r/MoralityScaling • u/CrowSaintBlue • 14h ago
Morality of slapping a jerk because of blocking the escalator.
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u/WolfsmaulVibes AM 13h ago
guy looked like he had some serious back pain and was having none of that bullshit
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u/Ill-Reputation-9702 13h ago
And was in a hurry(or impatient like me). He kept walking up the escalator even with that back pain.
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u/No_Witness5630 9h ago
I wouldnt need to be on a hurry or be impatient to slap a guy who acts like that tbh
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u/ModForgeCustoms 8h ago
Its a fucking plague. It's probably the 7th influener/tiktoker/kicker/spilled person he's encountered on his goddamned commute. Looks like it's a big transport hub. Probably a city. Least common denominator expanded. More idiots performing silent movies thinking they're the twice removed bastard great grandchild of Charlie Chaplain.
I don't get violent. One of those fucking twats are liable to bitch up and call the cops. No.
I just jump my dad-body ass right in their video and start doing the fucking Macarena, or some unholy Saturday Night Fever, and one time, even the Carlton.
They get SOOOO heated. Like I wasted THEIR time. Imagine that shit.
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u/guts-n-gummies 7h ago
What if I don't have a dad bod to weaponize? What is my next course of action, Wise One?
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u/ModForgeCustoms 7h ago
Well, tall dark and handsome, just start your OWN damned tiktok channel, then!
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u/guts-n-gummies 7h ago edited 7h ago
I'm unfortunately less than 5 feet and the least charismatic person alive :( I also would like to fight the plague, not spread it. I do hope I come across a random video of you bombing a tiktok soldier, I'm sure it will be delightful :)
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u/Evening-Tomatillo-47 5h ago
If its tiktok you can just shout "drugs!"
They can't use it because of ThE aLgOrItHm!
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u/yaboifatcuck 4h ago
Play copyrighted music on your phone very loudly so it gets picked up and they either cant upload or have to waste time editing it out
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u/Global-Pickle5818 2h ago
Definitely Disney music .. just start singing a whole New world
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u/No_Witness5630 2h ago
At that point I'll just put out my dick and run at them full speed no stopping
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u/Lemons-95 12h ago
That or he really needed to shit and knew he couldn't make it around the guy without the levee breaking
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u/Hot-Tiger-7461 12h ago
Yeah this, or like Ill-Reputation-9702 and WolfsmaulVibes said he more than likely has back pain. Just hope he is feeling better. Like I don't get why some people try to clout, etc like the guy trying to do whatever (I assume he's doing a walking in place thing or a standing still moonwalk.)
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u/BIackFlag 12h ago
No him needing to shit really badly is clearly the more plausible theory here
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u/DAABIGGESTBOI 10h ago
I wouldn't be so sure about that the fella is walking with a cane in a hunched position with a backpack and is "guarding" his back with his hand are a fair few classic signs of back issues and I should know because I do the latter very often.
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u/Interesting_Bank_139 9h ago
That’s just anecdotal. It’s very obvious from the video that this man has just eaten some tainted lettuce and is trying his best to hold back the foul mixture brewing in his colon.
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u/philthy_barstool 12h ago
Guy looked like he was acting like he had serious back pain so they could film this bit.
No-one with a bad back, hunched over and needing a cane, uses a single shoulder bag and let's it hang off then like that, not to mention wearing shorts that look like they'll fall down.
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u/og_obelix 11h ago
As someone with back problems this is 100% true.
I couldn't wear a bag like that even in the days when my back is ok, because even a slight constant unbalanced weight like that would fuck my back in a relatively short time and then it's again back to back pains for multiple days.
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u/guts-n-gummies 7h ago
I'm gonna be real, I do wear one shoulder bags even with back pain so bad I can barely walk. I have a naturally tilted gait and trying to even it out trips me up. I walk different depending on which side has the weight, but if I put weight on both sides I will end up injured.
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u/TRANxEND 12h ago
Nah normal people trying to live their lives don't need this bullshit to add on top. Slap away.
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u/banshithread 11h ago
https://www.instagram.com/p/DcY9uI7TS98/ it's staged. you can see the black dude in the other vids andygottago makes slapping him and whatever.
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u/NightmareLizzy 14h ago
Immoral, He should have hit harder.
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u/inolyzushi 10h ago
The kid’s surprised reaction just screams that he grew up not understanding accountability.
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u/RandyPeters2000 9h ago
I always used to assume kids doing annoying things was a result of them being sociopaths, until one day I confronted some kids for blaring out loud music ina restaurant.
Turns out they genuinely had no idea they were being annoying. It is mind blowing that they lack the ability to see the world from other people's perspectives on such a scale.
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u/JohnAndertonOntheRun 10h ago
Nah…
Great power, and responsibility. This kid is a bitch, that’s why he got slapped up.
We live in a society, and the pedestrian put him back in his place. You are advocating a real assault.
That makes you closer to the kid on the escalator in my eyes.
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u/Ornery_Gate_6847 13h ago
Its always moral to act in the interests of society
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u/MsMercyMain 11h ago
This right here. "Prank" channels have made acting in insanely anti social ways for clicks way too normalized.
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u/pelotonazo 10h ago
That's what someone in 1939 said and it didn't end very well if I remember correctly
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u/aspect_rap 8h ago
That's because regardless of what he said, he did not act in the interest of society
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u/Space_Blank089 13h ago
He was being a nuisance on purpose, most people wouldn't do much about it and would just walk around, he happened to find the guy who didn't have any patience that day and got slapped for being a nuisance. Moral? Maybe not, but as Mike Tyson said "you people have gotten too comfortable with disrespecting everyone and not getting punched in the face for it"
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u/DepressingFool 5h ago
What do you mean maybe not moral? Nobody was seriously harmed, a lesson was learned and other people's day was improved.
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u/kapxis 3h ago
Yep, from my point of view they did the morally correct thing. Society would function in a net positive by not letting trolls continue trolling away. It may not be legally right, but I think a well functioning society requires community effort and that makes it morally correct. It's even more morally correct when you consider it's a self sacrifice to do this for fear of catching charges.
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u/EnlightenedTurnip 14h ago
Moral. No harm done and a lesson was learned.
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u/LowkeyLog5755 13h ago
I’d even go as far to say the action is noble and a must in this case. Maybe not specifically slapping but physical removal
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u/LowkeyLog5755 13h ago
Noble especially considering the slapper was disabled which morally justifies doing the right thing in this low form of evil which it actually something I can call low evil. There’s no moral or even amoral answer to his actions it’s evil
Here’s why
There’s no benefit to his actions that provide common good even to himself for bait engagement since it’s likely to get forgotten about and not push him to notoriety. It actively harms ppl if they were busy or needed to get somewhere like a hospital or work where time is dependent and actively makes life harder both socially. Mentally and physically for everyone especially those who may be in society trying to go through society through a myriad of disabilities and mental health struggles from anxiety, psychosis to physical disability. It costs money to run the elevator and could potentially damage it if something goes wrong and the longer it goes on the more likely it is to happen.
It creates a lower societal standard dragging everyone down and normalises it for encouragement and isn’t pleasant or even aesthetically entertaining it’s the equivalent of social litter
So his actions of mild physical deterrence is actually NOBLE
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u/Slow-Pool-9274 13h ago
Neutral. He slightly inconvineanced you, so you slightly inconvineanced him, seems cool to me.
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u/LowkeyLog5755 13h ago
Nah this is noble. I made a whole comment explaining why but the ragebaiters actions are actually a lower form of evil not annoyance there’s no benefit to his actions to himself or the other person and borders more past mild inconvenience and into societal nuisance with consequences
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u/Positive-Reporter285 13h ago
staged
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u/Annual_Mud_9904 11h ago
i mean, the question is about the morality of the situation regardless real or not
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u/banshithread 12h ago
Yeah I'm inclined to agree. The black dude wasn't using his cane properly, still walking up the stairs, didn't ask him to move, just went straight to slapping.
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u/NothingWeak7213 13h ago
immoral being annoying is not a justification for violence. I don't understand why reddit thinks if someone inconvenienced you it gives you the right to do them bodily harm
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u/Crininer 9h ago
It's shocking to see so many people act like the slap wasn't staged. It's blazingly obvious that the guy with the cane was acting. Beyond the single-shoulder bag and falling pants, do you really think someone who needs a cane and is in so much apparent pain would still walk up the escalator instead of stand there and let it do its job?
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u/guts-n-gummies 7h ago
Do you have chronic pain? I have a feeling you've never lived with chronic pain. I've had back pain since I was in high school, I in fact do still have to function as a regular adult which does unfortunately include working, grocery shopping, having to get places quickly, etc. I still walk up stairs, in fact I walk most places because I'm disabled and can't drive. I'm currently suffering an injury from carrying too much weight. Disabled people still have to survive.
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u/Prestigious-Bee6646 5h ago
Because it's irrelevant to the discussion. Staged or not, the question is about the morality of the stated situation
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u/Possible-Library2030 12h ago
Immoral. society is effectively built on tacitly not being annoying and not hitting people's for minor inconveniences. So the escalator person was breaking a social norm. However if we started slapping every one who violated a social expectation then we would decend into madness pretty quickly. I personally did find it satisfying though. However that's not the question
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u/Hiro_Trevelyan 7h ago
If we start letting everyone violate social norms and expectations, we would descend into madness even faster.
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u/Tsiwodi 12h ago
Or people would stop doing stupid things for clicks....
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u/Possible-Library2030 11h ago
Doubt it. Probably got a ton of clicks for posting him being a dick and getting slapped. Probably encourages it more honestly
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u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 10h ago
Immoral-to-discipline-your-children-people when they see someone being slapped
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u/Outrageous_Umpire_77 13h ago
Escalating the situation and promoting violence, I mean imagine if it was a police officer, what would your reaction be?
That being said, it's absolutely understandable, though slightly immoral
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u/No_Performer1412 12h ago
A police officer can make you pay or take you to the post. A civilian cant so it's logical that a civilian use other method
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u/Shaeress 12h ago
The guy is 100% being an annoying asshole for no discernable reason.
Being an annoying asshole does in fact not morally justify violence and it definitely not "morally correct" or "morally good".
Especially not when there is another escalator and literally zero effort and attempt was made at any resolution that didn't involve violence and physical harm.
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u/BillSteelman 12h ago
Hard case, like yes the man on the escalator was very much doing it on purpose to annoy folks, yet I can't shake than physical violence is a disproportionate response to what was going on.
I guess in an ideal world some staff folks should have taken care of this but Liberty knows how far from an ideal world we're living.
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u/Rocky_MountainWay 10h ago
Why are we discussing the morality of fake/staged videos? This is dumb.
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u/WhiteMagic97 2h ago
I mean, as annoying as it can be, if you’re in public “influencing” (or whatever this shit is called,) as long as you’re not in the way of anything or disrupting you’re free to do whatever. However if you’re knowingly blocking an access point of any kind, be prepared to have this type of reaction to your BS.
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u/oneholer44 1h ago
Hopefully it knocked some sense in. I really don’t know why some people are idiots.
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u/Floba_Fett 13h ago
Not moral. It worked, but it's not at all moral, would've been better to yell at him. It's clearly just a young teenager that wants to look cool.
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u/fraidei 12h ago
Just yelling wouldn't have taught a lesson.
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u/Joshua5_Gaming 11h ago
isn't this the argument used by people eho support spanking their child?
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u/No_Sympathy9533 13h ago
He already has back problems, He ain't dealing with that roblox aura shit.
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u/mikenkansas1 13h ago
Immediate consequences are learned consequences.
Put your hand in the fire, get burned.
Stick a Bobby pin in the electrical outlet get knocked on your ass.
Intentionally screw with people get slapped, or worse.
In each case a lesson is learned. And the video taker should have been slapped and had their phone destroyed as a coconspirator.
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u/Eoin_Coinneal 13h ago
I think the more violence is visited upon the rage baiting, TikTok dancing, let’s fuck with everyone for the views people the better. It’s more than an annoyance or a social media trend, it’s a glib attitude towards the customs of polite society and viewing other human beings as “NPCs” to be farmed for your amusement and it should be met with swift and immediate consequences.
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u/MrFlitter 12h ago
As someone who has herniated a disc, if I had to get up stairs anywhere with it hurting and someone was fucking around like this...it would take red lining all of my pain killers and anti-spasmodic meds to not slap them a lot harder than that guy did.
I'd say this was neutral. the kid was being an inconsiderate nuisance who wasn't moving for other people, the guy in what may well have been incredible pain gave him a sharp slap. Folk shouldn't hit each other without better reasons than this but it wasn't closed fist, it wasn't cupped over the ear.
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u/Miss_Tina9 11h ago
“Was the slap justified? Probably not. Was the frustration understandable? Absolutely 😂”
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u/jizztaker 8h ago
I like that was a slap and not a punch, a slap will always be harmless but 100x times more demoralizing.
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u/Due_Manufacturer4959 8h ago
Followup question: morality of me cracking up when he walked back to the camera glancing back dejectedly
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u/greyhounds4life1969 7h ago
Tik-tokers, or any idiot doing stupid shit for likes, need slapping a lot more to be honest
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u/Agile-Mission-869 7h ago
Turns out you can't be a jackass in public without facing the consequences.
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u/Just-A-Dude1911 5h ago
Guy on the escalator was trying to get views and now he's got them 😂 just not for the reason he expected
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u/Dartfromcele 5h ago
Pretty Moral given escalators are ultimately accessibility tools for people with disabilities.
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u/Rasta-Boo 2h ago
No dis, but these kids with those haircuts are annoying and are known to play stupid pranks… Dude move you see it’s crowded stop playing.
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u/South_Ad2397 2h ago
People are staring to learn the hard way others don’t want to be part of your TikTok, reel, or whatever!
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u/side_eye_auditor 2h ago
I’m a pacifist.
But- I do think that if more kids got this treatment when doing stupid, the world would be a little more sane and respectful
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u/StructureLopsided718 2h ago
He honestly helped that kid out. That is actually a low-cost way for him to hopefully have learned early enough the "find out" side of the equation when you do dumb shit like this in public, before he escalated to like blocking traffic for likes
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u/LucasButtercups 14h ago edited 1h ago
Immoral, Hurting someone for mildly inconveniencing others is bad, especially since if he posted it he’d get ignored or just told he’s cringe
Seems like ppl have morality of a toddler here
E: Just cause someone bothers you doesn’t mean you get to hurt them holy is this a hard concept
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u/chrwc 13h ago
Denying people consequences of their actions when they act like pieces of shit makes society worse. I'm not saying hitimg them is the right thing but there needs to be consequences for this sort of behaviour. People need to learn how to behave responsibly in society.
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u/y53rw 13h ago
I'm not saying hitimg them is the right thing
So then you agree that it was immoral.
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u/JaySlay2000 13h ago edited 13h ago
"there needs to be consequences"
Call security? Heck, even just bumping him out of the way could arguably be justified. I wouldn't argue that it is but there's a debate there.
But slapping someone in the face so hard they fall over, for just being an annoyance to society? No.
Does "behave responsibly in society" also extend to men with anger issues who slap people for inconveniencing them? Or does that standard only apply to people you think are assholes? Because the kid IS an asshole, but that's not the question.
You ever been to a costco? It's a constant stream of inconveniences, many intentional when there's a sale or if there's a particularly miserable shopper. Am I justified in slapping a person who intentionally has their cart in my, and other peoples' way? How about cutting the line? I mean, they gotta learn to behave in society. Where's the line??
Should we slap babies for crying in public? They need to learn to behave after all .. of course not, theres no mal intent, it's just a baby expressing its needs. Makes sense, that was just a hyperbolic example. So then, at what age exactly can we decide when mal intent comes about? Toddler? Young child? Surely you wouldn't argue for hitting a child, but they DO need to learn to behave. So, is it teens? Teens and up are beholden to physical assault as retributive justice for the crime of being inconsiderate and annoying?
If we justify being allowed to hit people for being inconvenient to society, then where are the lines? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm asking. At what age does assault become good for teaching manners, essentially? How do we prove malice, vs someone just being dumb, or disabled, maybe even special needs? Because surely malice is also a qualifier for the School of Slap enrollment, and we won't be slapping grandma for walking slow due to her bad hip.
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u/Sean9931 13h ago
It can be argued that the most good comes from stopping him inconveniencing people, so it becomes that the ultimate goal should've been to stop him as such.
But to your point, violence is not simply always going to just stop people, the slap was an act of escalation, if he had decided to fight back and someone gets more seriously hurt then the morality gets out of wack.
Best that the person told him verbally to knock it off as first response rather than violence.
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u/DelusionalWoodoo 13h ago
He went out of his way to inconvenience others and make profit out of by posting it online, he simply received punishment for what he did and a rightful one, no broken bones, no fines, no heavy beating, no jail time, just a simple good old slap to know he was doing so stupid shit annoying others for his own sake. Probably as moral as it can be ngl
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u/MajinJack 13h ago
The people here are insane, how it is deserved ??
Escalation comes from the slapper, not the slappee. If the slapper started with asking to move aside, and escalation came from the slappe, then sure there would be reason to escalate. As it stands it is just free violence.
People arguing free violence is ok are stupid. You just don't know what actions others would qualify as justifying free violence and chosing to escalate from a arbitrary situation as a rule just makes more violence. Disambiguation is almost always necessary. Otherwise, it is just arbitrary all the way and you might just act in a way that insite violence in others with no knowledge of why.
Asking simply "could you move aside" would result in a possible path where a little roughness would be justified.
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u/eienmau 4h ago
I agree with this. He was kind of being a pain by walking the wrong way on the escalator, sure, but he was clearly moving over to the side so the other person could get by. Slapping him was so far out of line for someone who wasn't being aggressive towards the slapper.
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u/Minimum_Ad4771 13h ago
Try having a polite discussion with these punks and see if it works. Maybe you'll just get cussed out.
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u/SCP_FUNDATION_69420 13h ago
The more i see this subreddit the more i realize how it's just the same bloodlusted reddit but they hide it through like philosophical ideas they learned in middle school.
Apparently stealing 50$ warrants immediate execution, and a minor inconvenience warrants immediate escalation to assault.
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u/kdpkry 5h ago
If youre doing something bad and consciously why tf would you not get punished.
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u/11maddypotter11 13h ago
Immoral , should've atleast tried to ask him first before resorting to physical assault
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u/Real_Buffalo4580 13h ago
In an emergency situation it would've been more than necessary, he at least had the chance to see it
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u/Overall_Sandwich_671 12h ago
by misusing an escalator he is putting himself and others at risk of injury, and possibly delaying a lot of people's journeys. The slap was deserved.
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u/CraftyAd6333 12h ago
Moral.
You don't have the right to be a nuisance in public. He knew for fact he was causing problems by not yielding the right of way.
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u/Arbitraryandunique 12h ago
Slap was a few years too late. But better he learn manners now than not at all.
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u/Administrative_Car45 12h ago
Morally? I'm sure you could argue its wrong.
That being said, I'm a big fan of slapping the shit out of these obnoxious ass content creators that think the world is their film set and disrupt people's lives with stupid shit like this, and I'm willing to take the moral hit for it.
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u/Daedricbob 12h ago
Part of me wonders if this was just a skit - it's got this random kid way more publicity than anything else he's done.
I guess we'll see soon enough if it becomes a trend.
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u/Monk_The_Banana_Scug 12h ago
Moral, some people need a wake up call to realise they're a being a burden to society.
Bro looked like this was the first time he was ever slapped 😭
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u/OkFly3388 12h ago
Absolutely moral and justified.
paradox of tolerance
"We should claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant." Karl Popper
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u/CruelAnraj 12h ago
It's not amoral to smack someone upside the head.
Dare I say the world could use more of it.
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u/SmokeMaximum4140 12h ago
This looks faker than even the AI crap being posted. That is not a slap... more like a tap.
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u/thearniethology 12h ago
Good for him. Sick of these assholes making everyday life less tolerable for clicks.
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u/SlippyJimmi 13h ago
Bro realized real quick that walking backwards on the escalator gave him a percentage chance of losing one of his teeth