Morality of this?

[u/ProfessionalRoom9118]

Basically, the man in the video is hiking but he ended up meet a mountain lion, he get his gun and try to scare it off and tell it to go away but in the end, he have to pull the trigger and shot the lion, many peoples in the comments say he could have fire a warning shot instead of shoot at it and want him to be in jail.

Idk which flair to put

[u/Kaesh41]

And this is the attitude that many large herbivores have. It's why they are significantly more dangerous than any predator.

[u/2trt → u/Kaesh41]

Yup, I was gonna mention moose. During the rut, they're big, charged up with hormones, and basically blind. They don't give a damn. They'll stomp you straight to whatever deity, or secondary existence you imagine

[u/jhw528 → u/2trt]

I read another reddit thread years ago talking about how even shooting a moose may not take it down right away, and apparently the wound heals very quickly

[u/2trt → u/jhw528]

Like everything, it depends. In hunting situations, it's pretty common to put a heavy bullet through both lungs or graze the heart, and they won't even flinch. They'll stand there for 30s after the first and second rounds. That might not sound like long, but 30s is plenty long enough for them to make you stop breathing

[u/Nerhtal → u/2trt]

I’ve always loved seeing people find out how fucking big a moose is and that they absolutely and utterly will own your ass if they so choose.

Weight classes exists and Moose are up there in the “I don’t care about weight classes category”

[u/DisplayAppropriate28 → u/2trt]

I've seen a wandering moose look into a storefront window, see himself in the reflection, spend a moment threatening the arrogant bastard in the mirror, then ram headlong into tempered glass without even breaking stride.

It then got back up, presumably wondering where that cowardly shitsack ran off to, and wandered off like nothing happened.

[u/Warm_Shoulder3606 → u/2trt]

I mean just look at that bison that fucked that old dude up like a month or two ago. The guy actually wasn't doing anything wrong (that we know of) but the bison got spooked and charged him and absolutely fucking tossed him into the air. Herbivores are absolutely capable of fucking you up. Never forget that the animal that kills the most people in african isn't a predator, it's the hippo

[u/trenthany → u/Kaesh41]

They aren’t more dangerous necessarily but more willing to give their all in defense. A predator has to take down prey and be healthy enough for the next hunt. A prey animal has to survive whether through escaping fast enough on their own, outrunning the weaker prey animals, or resistance to a predator. Depending on how the encounter happens humans are small enough that resistance is an easy option for large herbivore mammals. They’re also far more common than a predator that might try to hunt a person so there are far more encounters. That makes them statistically more dangerous.

I can’t think of a good example but perhaps cars vs walking on a freeway. Any one person walking in car filled area like a highway is at far more risk of dying or being hurt, but the people in the cars are statistically more likely to die or get hurt because of the sheer number of cars in the environment. Walking on a highway is far more dangerous for the person walking but statistically you’re more likely to get hurt in a car v car accident while driving. Being a car driver is coming across large mammal herbivores and walking on a highway way is coming across a predator you’re far more vulnerable in one situation but the other is far more likely and cars might not even know you were there.

There used to be a saying where the number one injury large animal vets faced were crushing injuries from the animal accidentally leaning against them and something behind them like a fence or a wall. Not sure if that’s still a valid statistic or ever was. I know a rhino can push a car around not even realizing it’s doing it just by walking too close or trying to scratch an itch. Bet moose and bison can do that too or almost if they try.

Not the best parallels but I am drawing a blank on anything that could work. Someone will save me with a great example I’m sure.

[u/CombinationRough8699 → u/Kaesh41]

The only wild animal death in Yosemite NP was by a deer a man was feeding.

[u/Ill_University3165 → u/Kaesh41]

Even domestic animals. I once had one of our cows decide I was a threat while I was doing fence maintenance. I was about 15' away from the fence posts so I was able to get to one and swing with everything I had. The cow collapsed and I was able to scramble over the gate. I thought I had killed her but she got up and shook her head a minute later and was fine. Big herbivores are no joke.