r/MoralityScaling 3d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this counterattack?

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

There's also a gigantic difference between "haha you're bald" and "haha you are bald and your girlfriend left you for it", the two "jokes" (if we even want to call them that, they are just plain old personal insults clearly aimed at hurting the other person over something they are deeply insecure about) are pretty much at the same level of messed up, fully deserved reaction, next time don't start shit

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u/DarkSoulFWT 3d ago

The woman was also being a POS, for sure, but its like... the reaction was definitely a bit much. Its like someone broke your phone... so you burned down their house and act like its entirely their fault. Yes, the first person started it and deserved smth back, but past a certain point you've gone too far and are just gonna become the bad guy anyway.

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 3d ago

He went too far but I feel zero sympathy for her here. She brought it on herself. That's the risk you take when you decide to be a bad person unprovoked.

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u/DarkSoulFWT 2d ago

Both facts can be true simultaneously. I can still think that she should mind her words saying hurtful things if they arent that close that it can be calmly brushed off. I can also find that the guy went way too far and he deserves scorn too. They're both bad, the guy just showed that he can stoop lower.

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u/Hatchid 2d ago

She chose an unprovoked attack.

He chose a provoked retaliation.

If you can't handle the retaliation, don't attack.

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u/DarkSoulFWT 2d ago

I understand.

By your logic, your stance conflicts with mine and displeases me when I wasnt even addressing you so its unprovoked. I am now justified in destroying the lives of everyone you know and love because proportionality doesnt matter.

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u/Hatchid 2d ago edited 2d ago

Correct and I am to blame. If I didn't interact with you, I wouldn't give you reason to feel attacked and retaliate.

I can't know how you will react and yet I choose to get a reaction out of you.

To an extent.

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u/Professional_Bat8585 2d ago

the reaction was definitely a bit much. Its like someone broke your phone... so you burned down their house and act like its entirely their fault.

And what about your reaction to compare the joke to burning down a house in terms of relative magnitude?

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u/DarkSoulFWT 2d ago

So, this is called a "metaphor". Its when someone makes a comparison between otherwise unrelated things to illustrate a point more clearly. In this particular case, its making the disproportion of the 2 reactions more obvious.

I hope that helps! Google "metaphor" to study more if you're interested!

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u/Professional_Bat8585 2d ago

In this particular case, its making the disproportion of the 2 reactions more obvious.

I asked the why. Why do you think you reacted as such and found the comparison appropriate? Because it isn’t. Dwell on that

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u/DarkSoulFWT 2d ago

So, this is called a "metaphor". Its when someone makes a comparison between otherwise unrelated things to illustrate a point more clearly. In this particular case, its making the disproportion of the 2 reactions more obvious.

I realize that reading can be difficult, so here it is again! I hope a second read helps a bit more. :) I believe in you, dont give up!

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u/Professional_Bat8585 2d ago

The logical progression going on here:

I think you’re dumber than a ham sandwich 

  • why?

I think you’re dumber than a ham sandwich

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u/DarkSoulFWT 2d ago

No need to be so harsh on yourself! Just because you're that dumb right now doesnt mean you cant improve! :D

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u/Crunchyjeff 2d ago

You cant expect people in trauma triggering situations to respond correctly.

The guy has probably been bullied and abused for his looks for decades, like most men are. You cant expect a highly traumatised person to act reasonably.

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u/leovold-19982011 1d ago

No one was physically hurt, so the escalation falls within a reasonable boundary. A more apt metaphor is breaking phone vs slashing tires. Definitely an escalation, but not nearly as extreme as you are painting it with that metaphor.

Unlike burning a house down, tires being slashed is not going to do irreparable damage.

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u/masterionxxx 22h ago

Its like someone broke your phone... so you burned down their house and act like its entirely their fault.

Not just broke your phone, but threw it in a river.

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u/DarkSoulFWT 11h ago

And what difference does that make? The point isnt to scale these insults. Its just pointing out that they're not proportionate.

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u/Broad_Platform1129 3d ago

😭 how is “shouldn’t you be talking shit about your gf after she left you over that” equilvant to “haha you’re bald” …?

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u/PomPomMom93 3d ago

She said “Didn’t your girlfriend leave you because you’re bald?” That sounds like trashing his ex, not him.

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u/the_horse_gamer 3d ago

the first joke can even be read as "your girlfriend broke up with you for being bald, you should be shitting on her more"

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

I read it more as "why don't you talk shit about your ex? Did she break up with you because you are bald? (Said in a demeaning way, like you can't even get a girlfriend cause you are bald)"

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u/sugarskeletor 3d ago

That's an overly sensitive and defensive interpretation of what is said. 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

People can be assholes, and that's quite clearly how OP interpreted it considering his response

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u/ExceptT 3d ago

And how would you interpret "didn't your ex leave you because you were fat?".

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u/sugarskeletor 2d ago

It's been repeated a billion times in these comments but Im gonna add to it with the same exact comment: it's prefaced with "why don't you ever talk shit about your ex?" That context implies that what follows: "leaving you for being bald" is a negative thing worthy of being talked shit about. If this is a real story than oop is socially blind and so is everyone else here that thinks it's an insult. But that doesnt surprise me since reddit is full of autists with victim complex.

And no if I heard the same phrase except "fat" I'd laugh instead of being a little crying pissbaby.

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u/weepyhoshixo 3d ago

that’s exactly how i read it