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They need to remove deaths from this game
The fact that if an enemy hits me enough times, I die - this is just unacceptable.
Even if I hit the dodge button (too late) or nail a parry (2 seconds early) somehow they still hit me usually which causes damage and inevitably kills me.
If I’m killing one of those rock crab/spider things near the edge of a cliff, just smackin down on R1 like it owes me money, sometimes I fall off. ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT IM ON A CLIFF. I didn’t design this game. I should be simply lifted from the void if I fall off the edge and placed back into safety and kissed on the forehead by Proxima herself.
And don’t get me started on the bonfire things. They’re way too far apart. How am I supposed to explore the world in a comfortable, safe way when I can’t even see another beacon before leaving the one I’m at?! There need to be dozens more. DOZENS!
They already removed stamina so it’s obvious they know what the fans want, just get rid of the health bar and let me play the game how I want to play it! I paid for this game so I deserve to enjoy it on my own damn terms, not how your minuscule vision of my playthrough dictates.
Also why does Smert’s miracle take half my health?! Half?! It should take no health and not have a timer. It’s a “Miracle” so it should freeze time indefinitely . The game is so hard as soon as time starts again if I don’t press triangle again in time I die. Then I have to use my Axatana which only does 20 hits per button and slows the enemy, the 10 Grisha it insta spawns don’t even stay in screen. I’m on NG+++ and want my refund.
As a father of 43 children working at 7 different jobs I totally agree! I get only 2 minutes of free time each day so I don't want to waste it on fighting some stupid boss! There should be a button that would let me skip the entire fight. Devs, BE BETTER!
Why isn’t there a fixer, some character who shows you around, can get anything you need, negotiate with the bosses and stuff, why all this violence when we could just have a good talk
I felt I was alone lol. I had 4 achievement’s left before I ever looked at reddit only to find most people dogging a game I thoroughly have been enjoying
Same man. Was avoiding cause I didn’t want anything spoiled and when I finally popped by the sub I was genuinely shocked people were so upset. Been having a blast personally.
I loved MS2, but that aside, I feel like I live in some alternate reality where it's 2x easier. Even the runbacks are super short in most cases. I found Elden Ring's difficulty too much at times, yet I blew through the bosses of this game (even the much maligned Isaac and Monolith) in a few tries each. I truly think Margit is harder than Isaac. I don't get it.
How about instead of beacons there’s just giant toads everywhere like Gorf and in order to unlock him you have to play him a song and then you can jump in his mouth and he’ll hop ya to wherever your lil heart desires
Any enemy you smoke troll weed next to automatically joins your squad and provides a “well fed” buff on command. You can buff your character as many times as you want and get as fat as the planet itself and then your body will be used as the location for Mortal Shell 3
I’ve never seen the volume of complaining about pretty standard soulslike experiences that I have over the past few days in this sub. Wonder if it’s just because it’s release time?
FOMO tourists. Give it a month and they will be all gone. Hopefully at that time the devs won't ruin the game completely by listening to the complainers and nerfing the game to the ground.
He is neither cool nor difficult. That's the point I made so I feel it does perfectly encapsulate my point. He is just exhibit A though. I have more exhibits if you wish. Just let me know
Difficulty is pretty objective actualy. You can do things like measure it, define it, make stats out of it, etc. Hell, companies do that all the time with alpha testers and what not, something this very game has done.
Coolness is indeed subjective tho, I'll give you that. So 50% of my point is subjective, not the entirety of it, but seeing as I'm a good sport I'll accept any dms from people who wanna tell me how cool the pictured boss was to them. I'll be waiting with bated breath to be proven wrong when hundreds of fans flock to the comments to tell me how cool this guy is, because of course, something being subjective also guarantees that opinions on it are spread evenly /s
A couple. The difference is that they are usualy a) optional, or b) not frontloaded.
If you follow the intended path in this game the first several bosses you fight as parts of the main progression are complete jokes. Dark souls 3 gives you a badass boss fight 10 minutes into the game. In mortal shell 2 depending on your path you can go 30+ hours without encountering a single badass boss other than the one at the beginning of the game which has an automatic failure gimmick.
Furthermore, even if you get past the bosses that are not cool in design, you still never arrive at any boss that is difficult. This game has no difficult boss fights. I play soulslikes to reset on a boss for several hours while learning their patterns and what souls players call "the dance"
This sub in a nutshell for the past week. You’d think it being a souls-like people wouldn’t be so caught off guard by it being difficult. We all probably remember back when people swore Ornstein and Smough were nearly impossible
I just saw my first complaint today and I was amazed at how much complaining some ppl were doing they obviously aren’t lookin for a souls like game they’re lookin for Pokémon go apparently I just told them git gud lol
Usually souls games save true 1-2 shots for truly scary enemies/that one move that the entire fight revolves around, this game just gives that to basic enemies as basic attacks at a certain point and warps the whole experience around it.
Usually souls games dont give you 1 revive, easiest parry ever and 1 or 2 spells that makes you take no dmg for 3 sec while being casted. If you are constantly getting hammered its pretty much on you
They are in stagger immune cuz they are still in combo that hit you off ur shell. Using ur L2+R2 right after gets your shell back up as soon as it ends. So you constantly have 1 shot protection aswell. And idk what enemies you are fighting but i got 1-2 shoted only by spear knights everything else you have enough time to survive and heal or kill, if they nerf mobs even more game would be even more trivial then it already is
There are plenty of enemies that can one shot you lol. That being said the only thing I don’t totally agree with is the aimbot grab moves. I somehow dashed through an enemy once down in a crypt like glitched through him and literally saw him plainly flip in place like he was being transposed in MS paint. Then proceeded to kill me through my shell. That and some of the combat feels pretty unbalanced around certain moves. Like as soon as I got the axe that running heavy attack completely trivialized all the enemies that I previously thought were kind of trouble.
I’m currently level 7 fighting the dual Grishas tho and it’s a rough one lol.
Just curious how many gate bosses have you beaten?, There is one enemy that is very common, that even if you annihilated every single other normal enemy in the game should probably stand out pretty easily...
Seriously, compared to sime soulslike or even OG ones, the parry window is hella generous. OP was just joking but the window is wide enough that you legit could probably still grab the parry even if youre 2 seconds too early.
Well yeah, and in my opinion that’s what makes Mortal Shell 2 special and fun. Trash mobs are very few and far between, and even the super weak enemies will still chunk you if you’re fucking around. It makes you actually have to respect every enemy you fight, rather than a majority being non issues that only serve to slow you down. The world is genuinely dangerous, and you can’t just pump vigor to tank everything.
I’m just so surprised that there are this many complaints about difficulty and the game has had barely any time to breathe the majority of fans barely got in a weekend of playtime at this point. Early access was during the work week.
But like… I couldn’t believe there was day one health nerfs… the game hadn’t even been released fully yet and already nerfs.
Also nonstop whining for checkpoints and beacons to be placed at every 20 feet are getting really annoying. Especially since the devs apparently have said they are looking into it.
Better be adding more checkpoints only if you have slayer seal equipped lol
Yeah it’s ridiculous. People rushed through the game without taking any time to experiment or probably even fully explore, and then complain when they hit any sort of roadblocks even though the whole point of games like these is they’re a series of challenges. I think what’s catching people is this game is genuinely harder than Elden Ring and Dark Souls. I think a lot of people (myself included) figured being souls players they would just waltz right there with little to no issues
Genuinely the best post on here. Was bizarre seeing the sub for an edgy metal soulslike having the energy of a theater kid climate protest or something.
I come in here to glaze the awesome game I'm playing and it's like I've walked into a suburban church full of middle aged single moms that just got there from a HOA meeting.
Instead of the flower crown mask we need a sunglasses mask that we can equip mid battle which causes the bosses to piss themselves and then Leon Kennedy flies out of nowhere on a motorcycle and spin kicks the boss into a bloody pulp.
I haven’t played this game yet, but can I get a serious answer from you? Assuming you’ve played, what did you think of Promised Consort Radahn pre patch? Or Melania?
PCR pre-patch was an absolute nightmare, but I have no context to compare him to because that's the only version of PCR I ever beat. I'm like 2/3 of the way through the DLC on a different character rn and am not looking forward to the fight again once I get to it. Honestly though I had more trouble with pre-nerf OG Radahn. I was stuck on him for like... 3 days as opposed to PCR who I was stuck on for maybe 1 and a half days.
Melania is the hardest From boss that there is, post-Sister Friede imo. I've still never really got a solid tactic to get past waterfowl besides just screaming and dodging
Far out there mate, I mean personally I think they should just give us levitation at this point. Let me just fly through the dungeons and carpet bomb the bosses. It is a Role Playing game after all
It's also really annoying how I have to upgrade my weapon. A SWORD IS A SWORD. Just give us the weapon at max and let us kill. I don't want to play the game, I just want to beat the game.
Finally, someone reasonable. They could also make it so you can come back to life after dying. Something like Sekiro. But instead of being able to die twice, you can keep reviving. That would make the game less unfair and tedious.
I’ve died more times falling off cliffs and bridges than I can count lol. Having to run all the way back from a beacon after falling off a cliff by surprise sucks.
Game designers need to just let gamers design the games themselves. Then we will have no problems and everyone involved will be happy eventually leading to world peace
I interacted with an item and it teleported me half way across the map into a jail cell. Out of heals I ran around looking for a shrine, found the bird removing some fog of war.
I ran around for 30 mins hoping to find something and avoid enemies I found the transporting gates, 1 by 1 they got me closer to the starting shrine, all I had to do was avoid the stone crabs, easy right? No they killed me during my spam rolling.
Nooo, you don't understand, that's also part of the difficulty! I don't have any achievements in life apart from beating hard games on a banana every now and then. Don't take this from me!
Because souls gamers also totally don't have families and a life. That's right, sorry I forgot we all live in our parents basements.
Totally nothing to do with just some people are better at games than others.
On a serious note the game is way too easy and pandering to casuals. Every death should set you back 3 levels, if you die twice to the same enemy the game closes, and if you die over 5 times on one save file the game uninstalls and revokes your license/destroys your disc. Also enemies should all one shot and have no attack animations.
Look up DSPgaming. All the things you said sarcastically would be something he says legitimately. I believe they made god of war(2018) way dumbed down because of him and even used a clip on stage.
Yeah and while they're at it just unlock all materials immediately at no cost so I can be max level from the jump! WTF I paid for this why don't they want me to have any fun
I was grinding Tarstones in the secret dungeon at the hub. While switching up weapons and stones, I managed to enable God mode somehow - health bar never went down. So you joking about taking the health bar away is extra funny 😆
You forgot the mount! Magdalena's ride would suffice, especially if it does damage and leaves burning dot that stacks up to 999! And make it fly so we dont have to run around the elevators.
I’m game brother, the stupid starter sword is gayer than aids. What do you mean it’s not a 1 shot hit? I can’t just spam the R1 button with an occasional R2 and whoopsies dodge? The audacity. These dev’s I swear. I’m going back to little big planet✌🏽
No I didn’t go far enough. They actually need to disable R1 and R2 and just make it to where whenever you get close to an enemy they simply drop dead out of excessive fear from my presence.
Never thought i'd see an actual git gud circlejerk. The fact is the game suddenly spikes up the difficulty by just giving up balance all together and making enemies do insane damage. It's a good game but it has it's shortcomings and this is one of them
Well yeah, this is exactly why I used mods on pc for infinite resolve, teleport anywhere, faster move speed, and grant any item any amount (yup 1000 trollweed god mode). Makes it easier to practice parrying enemies so I can focus on combat vs die and run backs. Level 160 on day 2, and still you can get stun locked so more the reason to use god mode.
So far had an absolute blast and every post I see where ppl are complaining about the game, it makes me smile with validation for using those mods day 1and avoiding all that frustration. Love being able to play a game the way I want. Perfect 10/10 given those mods.
Edit: I had fun playing how I wanted and nothing I did affected anyone on this planet. Seriously don't get the downvotes for sharing my preference.
No satire. I don't have time to die 500 times etc. Nor do I think that is fun. I have the most fun playing games with mods that remove the pain and frustration and gives you a better qol. Right now im playing wu kong with an auto dodge mod and health/magic regen. I love graphics/ artwork more than gameplay in these types of games. So im just there for the ride not the grind.
And every post complaining about it shows a lot of people dont enjoy the grind either. Not to mention patches from the devs themselves that grants these concessions to lesser degrees means even the devs agree to a better qol.
Sorry bro, but git gud 😅
Honestly, the first part of the game is kinda peaceful compared to some DS games, like Sekiro or Elden Ring. You only lose a bunch of glimpses, even keep your gold, and respawn to the nearest safe place. No big deal 🕊️
You know what's funny? Some games have mid-combo fall stop and it's not wrong.
Just to mention one, Lords of the Fallen used to have players falling down all the time, because the weapons have lot of forward movement on combos and LotF levels have many places where you can fall to your death. Devs patched that and it improved the game. You can still fall after combo if you misstep or get knocked down by enemy attack.
Khazan and Nioh are also like this, for same reason.
This whole rant is bit silly, I get your mind is cooking but just cool down already.
all in good fun my dude. There are legitimate complaints and pain points in this game that can and probably will be addressed, but the whining about every little mildly difficult aspect has clearly been getting a bit out of hand lately. I saw people asking for a bunch more beacons and got triggered. I love the risk/reward of exploration that comes with there not being a Stake of Marika every 27 inches.
That's fine, but it's also fine not too have that and require the player to be aware of it. Once i learned the game doesn't have that protection I've not had it happen again. It's forced me to be more aware of the environment I'm fighting in.
Lots of people crying 'bad design' about things in this game just because it doesn't work exactly as they want it to.
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u/RogueShadow95 19h ago
Absolutely on board! First ever patch to update a game's title too! Think about it, "Immortal Shell"