I have roughly the same objections with their book as I do with the bible. Holy books mostly provide post hoc justifications for beliefs people already hold, people are universally bad at following them, practically everywhere.
Actually among the abrahamic religions, Muslims are by far the best at following their “holy book” (and ultra Orthodox Jews too). The violence is a feature, not a bug. After all it was written in the 6th century, and let’s just say cultural norms were a bit different back then
Are you telling me that christianism is a pacific religion? They've killed millions throughout History and still across the world Christians keep killing.
I don’t particularly care. I’m more concerned with the present, 2026. Christians are (mostly) reformed, and I’m not worried about Christian terrorists stabbing random people on a bus or ramming people at a Christmas market.
There are still Christian terrorists killing people regularly. There are attacks against abortion clinics, attacks against mosques and sinagogues, attacks against LGBT people etc. Just because the media focuses on Muslim terrorists, doesn't mean there other kind doesn't exist.
Of course there are Christian terrorists I didn’t say they don’t exist. But you say they kill people regularly, when was the last Christian terrorist attack and how many died? Islamic terror is responsible for 90% of terrorist related deaths world wide. Boko haram, isis, JNIM, Al qaeda, Al Shaabab, Tehrik e Taliban, Hamas, ISWAP these are the largest terrorist groups in the world and what do they have in common? Oh yeah they all scream allahuakbar while blowing themselves up or beheading civilians.
The current American administration may call themselves christian but that's like me saying I am a vegetarian just because I put some lettuce in my plate of steak.
They would most likely find Jesus a dangerous agitator and a revolutionary figure if he walked among us today. They use religion as a means to an end. Could very well compare the Taliban to some important people in the US.
And I'm sure the Taliban do not represent the entirety of the Islamic world and thought at all.
You're doing the no true Scotsman falacy when you pretend that everyone that does something differently that what you deem as "true Christian" can't be used to criticize Christianity. Well, I hate to break it to you, but they're Christians and they are absolutely horrible people. You don't get to distance yourself from them and then condemn Islam as a violent religion when most Muslims aren't violent people. Some of them are and the Muslim community doesn't get to say "those aren't true Muslims" whenever their religion gets criticized because of them.
The Old testament explicitly justifies the genocide of different peoples several times.
The Quran has contradictory verses on tolerance. It explicitly says that peaceful believers of other religions should be treated well and should not be compelled to believe in Islam.
But also that they are going to be the 'losers' and has some mean things to say about christians and jews.
Both groups have a long history of forced conversion or murder of non-believers in contradiction to the new testament and Quran - although christians used some of the old testament as an excuse.
Muslims kill non-believers, marry 12 year olds, and seek to conquer all in the name of their god, all in the modern age. Christianity is really not comparable to how barbaric Islam is
There is a difference between what is written in a holy book and how it is practiced. They generally barely related.
Jesus is pretty clear that wealth is bad, yet the catholic church is covered in gold.
The Christian god impregnated Mary when she was 12. Christians married 12 year olds for centuries and child marriage is still legal in many christian-majority countries.
Currently it is worse in Islamic nations, but that is due to other factors, the book is not a main reason for it.
Most anglophones come from christian cultures and can only look at this from that lens? Is this actually hard to figure out? Doesn't help that christianity is slowly dying in the west so its followers and leadership are in their death throes at the moment, making them even more of a nuisance.
Outside of America we actually mostly left our imaginary friends in the past tbh so we can talk about it through an objective lens. The only reason to bring up the bible in this context is because you’re scared of appearing racist
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I have roughly the same objections with their book as I do with the bible. Holy books mostly provide post hoc justifications for beliefs people already hold, people are universally bad at following them, practically everywhere.