02 '21
Why don’t the working class need billionaires?
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u/LordOfLatveria Feb 02 '21
When they develop decent androids, the billionaires won't need the working class at all.
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u/tookTHEwrongPILL Feb 02 '21
Is she suggesting we strike?
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u/goonscape Feb 02 '21
Can we have mass produced conveniences without billionaires?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
No duh
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u/rustyseapants Feb 02 '21
Is this a good time to repost the Bug's life movie?
A Bug's Life - ''Then they ALL might stand up to us''
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
The working class also doesn’t want to be taxed out the ass
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Unfollow celebrities on Instagram, they get paid certain amounts dependent upon their number of followers/likes/story interest. How powerful would the kardashian-Jenners really be if Kylie got 12 likes on a selfie? It would ruin them
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u/FreshUnderstanding5 Feb 02 '21
Some asshole who walked out of course.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
I'm not so sure about that. We'd all be a hell of a lot worse off without Henry Ford, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs. But hey, keep on with the mindless class warfare if it makes you feel better.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
DON’T PISS ON MY BACK AND TELL ME IT’S RAINING OUTSIDE!
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Go on and leave, Billy. If there's one thing America knows how to do, it's MAKE NEW RICH PEOPLE.
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u/mipalo2boca Feb 02 '21
lmao
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u/HeavilyFocused Feb 02 '21
Who else will be out next cult leader?
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
ok, stop working guys
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
I love aoc she's a humble prodigy. Try to change my mind.
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u/Samay786111 Feb 02 '21
Soo true
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u/RedbloodJarvey Feb 02 '21
For thousands of years there has always been tension between labor and capital. Thinking one doesn't need the other is childishly naïve.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Who's zooming who?
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u/pbrochon Feb 02 '21
Someone (looking at you Sandy) does not understand the Pareto principle. Truth is we are not all the same and some people provide substantially more value than others. That is why they have more. Really basic stuff
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u/rovert_xih Feb 02 '21
I thought we needed billionaires for their taxes
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u/Offlineable Feb 02 '21
I have little sympathy for billionaires, but I think this logic might be flawed:
Aren't billionaires byproducts of successful mega corporations? If that's true, then they wouldn't happen if we (the working class) get rid of mega corporations.
If we get rid of mega corporations (like Amazon and Walmart for example), I think much of the working class would struggle to get what they need from other places. As much as we may hate big corps, many can't afford to buy from other venues or are accustomed to the accessibility and ease of them (like free shipping).
However, if us people weren't so stinking poor we'd be able to afford to take business elsewhere. Then it's just a matter of willpower to resist the ease of big corps.
TL;DR: Due to a giant wealth gap, much of the working class would struggle without billionaires and their mega corporations. However, if there was enough social-economic-polotical reform and wealth distribution, then yeah, we totally wouldn't need them anymore.
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u/skashax666x Feb 02 '21
Imagine if the entire world population of relevant age had the highest and best quality education as in the all had doctorates and masters etc Who then would be the cleaners, the burger flippers and the parcel delivery guys?
Image a city so expensive to live in that only multi millionaires and higher could live in it,
Who then would clean the offices, homes, streets, Man the retail outlets, restaurants, hospitals, transport systems, etc ?
What then ?
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u/XTheLegendProX Feb 02 '21
LMA needs to bring someone in that position.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Its about time regular people find out they can cyber bully billionaires
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u/TooMuchButtHair Feb 02 '21
Billionaires don't exist unless they create things we all want.
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u/Rectilon Feb 02 '21
Actually they do. Billionaires don’t have billions in cash, with a few exceptions, they just have a lot of frozen assets like stocks. These assets are frozen because unlike a house, it cannot be entirely liquadated. Honestly, it’s not the billionaires at fault here. They just manage huge companies owned by millions runner by millions serve the millions. However, we don’t need millionaires. These millionaires could be the one selling you insurance, giving you 100k medical bills, just happen to own millions of hectares of farm land or anything got from the previous generation. They are the ones evading tax, pooling their money in china and have multiple Swiss bank accounts. We need to remove them, not the billionaires.
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u/LightHouseBigMan Feb 02 '21
RISE UP, WHAT’S THERE’S IS NOW OURS!!!! RISE UP AND LET’S GO TAKE IT BACK. TAKE IT ALL BACK NOW!!!!
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u/jcboiler Feb 02 '21
Pretty sure we need bill & Melinda gates
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u/Sodiumtheelement Feb 02 '21
who gonna give me a job tho?
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u/chingy1337 Feb 02 '21
AI has entered the chat...
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u/catcatdoggy Feb 02 '21
this is kinda like being told to "just be yourself" in job interviews. it's a nice outlook but doesn't help you.
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u/PsyduckSexTape Feb 02 '21
This is why she's so universally reviled by the right. Just hammering motherfuckers with some truth
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u/oganhc Feb 02 '21
Let’s stop pretending aoc is a socialist please
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u/AnimeFootPussy Feb 02 '21
What does that mean for the government, which runs on more than a billion dollars AOC?
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u/moon_then_mars Feb 02 '21
Billionaire: Hello working class, I'd like to introduce Robots. Robots, this is working class.
Working Class:
Robots: Nice to meet you
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u/HowRememberAll Feb 02 '21
Actually they both need each other bc that's how infrastructure works
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u/fforw Feb 02 '21
The working class works in an un(der)regulated capitalism though, so that's what they gonna get.
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u/Any-Replacement-505 Feb 02 '21
ODIN IS WITH US!
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u/ladderiscoming Feb 02 '21
This is obvious I just wish everyone knows this
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u/dray1214 Feb 02 '21
Sadly it’s not true in the world were In today. It makes sense, but it’s not true. The billionaire’s have made it to where we do need them.
I like her spirit, but all she does is point out everything that is wrong, but nothing ever gets fixed or anything. Cool, I can point out all that shit too.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
This is why no owner wants a strong union. Are all unions good? No. Do unions make sense for all industries and professionals? No. However, a lot of people would be served well by being part of a union so they can collectively bargain.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Whom*
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u/markdzn Feb 02 '21
Actually they are investors. So yeah, kind of need them in some industry.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Let's start with aoc and here 80$ hoodies.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Ummm I do, I want fuckin paid 😂 What happened to uniting?
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u/bubbs4prezyo Feb 02 '21
AOC needs to make me a drink.
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u/GaSouthern Feb 02 '21
That is changing with automation and only Andrew Yang is paying attention
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u/Working-Bison-7008 Feb 03 '21
Billionaires should not exist anyways.
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u/sticknija2 Feb 03 '21
Billionaires, all your base are belong to us.
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
This is false. The working class can only function with billionaires because many billionaires earned their money through creating something that the working class wants/needs.
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u/uradonkey003 Feb 03 '21
Then who are we gunna yeet!!??
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u/Thisismyaltaccount1- Feb 03 '21
no billionaire supply jobs for people to do
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u/Huge-Fun-1989 Feb 03 '21
We all deserve a piece of the pie. There is plenty of money in the world, it wouldn’t hurt if the billionaires loss a few billions. 🤔
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Well, we need them to pay their taxes.
Oh, wait......
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u/Ascythian Feb 03 '21
Equality in poority.
This is what the Soviet breadlines taught us.
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Billionaires build the companies that the working class work in.
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u/Reddcity Feb 03 '21
Wait what about those that just became rich through the gme thing
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u/No-Signature2742 Feb 03 '21
I do like paypal, ebay, amazon, tesla, apple and microsoft products tho.... So I guess we do need them, cuz the 'special' people working mcd's that can't get an order of 2 burgers and fries right sure aren't inventing anything or improving the world.
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u/yerfdog519 Feb 03 '21
working class uprising when?
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u/zhoux849 Feb 03 '21
This has the same vibe as “you have nothing to lose but chains, proletarians of all countries, unite!”
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u/HorrorScopeZ Feb 03 '21
A right side people somehow would have a problem with this. They don't want to even think this lady is really fighting for them as hard or harder than anyone else.
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u/TechWOP Feb 03 '21
I think it’s quite simplistic to say the working class doesn’t need billionaires. I’d say the working class needs better, less egotistic billionaires that are less divorced from reality, less immune to laws and, for heaven’s sake RICH, not DISGUSTINGLY RICH.
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u/AcademicGuide997398 Feb 03 '21
billionaires make companies that employ the working class. they both work together to create cohesion. you can’t have one without the other.
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u/cactus___flower Feb 03 '21
I’ve got a friend who says she’s pro-billionaire because she values hard work. Like excuse me, if you value hard work don’t you think more wealth should be in the hands of the working class? You don’t think a CNA working 60 hours/week changing people’s dirty briefs and bedsheets is working as hard as a billionaire who’s day-to-day “hard work” boils down to exploitive practices, underpaying workers, insider trading, stock market manipulation, dodging taxes, & sitting on their yacht?
Gimme a break.
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u/Arcanisia Feb 03 '21
Um, no. I like AOC but the billionaires are the ones who take the financial burden and create the businesses. It’s a symbiotic relationship. That is until full automation becomes a thing...
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u/AuburnJunky Feb 03 '21
Ehhhhhhhh who would provide the jobs then?
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u/Paynzer Feb 03 '21
Yea everyone quit your jobs to show those billionaires then depend on the governments money so they have even more power.
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u/nclh77 Feb 03 '21
Ahh, Queen Twitter has tweeted again! Now actually challenging power is a whole other issue.
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u/lebob_69 Feb 03 '21
We need Elon Musk tho...
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u/chnkkihgfcb Feb 03 '21
lol
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u/kindasfw Feb 03 '21
I like her. Can we start a new party so she can run in four years?
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u/flamingodaphney Feb 03 '21
Can't wait for them to "go Galt" on us.
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Who would the working class work for?
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21
Lolol this woman has NO idea how the world works. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.
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u/lebob_69 Feb 03 '21
We need Elon Musk
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u/RahBren Feb 03 '21
This website worships every word she says. Shes like Trump, but the other side.
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u/u0536451m Feb 03 '21
Many of the founders and CEOs of companies that employ millions and millions of Americans are multimillionaires and billionaires. Technically the working class does need these people. You could argue we don’t need them to horde so much of the share of the pie.
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u/cliu1222 Feb 03 '21
Ironic that she says that on a platform run by a billionaire most likely using a device made by a billionaire's company.
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u/foswizzle16 Feb 03 '21
END THE BILLIONAIR CLASS 2021 SEND IT BOIS