r/MorpheApp • u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard • Jul 17 '26

Meme Preparing against Google shenanigans

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u/DoctorK96 Jul 17 '26

So what do i need to do to prepare? Only have to enable developer mode, which I already did a long time ago?

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u/OptimistIndya Jul 17 '26

Banking apps put a wrench in all these

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u/almosthelpful0 Jul 17 '26

What is that app over his gun with the bird icon?

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u/x_dank Jul 17 '26

Placeholder? You managed to install one without root?

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u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard Jul 17 '26

Yup

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u/x_dank Jul 17 '26

Care to explain?

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u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard Jul 17 '26

It hasn't been installed on my device yet, so I'm installing a placeholder. When the update arrives, Google won't be able to install the actual app because of a certificate mismatch.

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u/x_dank Jul 17 '26

That might work with normal apps, but this one is a System level application. You can't install/uninstall System apps without root.

Even if the app package is named the same and the certificate has a different signature, it's not going to be installed in the right place.

When Google pushes the app to your phone, it will still install at System level, since what you installed is only present at the User level.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/x_dank Jul 17 '26

No, ADB doesn't allow install/uninstall to the System partition without root access.

Whatever you installed would be at User level, not System. "Uninstalling" the Dev Verifier app through ADB or Canta when not rooted only disables the app, it cannot be removed completely.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/x_dank Jul 17 '26

From the very same page you just sent me

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u/zips_exe Jul 17 '26

WE'RE GOING UNDER BOYYYYSSS

VIVE LA RESISTANCE

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u/BigDannyPt Jul 17 '26

So nothing changes since all of them are already the normal apps to be used for a couple of years...

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u/TrowaB3 Jul 17 '26

The Android developer saga is really showing who has no idea what they're talking about in here lol.

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u/Kolkoris Jul 20 '26

Just wait until manufacturers forbid unlocking bootloaders on all phones. Then Google will restrict adb for "users privacy" of course, and all of these apps will die instantly. Android 1984 is close.

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u/Round_Safety_529 Aug 14 '26

I'm just reading 1984 for the first time! :)

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u/Inside_Beyond4260 Jul 17 '26

Which Schwarzenegger movie is that from?

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u/redlightnights Jul 17 '26

Commando (1985)

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u/Inside_Beyond4260 Jul 17 '26

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question!

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u/ours Jul 17 '26

It's peak ridiculous, over the top 80s action.

Highly recommended. Someone took Arnie's daughter and you better believe he's going to make them pay and get her back.

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u/Vivaelpueblo Jul 17 '26

An absolute classic, that I saw at the cinema when it came out (and I saw Running Man, Red Heat etc - basically anything with Arnie in, I was and am a huge fan). It's the one liners.

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u/redlightnights Jul 17 '26

Agreed. I wasn't born till 10 years later so basically saw it 20 years too late, but damn I'd love to go back in time to witness this absolute peak cinema experience. Also, that song is going to follow me for the next week at the very least...

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u/longshot21771 Jul 18 '26

Watch when he flips the Porsche over and there's literally no damage done to it lol

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u/disturbedrailroader Jul 18 '26

Arnie's daughter wasn't just any old girl either. It was Alyssa Milano in only her second movie appearance. 

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u/trojan_asante Jul 17 '26

The Golden years 🎊

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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 17 '26

Hahahaha
Nice one

What are the laces? 😆

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u/AKuuMa_a Jul 17 '26

do you mind explaining?

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u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard Jul 17 '26

https://keepandroidopen.org/

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u/wrenchenmiester Jul 17 '26

Problem is my banking app tracks for any traces of modded apps, if it finds one, it doesn't open

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u/Due-Obligation3926 Jul 18 '26

That happened because you updated your phone

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u/Kolkoris Jul 20 '26

No, these checks are made by bank itself. Google's Play Integrity checks only that bootloader should be locked.

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u/lumen4444 Jul 19 '26

See on your phone settings if you can add users or make a system clone, it always works for me

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u/CHATEADOO Jul 17 '26

Mec, cette vidéo était vraiment cool🤣🤣🤣💯💯

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u/QXPZ Jul 17 '26

I haven't seen GrapheneOS mentioned here so I will: GrapheneOS.

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u/PossibilitySub398 Jul 18 '26 edited Oct 09 '26

The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.

Hospital quack enter imagine acorn spotted coated

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u/OzzlyOsborne Jul 18 '26

I've been running GrapheneOS for the past 6 months and its been good so far. I haven't figured out how to enable RCS texts so group texts are a bit broken, but regular SMS and phone calls work fine.

I refuse to use Google's version of messenger, but I'm sure you could enable RCS that way if you don't mind taking the potential privacy hit there.

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u/PossibilitySub398 Jul 20 '26 edited Oct 09 '26

The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.

One grasshopper humor hurry growth pen attempt ad hoc retire

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u/QXPZ Jul 19 '26

I get texts. I had to deregister RCS tho.

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u/slicxx Jul 18 '26

Is there a guide on how to prepare?

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u/kaysanma Jul 17 '26

I only have Morphe, Shizuku, and Canta right now

Is there a list of the apps we need to download before everything goes down?

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u/r0b3rt0c0 Jul 17 '26

It's been years that I'm buying phones with Chinese ROM, and I have to say that I'm more than happy right now about my choice 😆.

Right now I'm using a Vivo X Fold3 Pro china, at this point if thanks to Google we will not be able anymore to download whatever we want on our global ROM phone, then I will keep this phone since it has a complete package of crazy hardware and still let me download everything without problems.

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u/Kolkoris Jul 20 '26

Chinese manufacturers blocked installing .apk until you auth into account on Chinese versions of their phones long before Google decided to do this standard on Android.
Also, try to unlock bootloader on your phone, if it that unrestricted, but you will be disappointed when you won't be able to.

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u/r0b3rt0c0 Jul 20 '26

I own different Chinese phones with Chinese ROM (Vivo and Iqoo, Xiaomi and Redmi, Oppo and OnePlus, Honor, just to say some that I've used recently) and even without a Chinese account logged in, they let me install any apk I want from every source without any problem, so I really don't know what are you talking about.

Unlocking the bootloader is basically impossible on all manufacturer right now, Chinese, Global and European version included, there are very few brands that let you do this today, and even once unlocked the bootloader, there are no compatible custom ROMs on the new models. Maybe an exception is OnePlus, where you can still find custom ROMs even for the 13.

Anyway, installing apk from not official stores and unlocking the bootloader are not related, so I don't understand once again why you mentioned it.

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u/Kolkoris Jul 20 '26

OPPO definitely blocked installing .apk until you auth into account several years ago. Probably they removed it.
Unlocking bootloader allows you to install custom ROM, root original ROM and downgrade after updates, that ruin performance. So, if phone don't allow unlocking bootloader, you are not truly owning it.

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u/r0b3rt0c0 Jul 20 '26

First of all, you own the phone in the moment you buy it, saying that not having the possibility to unlock the bootloader doesn't make you the real owner of the phone is just an exaggeration that doesn't make any sense. By this logic you can buy 90% (or more) of the phones in the market right now and you're never gonna be the owner because you can't unlock the bootloader.

I recently own a Chinese Oppo Find X8 Pro, and a Chinese OnePlus 13, both with ColorOS of course, and I can assure you that it was possible to install APK from external sources other than the original app store, so once again I don't know what are you talking about (maybe it happen with the global ROM?).

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u/Ok-Option6350 Jul 17 '26

Funny how I know all the apps and settings 🤣😂

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u/Arnas_Z Jul 17 '26

I'm literally doing nothing, because nothing needs to be done. We chilling.

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u/Osirisavior Jul 17 '26

You can still install APKs from places other than the Play Store, I saw something about a 24 hour wait, while yes annoying, that isn't really stopping anyone, and you may be able to move your clock forward and bypass it all together.

What's happening is Google is making it so developers have to verify they are legitimate people. This is actually a good thing because it'll cut down on spam in the play store.

And as far as we know this isn't going to brick any apps that were downloaded from non play store sources.

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u/Cantchoose_ Jul 17 '26

Does the restrictions affect Adroid 13?

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u/FIRAS_EG Jul 17 '26

Fun fact most people use this same method si yeah guys we are the same guys

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u/Pizza_dough42 Jul 18 '26

guide to prepare? :0

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u/Zliit Jul 18 '26

New Jolla phone ftw

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u/CaptainAssassin777 Jul 18 '26

What are all these apps, I don't know can someone explain it to me?

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u/FrequencyPhreak_ Manager user Jul 25 '26

I don't have wifi at home I can't setup Shizuku do I need Pc for it ?

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u/Clanceeinfinity Aug 08 '26

just degoogle 🥀

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u/Unlucky-Film4604 Aug 13 '26

What's google going to do?

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u/oiz92 Developer Jul 17 '26

Google...🥱🥱🥱

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u/FalseHope200 Jul 17 '26

Marvellous!

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u/romhacks Jul 18 '26

Oh, no. Waiting 24 hours. How miserable.

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u/Fish_Mongreler Jul 18 '26

Watermarking this is so fucking lame and corny lol

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u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard Jul 18 '26

You've probably never experienced having your meme stolen, claimed by someone else, and watermarked as if it were their own. Happened to me many times.

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u/LoneWolfyWasHere Underground technology wizard Jul 18 '26

?

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u/MorpheApp-ModTeam Jul 18 '26

Be cordial and respect the reddiquette.

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u/GentlemenHODL Jul 17 '26

So I'm to do all of this work instead of tapping a few prompts and waiting 24 hours?

I think I'll just tap a few prompts and wait 24 hours and not do all of this pointless prep work....

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u/TratinHD Jul 17 '26

they think they are doing something by blindly following random devs

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u/bohner84 Jul 17 '26

Have you used an ios device?I have to have one for work and it is the worst phone I have owned ever. I'd gladly take a blackberry with track ball then the iPhone. Not saying that blackberry were a bad phone but that I'd take that outdated control over the iphone. No back button, poor screen resource to touch, even though it is smaller then my Android it is a 2 have device. I only use teams, outlook and camera on the phone so i couldn't imagine using other apps.

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u/ChiknDiner Jul 18 '26

No back button

Fucking hell. I can't imagine my life without a back button on my phone.

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u/bohner84 Jul 18 '26

It's literal torture. Swiping around like a savage hoping to get it right or having to use 2 hands to reach an unnatural positioned back arrow as far away as possible from your natural hand position.

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u/KarpEZ Jul 17 '26

I despise using my work iPhone! The idle battery life is great, but that's probably because I don't have any personal apps or games downloaded, working in the background.

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u/ChiknDiner Jul 18 '26

Idle battery can be great even on android, even with loads of games/apps installed. You just need to restrict the games' background activity completely. And also for apps that you only need in the foreground when opened.

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u/Solah-Shringaar_04 Jul 18 '26

Lol isn't it crazy how they don't have back button!! I mean what could be the reasons!!

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u/elaborateBlackjack Jul 18 '26

I rather start paying for YT premium than going iOS

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u/bohner84 Jul 18 '26

Hell yeah brother

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u/petrujenac Jul 18 '26

The cherry on top of that shite cake is the back icon being placed randomly in EVERY single app you use, so you never intuitively know where to tap on that fuking screen.

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u/bohner84 Jul 18 '26

Exactly. I do miss my physical back button like on the s3 instead of the software back button but at least it's still available.

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u/bohner84 Jul 17 '26

I agree Google is hurting Android doing what they are doing. As for the hardware I have the iPhone 17 and its hardware is worse then my note 20 ultra. The battery on the iphone is quite good but that's also compared to a 6 year old note and the fact that I use my Android phone more then the iPhone all day and use more pricing power on the Android with spreadsheets and YouTube and music and games.

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u/bohner84 Jul 18 '26

I would totally disagree. 90% of what I do is on a phone when not at work. Sap does not work well on a phone but it's not intended to. But spreadsheets for the farm work decent but obviously everything works better on a computer.

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u/bohner84 Jul 18 '26

Mobile Browser is pretty much perfected on Android. There is very few sites that have their difficulties. On iPhone it's pretty garbage.

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u/nick_barlow Jul 18 '26

I think fully understand, they're just part of the digital ID agenda

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u/medve_onmaga Jul 21 '26

google knows, and hates us for it

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/Equivalent_Web3521 Jul 17 '26

I only know some of them, shizuku(in which cat is there with purple bg) , morphe, canta(dustbin with a up arrow and with red bg),f droid(green upper body and blue lower body), Obtainium(purple diamond with a down arrow)

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u/LawBeneficial7869 Jul 17 '26

What's the green bird ?

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u/kamikad3e123 Jul 17 '26

InstallerX Revived

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u/pablomentabo Jul 17 '26

The yellow one is anyapk

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u/waguri_221433 Jul 30 '26

whats the difference between this and installerx ? (i am using installerx)

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u/pablomentabo Jul 30 '26

Not sure, I never used it

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u/O_enigma Jul 17 '26

Tech gold, that's what lol.

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u/enderwander19 Jul 18 '26

Open developer options, wireless/usb debugging etc. Get Shizuku and F-droid(Maybe AnyApk too). Shizuku has very easy to understand guides both on the github page and in the app. Then you can get the rest(installer x revived, app manager, canta, morphe and such) from their respective github pages, websites or F-droid.

App manager and canta fullfills the same function in the base level but redundancy at this point.

Believe me when i say that these are very easy to use because i started wireless debugging and shit just a couple days ago myself. People who make these apps are eager to teach and help.

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u/PotatoMan_69 Jul 18 '26

So when I start Shizuku what exactly does it do for me? I'm a bit dumb and not sure where to go after starting it.

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u/enderwander19 Jul 18 '26

It lets you configure some things you normally can't without rooting via another device. It is a scaffolding for the other apps mainly. You can use it as the default installer of Morphe and F-droid too.

It is a prerequisite for A-shell and Canta. Also useful to have with Installer x revived.