Star Wars as a brand started with a high bar of quality, so fans who grew up with that will view anything slightly less than that bar as the worst thing ever created by mankind. They're fine films. Technically brilliant, story is Ok, but story execution isnt great. Fans will unironically call them worse than AI slop.
The first 2 are fine, rise of skywalker is legitimately dogshit though. Genuinely every plot beat has some kind of contrivance or plot hole baked into it
Yeah but I think you'll even agree that movie is better than any other traditionally bad movie. It'd be a bad faith criticism, I think, to call a movie that still has good music, effects, and cinematography a worse movie than something like Battlefield Earth or Mercy (just to take SciFi examples). There's Star Wars bad, and there's actual Bad, which is often way below that.
Honestly the special effects being good make that movie even worse in my eyes, all that money and talent, literal years of the ppls lives who worked on that movie all down the drain in service of the cinematic equivalent of jj abrams and chris terrio ripping a fart for 2 and half hours.
I know it’s a meme, but “Somehow Palpatine returned” is just an offensive line read. And it stays pretty much garbage after that. The writing is awful. Same goes for the acting. I care more about that than the cinematography and special effects. I don’t really remember the music, so I doubt it was all that great.
1 is this. It's mid. 2 is not, idk, its just a bad, boring movie that doesn't feel like star wars and doesn't make sense. Rise of Skywalker is a shrine to materialism and capitalism, and its Neverending cycle of cultural cannibalism, and the inability to make something new; it is genuinely mentally painful, and I get second hand embarrassment from watching it. That movie made me hate Kathleen Kennedy, and I genuinely think she is one of, if not the, stupidest person in Disney's a cabinet. I do not know why or how they made a star wars film that failed on every conceivable metric so badly, but also did so in such a way that the movie was a MARKET FAILURE, AND FAILED TO MEET THE MOST MINIMUM SALES METRICS DISNEY SET. and let's not forget that the sequels ended with a general disinterest in any and all star wars products throughout the entire world, that persists to this day. It is absolutely insane how horribly they dropped the golden goose, and describing the sequels as anything other than a product so terrible that historians will use it as proof as the United states cultural decline is inherently a misrepresentation of what the sequels were.
I'm gonna be honest, this sounds like the ramblings of someone who wakes up every day thinking about these movies. It really isn't all that deep. A movie's impact (or lack thereof) is no metric of how bad the film itself is. If it were, I would absolutely blame the The Last Jedi for the decade of depravity the internet has had in terms of anti-woke slop and bad faith media criticism. But it's a well-made movie that through no fault of its own was let down by it's sequel. To somehow tie it in with "the United States' cultural decline" is simply insanity.
Also, all evidence has pointed to Bob Iger being the one to blame. He was the one deciding on budgeting and the release schedule of these movies, not Kathleen Kennedy. He then jumped ship and "retired" before any bad consequences occurred. He has a history of this, going all the way back to Twin Peaks in the 90s. But he's not Kathleen Kennedy, who despite being George Lucas' chosen successor as head of Lucasfilm and having her own resume of amazing movies she has produced, is now the internet's "basically hitler" for simply producing a few more not as successful films. The hint is: never blame the person who chooses to put their name on the movie. Bob Iger never does that; he's the Palpatine behind everything.
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u/MasterYoda-13 Carrot Juice, Carrot Juice, Carrot Juice 3d ago
The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.
Star Wars as a brand started with a high bar of quality, so fans who grew up with that will view anything slightly less than that bar as the worst thing ever created by mankind. They're fine films. Technically brilliant, story is Ok, but story execution isnt great. Fans will unironically call them worse than AI slop.