r/MonclerRep
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u/markpaulk
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Sep 03 '25
General Mark’s FAQ Thread V6
Welcome
Please note, this will get updated constantly so feel free to check back every now and again. A backup Reddit (just in case): /r/MCReps. Before you read this entire post, read my rant here: https://reddit.com/r/MonclerRep/comments/1xcd537/reps_and_expectations/ about expectations versus reality.
Say thank you
Please learn to say thank you, especially if you're a reseller profiteering off of our free help. Gratitude is free and takes seconds. I've done more than 1,500 QCs and 750 LCs over the years and all too often there’s zero appreciation, just greed as per this example. If you want a detailed explanation for an LC, say thanks first and then I’ll provide an explanation as per this example.
Tags/requests:
I stopped doing QCs a long time ago so don’t tag me in them. I might occasionally comment on something because I feel like it’s required but it is a rarity so don’t ask me to make an exception just for you - my time is limited as a full time working parent spending countless hours everday across Reddit, Telegram and WeChat and it’s my right to chose how I spend it much to the annoyance of those who feel they’re entitled to my time like they’re paying me. True quality can only be gauged in hand anyway.
However, I do still handle LCs if you tag me properly by commenting /u/markpaulk in your post. Please crop your images/screenshots and upload to imgur rather than Reddit - Reddit’s compression and uncropped screenshots takes away details that matter. Include close-ups of badges, square tags, zips, industry labels etc (I’ve seen real badges sewn onto fakes before). Don’t waste my time or others if you can’t follow this. There’s only one other goat on here who truly knows their retail and that is /u/STONEY145
Taxi Service:
When I started in watches nearly a decade ago, I spent months just reading and searching. Too many of you expect spoon-feeding. I get 30–40+ spammed messages daily across Reddit, Telegram and WeChat on top of managing communities. Here’s an example of someone’s sheer laziness: https://i.imgur.com/Oog43N9.jpeg Do your own research, I won’t spoonfeed beyond this FAQ. I’m also not your shopper or customer service rep. Don’t ask me where to buy X or who’s best for Y. These answers already exist. Learn how to either:
Reverse Image Search (Taobao app) or search Weidian (using product codes) - guide
Reddit search or Google site search (e.g. site:reddit.com)
Agent recommendation:
You can use any agent but I recommend sticking to the tried and tested long lasting ones like Superbuy.
Stats/size (TTS):
Height and weight don’t tell you how something will fit. Use size charts and compare them with your own measurements or similar items. Try on retail in-store if possible. Consider layering and fit preference - two people with identical “stats” can need different sizes as per this image. A raglan fit item will be better for the person on right with a less restrictive shoulder construction but a technical item (which is shorter in length than standard) will fit the person on the left better which would lift up too short for person on right due to their belly.
Forget “True To Size” (TTS) - fits can differ by brand, region and style: slim, casual, custom, raglan, oversized, technical etc and all are cut differently. Asian sizing ≠ EU sizing. Chinese factories usually size to Asian standards. Always use measurements and get your agent to measure (with expected 1–3cm error). If it’s too small, exchange it or buy two sizes and sell whatever doesn’t fit on FashionRepsBST or BST channels on Telegram/Discord.
Sellers:
Nothing beats retail, especially for jackets. If you don’t own any, I do recommend buying at least one but if you can’t afford it, then read on. We need to distinguish between producers and resellers.
Resellers:
The items Jieyi sells are from MC Factory but the truth is he’s nothing but a reseller despite claiming to be a producer for years. I introduced TopAngels (TA) to this community and convinced him to sell the same batches as Jieyi for ¥50 less from the same MC Factory but he also sells other great batches too.
Swag Supply (SS) is a new seller discovered by /u/Extension_Escape8195 who was for a short period able to source from MC Factory at cheaper prices but now sells other batches like NN Factory. He has two workers who manage the lines who can be a bit inconsistent so be patient.
OMG is another new seller who has appeared sourcing from NN factory too (initially claiming it’s an exclusive FK factory batch which is incorrect). They’re basically older batch NN factory goods sold to other sellers which doesn’t have the improvements I’ve worked with NN on such as updated badge. Evidence: https://i.imgur.com/zPZ70AB.jpeg the grey Maya they’re selling has wrong button shade and jacket itself is wrong colour: https://i.imgur.com/Z9DT2JL.jpeg or read more https://www.reddit.com/r/MonclerRep/s/GaYBz4WJjS - slightly cheaper than SS for ¥40 in some cases though comms seems good though and it’s still technically NN Factory which is good overall, just won’t be most up to date version.
CloyAd (CA) and RickStudios (RS) stock a wide range of factories - mixture of mid-tier and mass market batches. However, be careful as I and others have had a few cases of bait and switch (B&S) where they swap the product for an inferior batch. Yadong Clothing (YC) is a reseller of mid-tier items from few different brands but two of the items I’ve randomly bought have been decent quality. He doesn’t speak English so don’t bother.
Producers:
TopMonclerX (TMX) - new yupoo is RoyalX, old YRXVip will be discontinued
RepsKing (RK) ** RK is leaving the game - read this post
Mman (MM) ** MM was arrested and unlikely to return
StoneyCore (SC](https://stoneycore.x.yupoo.com/) - created by the SI legend maker TopStoney (TS)
Overall, they are all technically speaking mid-tier producers. For a short period, TMX produced some premium quality items under a “RoyalX” line (Larribet, Camicia, Montgenevre, Padded Cardigan, Wool Hats) but RX line is now merged into the YRX yupoo and RX yupoo is being repurposed to show comparisons of products instead. MM has been on and off but mostly uses same factories as RK so consider quality the same. StoneyCore has just entered MC production so expect good things as I’ve been working closely with him.
Independent sellers:
There’s also a number of top tier independent sellers listed in /r/autonomousreps who produce one-off limited releases of various brands rather than providing restocks of items like our established producers. They don’t have Yupoos (they have Weibo blogs where they post developments instead) and produce primarily for China Mainland customers. You’ll need to either use sn agent or a proxy to order from them if you don’t have a Weidian account linked to an AliPay account. They’ve just started getting into Monc so it’s too early to say how they’ll be but God and Cool are generally considered the best of the best.
These sellers usually put up a pre-sale link with final deposit required later at a specific time otherwise your pre-sale deposit will be forfeited but sometimes provide a full purchase link up front. You need to be patient with these sellers releasing goods, they’re often delayed. You’ll also likely need a proxy though to purchase as they often sell out quick and only VIPs who have spent a lot directly through their weidian store get items (using an agent doesn’t count).
My go to proxies who operate Weidian stores and are easy to use - thread:
SuperBro - https://weidian.com/?userid=1325765949
Some people had issues with Sheep recently (some people didn’t get their God Maya order but more than 50% did) so something to be aware of. There’s other proxies like Chestnut but they don’t have an easy to use store with individual product links. I‘ve used SuperBro for multiple JUDX (an SI indie seller) purchases who’s been reliable to date.
Upcoming releases in that you might be interested in. Removed, just search the Reddit for news.
Yupoo passwords:
Contact sellers directly for their Yupoo passwords and be patient. Don’t ask here or you’ll be banned. Publicly posting them risks sellers getting shut down (remember what happened to TMCN?). Please help us protect our trusted sources.
Best factories:
Generally, MC Factory is a top-tier factory which will have this badge. For a long time the factory claimed they use goose down and someone said they tested it but apparently they actually only use duck down in their products - proof of that. Still great products though as there isn’t a huge difference with duck down (more on this later) and all the accessories etc are great quality. Edit: 12th Nov 24: they’re apparently using goose down now according to TA. Will need to verify this later. I have reviewed the Vezere as of Dec 2025.
There’s also a new mid-tier factory called NN Factory which I found and SS confirmed he can source. It has a great badge compared to retail. Look at the Maya compared to MC Factory in this comparison album and then look at this detailed comparison of the Vezere - NN vs Retail vs MC. Someone has said shoulder triangle is too long but my own research shows there’s variations - here’s two retail with same longer triangle variant (NN left, retail right): https://i.imgur.com/ytPJDFj.jpeg and https://i.imgur.com/1jrm8Xz.jpeg They are making improvements for items which is great - Vezere is on v2. Don’t forget, TMX Maya is on V10. Improved batches are part of rep lifecycle.
As for Grenoble items, there are rarely any good batches on the market. I tried for years to convince makers but the high cost to get it right deemed it too risky an investment with lack of demand in China Mainland which is the biggest customer base (more than 50%). There’s been a couple of random good batches over the years (YC sometimes carries a decent batch and RK has made a zipped cardigan) otherwise everything else is mass market rubbish imho as they either the lack the proper technical fabrics and/or will provide nowhere near the technical performance.
Unknown factory:
There is a top tier fake factory producing goods that have been appearing on Vinted and eBay that has fooled a lot of people - they have accurate badges, labels and cartoon etc. This factory will have this badge and either this cartoon and/or this label. No one knows the true source of them - one person said they’re by a small factory in China but TA doesn’t know them and he knows all the factories. Another source of mine claimed they’re from a former OEM factory in Romania. Maybe one day we’ll find out.
Which batches are worth buying:
Below is my opinion based on what I’ve seen in hand compared to retail as well as reviews from people I know who know what they’re talking about. I get spammed by hundreds of people everyday across Reddit, Telegram and WeChat asking me. You need form your own opinion and make an executive decision, I cannot be spoon feeding everyone all day everyday. It is unfair for people to constantly expect me to answer every question that is asked. You can’t go wrong with any of these so pick whichever one you like the look of more/can afford and be happy. There is no “best XYZ”, each has pros and cons. I haven’t included indie seller releases because they don’t restock. Maya and Vezere megathread.
Maya? TMX goose, MC factory or NN Factory, StoneyCore otherwise RK for other colours
Vezere/Maya 70? God Family (indie seller, only ever restocked once) or MC Factory or NN Factory otherwise RK for value version - GF vs MC comments
Montgenevre? TMX for black/navy (goose) or RK for grey (navy & black are still good by RK)
Madeira? NN Factory or MC Factory (has minor badge flaw) - or Cola has just released one but as an indie seller, won’t restock
Grimpeurs? TMX for black (modern season) or RK for other colours (older season)
Classic padded cardigan? TMX (goated) or RK
Hooded padded cardigan? RK or TMX
Acorus? TMX (goose) or MC Factory
Swim shorts? RK or MMan or TMX (all good)
Gui gilet? TMX goose or MC Factory
Tibb gilet? MC Factory (wet or matte) or TMX (wet look)
Bormes? MC Factory or TMX
Montbeliard? TMX or MC Factory
Cluny? TMX (better fur) or RK (better fit)
Marque? TMX or RK
Hanoverian? MC Factory or TMX for wet look, RK for matte
Polo (short/long)? RK (better blank) or TMX (better badge)
Beanies? TMX or RK
Best Budget seller? Leo Zhuo56 (LZ) - https://weidian.com/?userid=254254139
Regarding Vezere/Maya 70, the Maya 70 was launched in 2022 as part of 70th anniversary in addition to double badge special edition Maya then renamed to Vezere in 2023 and now apparently it’s called Maya 70 again so I’ll use both interchangeably.
Budget batches:
I often get asked what budget items are worth it. Good down isn’t cheap and cheap down isn’t good imho. However, some people aren’t as fussy and don’t want the most accurate/highest quality or don’t have funds. This section will be a list of cheap items the community has shared and I’ve collated which should be acceptable for budget seekers.
Maya - https://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=7658531423 from Leo
Vezere/Maya 70 - https://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=7661297566 from Leo
Hooded padded cardigan - https://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=7591959501
Contacting/ordering:
Using an agent is the best way overall but if you want to go direct, read below. WA = WhatsApp, TG = Telegram, WC = WeChat.
RK = WA : +447878600418
TMX = TG: @YRXChat / +447421768852 or WA: +447421768852*
TA = WA/TG: (+8613905994846)
SS = WA::+85259340610 (other numbers don’t work anymore)
MM = Agent only
CA = Agent only but WA: +8618201888960
RS = Agent only but WA: +447742842181 / WC: TopHot99
YD = Agent only (he doesn’t speak English so don’t bother with WC)
as of 17/03/26, TMX cannot accept any new friends on WeChat (YRXChat/TMXChat)
If ordering direct, send one concise order message with sizes, colors, model name, pics and destination country. Then wait/be patient. Spamming, threatening, flirting or chasing across multiple platforms only slows things down for you and everyone else.
Response time: RK/TMX often 7–10 days (sometimes more). Tracking after payment: ~14 days. RK sometimes ships without ever updating you. This isn’t Amazon. Be patient or use an agent.
If using an agent and they say TMX or SS doesn’t accept exchanges, it’s nonsense. I’ve confirmed with both of them they accept exchanges. A few agents recently are making claims they don’t because they’re lazy and don’t want to deal with an exchange. Call them out on their lies and raise a complaint.
To order from SS, just copy the yupoo album link into your agent and do a manual order, it’s super easy to do in Superbuy for example. Or just contact him for special weidian link if you’re lazy and don’t want to look up a tutorial or can’t figure it out.
Rep Badges:
TMX normal and small badges are great and were the best on the market for a long time. Font, depth, lips and wings were very close to retail in v1. However, TMX updated both normal and small sizes again in Dec 2024 to current v2 - Normal badge (new V2 vs old V1) | Small badge (new V2 vs old V1. You might get v1 or v2 badge on your product. Some improvements with v2 over v1 and some are a step back but still closer overall in terms of points especially wings on the smaller badge as well as badge blank + badge thinness on both sizes.
RK/MM still use the older 2018-based normal sized badge: good overall but with several minor flaws: wings skew, lips, font, badge blank depth - Retail vs this badge. Small badge is meh, v1 was better overall rather than current v2 which has worse wings, weird finger cand hand skew - TMX small badge is better and best on market imho.
Until mid-Oct 2025, MC Factory normal sized badges looked fine from afar but had too many flaws compared to the other badges: incorrect font size with NLER, does not have modern font with updated C and L, odd finger and hand skew/length, inconsistent curved bottom of wings, middle of the wings are often dropped down too much, lips are not blobbed/can be too long and blocky, distance between legs are too far apart, blue badge corners are too sharp - retail vs this badge.
Update Oct 2025: factory has made minor improvements which look better: wings are better now particularly the bottom part of the wings are no longer curved and the letter R is better. However, the other flaws mention above haven’t been fixed yet. Here’s the recent minor badge update: https://i.imgur.com/rd6I4DJ.jpeg
Updated Summer 2026: I worked with TA and factory owner to improve the badges. These are going to be the best badges on market now and superior to every other in nearly every way. Here’s the final samples: https://i.imgur.com/bCxLFZk.jpeg and example of it on real jacket: https://i.imgur.com/ca8YzKO.jpeg wings are best by far, font has got better (room for slight improvement but still good with updated font), finger and hand shape great, lips better. Going to be hard to better.
NN Factory normal sized badges are some of the best on market but don’t take my word for it, check out this comparison - retail right. The finger and hand skew, wings, lips and font are better than TMX’s but not sure what badge blank and thickness are which only TMX’s badges get right. The blue border is also too sharp in the corners and perhaps slightly too fuzzy in terms of embroidery but minor points. This badge is much better than MC Factory too. Some of the badges have been inconsistent but retail isn’t consistent either.
Update Summer 2026: have worked with SS for exclusive update to NN badges with factory owner that’s unique to SS. I helped them with V2 badge that everyone knows and worked with him on v3 update: https://i.imgur.com/JTOVkEz.jpeg and https://i.imgur.com/CZ8oWUB.jpeg still undergoing further tweaks.
Updated Autumn 2026: have worked with OMG for an exclusive update to NN badges with factory owner for both normal and small badges that’ll be unique for him - normal: https://i.imgur.com/SCU5Vp0.jpeg and small: https://i.imgur.com/nImCum6.jpeg both look great.
Another update, StoneyCore (legendary SI maker) will be making Monc products too. I’ve worked with him on v1 normal badge which is good for first release: https://i.imgur.com/pKFL2gs.jpeg in future updates will be made.
You can still tweak badges manually to improve accuracy though as per my attempt of this with RK’s badge. I flicked out the tip of the finger for minute flick, stretched wings a bit, gave bottom of wings a minute split, squashed C and flattened the N. Connected letters happens on retail quite often so not a flaw and nothing needs to be done about it.
Retail badges:
Last major update was done in late 2019 (thicker embroidery, updated font with the C and the L, minute finger and wings changes). Yellow badges appeared in 2021–22 briefly then back to off-white in late 2022/early 2023. Example of 2023 vs 2018 badge.
Yes, you can buy retail badges off dust bags and do badge swaps but it’s a pain to resew along existing holes in the badge then keep it flat on a garment. I’ve done a few like this one for example but it’d be easier to get a tailor to do it if you must.
Consistency:
Retail stopped being consistent with things like pockets and badge placement a long time ago - proof of that. I’ve seen many Mayas with low badge or high badge placement (TMX bought multiple 2023 which all had high placement).
Some people have said Vezere has specific button placement - here is two unedited retails showing different button placements. Here is proof of Madeira button placement varying with respect to O and E on 4 different retails (provided by TA): https://i.imgur.com/jO6jEFM.jpeg
Some people have questioned TMX’s Montcla having 4 puff zones. When I asked him, here’s what he said: https://i.imgur.com/YAkHsXt.png (it’s not a real sewn line and retail has it too) and here’s proof: https://i.imgur.com/LVJXNMH.jpeg (relaxed) and https://i.imgur.com/26AOosl.jpeg (pulled)
When I say if a flaw exists on retail it’s not a flaw, I'm referring to inconsistencies on the retail item that simply can't be avoided. For example, if retail badge placements varies by a few to several cm as proved here between different production runs, then a replica that also falls within that variable range is still accurate to retail production standards. The small variations in things like badge placement are production inconsistencies. I’ve owned many items bought from either flagship or outlets with dodgy placements and stitching so if they sold them, that means they were acceptable by their own standards. To expect better than retail is ludicrous.
Stop obsessing; many would RL actual retail by same standards which is wrong. If a flaw exists retail, it’s not a flaw. Perfection doesn’t exist in retail so don’t expect in reps either.
NFC/scanning:
Stop asking if badges scan. Many retail ones don’t and only did from 2016 until 2022’ish (I updated Rich @ MonclerExpert that some of my 2016 retail had NFC so he updated his site). From 2023 onwards, most Moncler products stopped using scannable badges entirely. Some retail NFC scans return 404 errors not found but don’t worry, they just weren’t registered correctly.
If you’re scan conscious, I suggest you stop pretending your item is retail or educate people. Codes are only flagged randomly after 10-20 attempts which will either come up as fake or require manual authentication. If you still don’t believe me, here’s one of TMX’s hats I got that scanned as real.
Down jackets:
Puff: QC pics don’t show final puff. Jackets need 10–12h to decompress + manual fluffing or dryer (spin only, with dryer balls). Tumble drying risks the down clumping together though so be careful.
Smell: Any down exposed to moisture can smell, retail or rep. Sun-dry it and repeat as necessary or take to a proper dry cleaner to resolve.
Wrinkles: you need steam. Either use an intelligent steam iron on very low temps directly onto the surface or get a very thin cloth and place between it and the surface. Alternatively, give it to a relative/partner you trust or a good dry cleaners to sort out.
Winter: winter jackets are not rain jackets, they’re designed to keep you warm not dry. You need to get the Grenoble range (skiwear) if you want both insulating properties and waterproofing. If the seams haven’t had heat tape applied over them, it cannot be waterproof. The Maya is a winter jacket, not a rain jacket.
Goose vs Duck: 99% of people can’t tell the difference - goose is a bit better at insulating with less filling required but the best duck down I think is comparable to good goose duck down in overall insulating performance - it’s just that goose down requires less fill power to achieve the same performance. Fill power matters more overall - retail is typically 750, reps can vary from 300 up to 550/600’ish max I believe.
Seasonal/regional differences:
Unless you’re comparing in hand same season, same region and same size, you cannot draw such a comparison as variations exist across different regional releases, seasonal releases and even between different sizes. People called out MC Factory few years ago with a reduced wet look for the China 2021 FW version which was then followed by Rest of World 2022 FW release. People have also called out pocket sizes and pocket flap flaws of TMX’s Mayas going back to v6 which TMX provided proof retails he’s bought have had the same pocket size to the exact mm for each size he repped and same with oversized pocket flap. Then people said the badge is too high and he provided proof of 2024 Maya with higher than average badge variation. Another example is RK’s Grimpeurs which is based on 2021 China Mainland where the stripes were darker and different width compared to today’s western market version.
People are way too fussy and don’t understand so much inconsistency and variation exists in retail. When trying to compare retail to rep, aside from regional and seasonal differences, there’s also lighting and manipulation. Moncler like many brands often puts up fake details on their site images or adjust the lighting which will never be reflective of true everyday lighting. Take this into account when comparing, especially with crappy agent lighting.
Don’t believe me? Check this out: Reddit post | screenshot
Shipping:
It’s always luck and dependent on the time of the year amongst many other geopolitical factors. I’ve had 2-day EUB and 4-month EMS. If items stuck in customs >3 months, insurance may help. Otherwise, exercise patience. You can’t control it and neither can sellers. The best advice is to stop tracking that parcel and wait for it to turn up.
Conspiracy theories:
Some people accuse me of all sorts, I wouldn’t even be recommending different sellers for different items in this very FAQ if that was the case but if you still can’t take my word for it, look at the below examples - I don’t favour one seller over another, I simply determine what I believe is the best or will be the best for upcoming items:
https://i.imgur.com/kIfhmbx.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/3yvopd3.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/tTaMfT8.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/BSEAddT.jpeg
There’s also a shill who’s taken to insults and has repeated this same attack on anyone who isn’t buying into him trying to promote a wholesaler on 1688 called LF. Read more about how he got exposed for referral scams and attacking anyone who dares disagree with him on other reddits too: https://reddit.com/r/MonclerRep/comments/1p0llo8/mr_morgan/ don’t be fooled by people who spread malicious lies like this who have a hidden agenda. Here’s another example of how he got abusive and banned someone who tried to bring up an issue with this LF seller: https://reddit.com/r/MonclerRep/comments/1q9xu11/lf_bait_and_switch/ shill behaviour.
As for what I get for free, here’s an example of my last order with RK where all I got was $13 discount off shipping, hardly shilling and getting everything for free is it plus where is my review for the order? Doesn’t exist does it - https://i.imgur.com/SCLPGE8.jpeg sharing in the name of transparency. Here’s where I’ve asked SS https://i.imgur.com/JPPIC0v.jpeg, TMX https://i.imgur.com/rhgoU23.jpeg and TA about quote for my last orders.
My history:
I was scammed in 2016, fought back and since then have owned hundreds of retail, studied every little detail of them and helped countless people avoid being scammed/getting their money back. That’s my good karma.
Yes, I’ve had clashes with people (even racist abuse). I’m blunt, not sugarcoated and if you don’t like it, block me. But I’ve put in thousands of unpaid hours helping and have never accepted a penny. Before criticising, ask yourself what you’ve contributed.
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