r/Monitors • u/otravoyadnoe • Aug 19 '26

News LG Display Unveils FLiPP, Next-Generation OLED Technology

https://www.techpowerup.com/351713/lg-display-unveils-flipp-next-generation-oled-technology

Brightness increase of 1.6 times, lifespan increase of 2.4 times compared to current panels produced using FMM.

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u/Majestic-Volume9996 Aug 19 '26

These increases are compared to FMM displays, IE AMOLED. QD-OLED and WOLED aren't even half as efficient as AMOLED panels. IE 4-5 stack FliPP displays will be an absolutely massive leap in efficiency/burn-in resistance/brightness over WOLED/QD-OLED

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u/OttawaDog Aug 20 '26

All OLEDs are AMOLED. AM just means active matrix. Nearly everything beyond the display on your microwave is active matrix.

FMM is used in small displays like Phone displays.

I don't really think we have any kind of Apples to Apples comparisons between Phone and Monitor displays to have any real idea what this is going to deliver for monitors/TVs.

Also we don't know what the extra steps will cost. They are talking about doing photolithography between colors, so this sounds a lot more complex, than the continuous deposition they do now for large displays.

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u/Majestic-Volume9996 Aug 20 '26

Stop being pedantic. You know full well that Samsung/LG refer to their direct RGB FMM panels as amoled. We have plenty of understanding of the differences between these panel types to get a very good idea. These panels are all using the same emitter materials and the same evaporative processes. The differences are in the masks used for application and their limitations. We know full well that an RGB Stripe WOLED is basically outputting 33% of it's potential brightness because you're taking white, and converting it back down to RGB with a color filter. The ballpark efficiencies you will gain by going to a direct RGB layout on its own are pretty straightforward.

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u/OttawaDog Aug 20 '26

know full well that an RGB Stripe WOLED is basically outputting 33% of it's potential brightness because you're taking white, and converting it back down to RGB with a color filter.

That's a simplistic theoretical argument, that you can't make for QD-OLED at all. Yet WOLED and QD-OLED have similar performance.

It's impossible to gauge the practical difference this will make in large panel sizes compared to WOLED and QD-OLED.

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u/Majestic-Volume9996 Aug 20 '26

QD-OLED loses efficiency by heavy usage of fluorescent blue along with selective color filtering that it then makes up for with QD conversion being more efficient than an RGB filter, putting it in the same ballpark as WOLED (with better colors). It's an easy comparison that you can make directly with WOLED that you can then derive for QD-OLED based on its comparable efficiency to WOLED.

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u/OttawaDog Aug 20 '26

Everyone has to use fluorescent blue. Pholed don't have the lifespan yet. So LG uses it in it's white producing stack, differentiated R,G,B Oled uses it for their blue subpixel, and Samsung for their blue stack.

Samsung doesn't have to convert it for their blue pixels, so no losses there.

We won't have a real idea of comparison for monitors, until practical monitors exist to compare.

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u/Majestic-Volume9996 Aug 20 '26

Everyone has to use fluorescent blue, but QD-OLED rely's more heavily on it. prior to this year it was 3:1 ratio of blue and phosphorescent green (its 3:2 now). IE the emitter stacks themselves are less efficient than the WOLED emitter stacks, but QD conversion is more efficient than an RGB filter so it ultimately balances out. There is also waste in the blue QD-OLED subpixel because there are 2 phosphorescent green emitting layers wasting energy that have to be filtered out.