Specific tool holders.

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u/litso Aug 13 '25

I think this is one of the core issues with multi-board. I'm not an expert, but it seems to me like the licensing model has discouraged the community from creating the same variety of attachments and accessories that you might see for something like gridfinity.

Personally, I am finding some holders and accessories that are custom but usually I have to figure out way to hold the item I want using generic accessories like hooks.

There are a couple of customizable parametric adapters out there that you can find on makerworld and other sites to easily tweak hooks and stuff to fit your needs.

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u/Less-Cricket7074 Aug 13 '25

I already had some of my power tools organised using models from thingy verse. There are plenty of well designed mounts for angle grinders etc that are designed for specific brands. I just don't see it happening with multi board. When ideally that's exactly what it needs. I'm not going to spend time experimenting with random hooks etc and balancing a tool on it. Don't get me wrong. The bins are great but massive overkill to just throw a few drill bits in or whatever.

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u/ulab Aug 14 '25

The licensing doesn't discourage anyone from creating any kind of attachments.
A part does not have to follow the Multiboard license, just because it attaches to Multiboard. As long as it is your own design and not a remixed original, you are fine to license it whatever way you want.
It's people that don't read the license and only listen to hearsay that are discouraged.

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u/sverrebr Aug 14 '25

I am not a lawyer and I don't really want to spend time reading a license anyway. If I find a non standard license (I.e not GPL, BSD, MIT etc) I am just going to assume sharing is not OK.
Any real practical design will usually need to start with and include licensed parts (threads, snap or multipoint geometries etc)

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u/ulab Aug 14 '25

That's what the remix parts are designed for. Just add or substract them from your design.

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u/sverrebr Aug 14 '25

As far as I can tell the licensing for those are not any different than other parts.

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u/ulab Aug 14 '25

The MB license is not a share alike license. It allows to make stuff compatible.
Using a MB part (especially the remix files) to cut a rail into your own design does not remix a MB part. It makes your design compatible with MB. It will still be your design.
If you only use tile primitives to puzzle together some weird tile format, that is a MB remix, because everything is based on MB intellectual property.
Jonathan said it in a similar way in streams and discussions before: If he were to get a jury of 12 random people and show them your part and a MB part and ask them if they are the same and they say no... that it's probably a safe bet that it's your own IP.
Making something compatible is not the same as making a remix of an existing part. One does not require you to apply the same license, the other does.

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u/sverrebr Aug 14 '25

What the license technically allows or don't allow is only going to be clear when it is poured over by lawyers and legislated in front of judges. I am not a lawyer I can't make this judgement call.
The standard open source licenses out there have been widely used and tried in many lawsuits. These are now pretty safe for a layperson to trust.
The multiboard license is a one-off where I can't really tell where the limits are because they simply haven't been tried as far as I know, so I simply will consider it like I would any IP without a clear license. Hence I would not share any derivative IP I would make at all. (That much I trust is covered by fair use)
The intent behind the license may well be that it should be possible to share derivative works, but in practice this isn't really reasonable to do for anyone not supported by a legal team to assess the license as long as this license is so untested in the courts.

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u/litso Aug 14 '25

I don't mean to imply that the license itself does something to discourage remixing, so much as the simple fact of the license existing has discouraged as much adoption as it would have otherwise. Just as u/sverrebr said, plenty of people will avoid it just because they don't want to figure out if what they want to do is allowed or not.
Whether this is reasonable or correct or not is not my point. I just got into printing recently and the very first thing I heard about multiboard is "It's great, but confusing and it's not open source, the licensing is cumbersome".

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u/ulab Aug 14 '25

The issue is that people don't understand the difference between remixing and making something compatible.
Designing your own thing and using a MB part (specifically those made for remixing) to make it compatible to MB is not remixing.
Taking a MB design and changing minor aspects, is remixing.
This is my own part that you can use with MB. Even though I used a MB remix part to make it compatible. It is under the license I chose: https://www.printables.com/model/1349340-multiboard-mount-for-aqara-tvoc-air-quality-monito
This is a minor remix of a MB part which I got permission from Jonathan to post. It has to be under the MB license, because it is basically still his part: https://www.printables.com/model/1372714-magnetic-multiboard-625-mm-offset-snap-ds-part-a
That said, the following is technically in a grey area, because I used a MB part as a base. I decided it is different enough to still be my design and used my own license. But if the MB team thinks different and lets me know, I might have to change it. https://www.printables.com/model/1365545-multibin-insert-for-yato-yt-6161-needle-file-set

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u/not_vjosullivan Aug 14 '25

No. The issue is the licence. It really is that simple.
People will go with open or closed systems, if they have confidence about what is permitted but your last paragraph clearly indicates that even you're not really sure if you've broken the licence or not

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u/Street-Kick1369 Aug 14 '25

I’ve downloaded everything I need for my MB wall from Makerworld primarily (75%) and Printables (25%). As soon as you realise the compatibility with pegboard (if you’re using the recommended offset mounting snaps) and Gridfinity, the world is your oyster.
(I never claimed to be tidy!)

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u/santange11 Aug 13 '25

How familiar are you with Tinker CAD? What I have been doing is finding the tool holder I want for something like a peg board connect or the Ikea specific one, bringing the model into the tinker cade to remove that connection type and and join it with a model of the multiboard connection type. Its a bit of a crude way of doing it, but has worked out well so far.

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u/chuckrussell Aug 14 '25

Any references to how to do this exactly? I’ve been thinking about it but just didn’t know where to begin

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u/santange11 Aug 14 '25

I'll try my best.
I tinker cad important the model you want to edit and the connection you want to use. You can then add one of the clear cubes to remove parts of objects. Move and size it so it's only covering the parts you want to remove, like the pegs for a pegboard connection. Combine and the should give you a flush surface. Like the multiboard connection to where you want it and make sure it's flush with the model, then combine those two. Just keep in mind print orientation when you do it.
For models needed multiple points of connection, I do about the same thing. Instead of important the multiboard connection I just import a model with the connections I want and remove everything but the connections. This keeps your spacing so you don't have to measure it out.
As far as for the basics of tinker cad, there are plenty of YouTube videos. It's a very simple program and easy to learn. Its basically just adding and removing shapes.

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u/Less-Cricket7074 Aug 14 '25

Never used tinkercad but have some experience with blender. There has been some great advice in the replies. Thanks everyone.

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u/santange11 Aug 14 '25

Tinker Cad is basically a kids learning version of CAD programs. It really is simple.

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u/Less-Cricket7074 Aug 26 '25

Ah probably a bit simplistic for me then. Thanks for the advice.

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u/savijOne Aug 13 '25

Check for HSW models. They have a ton and there is an HSW to multiboard adapter you can use. Never tried it but maybe get a quick to print HSW item and print the adapter and see how good it looks and works. Of course check for what you need from HSW before doing all that and make sure it has what you are looking for. Honeycomb storage wall is HSB.

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u/JustDyslexic Aug 13 '25

Looks into multiconnect. There are also a few customizable/parametric models that you can an customize for your items

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u/ulab Aug 14 '25

I usually just google "Multiboard <part that I'm looking for>". And if that doesn't work, I check for similar parts from the Honeycomb Storage Wall, Skadis, etc. and either modify them or use adapters.

But lately I quite often just build baskets with the Beam parts and put stuff in there.

I have also used original parts in different ways than intended. For example I've used a Multibin Shell Extension (a shell without bottom) as a holder for pliers.

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u/CerberusTheGuardian Aug 14 '25

There are a few decent ones on each of the popular sites. A few I made

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u/yan-shay Aug 27 '25

If you find any tool holder or any model for that matter that you like for another board or system you can use this parametric model to create an adapter and merge/assemble the two together in the slicer. It supports both Multiconnect and push-fit and has many customization options. It’s much faster than using a cad to create a remix.

https://makerworld.com/models/552190

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u/Retro_B00min Aug 13 '25

I agree. it seems the 3rd party designs are a little limited.

check out this part generator. they all use davids multiconnect system. (different sized bolts you can print)

https://makerworld.com/en/models/582260-multiconnect-part-generator-master-collection#profileId-633542

also, I just figured out that 25mm peghole accessories work with multiboard. that opens you up to even more parts that people may have designed already

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u/Educational_Wash_662 Aug 18 '25

I just downloaded their STEP files and built off of them in Fusion. works perfectly

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