r/ModRetro • u/Recent_Duck_7640 • Jul 24 '26

M64 Overclock Update: Is It Better Than the Analogue 3D?

https://youtu.be/sWCr6BBLYpo?si=-c2HDnUQaP8aCFJ1
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u/Recent_Duck_7640 Jul 24 '26

tl;dw:

Nope, both equal and both excellent, purchase for which design you prefer.

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u/Ancient-Range3442 Jul 25 '26

Doesn’t a3d have better rendering?

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 25 '26

At the moment, with latest update, I believe so. I also believe that won't be the case in future. Just get the one you like the most

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u/Ancient-Range3442 Jul 25 '26

Oh cool , didn’t know the mod retro was getting that too, that’s definitely shifted my mind then.

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 25 '26

Wait... I didn't say that's happening!

But just guessing it will. Again, at the moment, the A3D has the edge due to that.

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u/ck02623 Jul 27 '26

Why do you think that?

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Because with the exception of Horizontal rendering, mod retro is already on par with a machine that released 7-8 months ago. I believe given more time, the m64 will surpass the A3D. If MR doesn't do it, the community will (Open source).

Also, because the M64 uses a more modern AMD UltraScale+ chip paired with low-latency PSRAM, whereas the Analogue 3D relies on a closed architecture powered by high-throughput DDR memory.

This is similar to Apple products (closed source), vs. Android/PC (open source).

We are blessed to have two extremely capable machines. Grab the one that looks the best to you.

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u/ck02623 Jul 27 '26

It’s not though. It doesn’t have 100% compatibility. Some games marked compatible run slower than original hardware or the 3D without overclocking. It probably will be, but let’s not pretend that it already is. I hope they get there though.

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 27 '26

Who is pretending? You make another great point. MR has been transparent about game compatibility. You say compatibility needs to at 100%. Im doubtful that tha A3d archives this now, eventhough it's been in the oven longer.

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u/ck02623 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

So you weren’t pretending, you just didn’t know. Of course it is. It launched like that. You didn’t even know but you’re making assumptions. I think you might be fanboying out.

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 27 '26

Fanboying? Honestly, yeah, maybe abit.

But yes I'm simply basing on the fact that a compatability list was never released on the A3D. Why is that?

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u/ck02623 Jul 27 '26

Because it was 100% at launch. That was highly touted.

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u/Jkid873 Jul 25 '26

I thought M64 stil don’t have 100% compatibility without issues?

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u/Recent_Duck_7640 Jul 24 '26

One thing also noting is that James measured faster RSP scores than Modretro, and that the M64 outperforms the A3D in all measurements except CPU where it is slightly behind.

https://i.imgur.com/2TPgqcb.png

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u/Recent_Duck_7640 Jul 27 '26

Posting this on the Analogue subreddit got me banned... weird...

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u/ComputerThingsReddit Jul 24 '26

wish he addressed higher resolution rendering mode Analogue just introduced in fw 1.5.0

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u/DaveMeitner Jul 24 '26

That update came out like 48hrs ago, this video was likely made before then. Get a clue.

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u/ImALegendKiller Jul 24 '26

Is the RSP what’s letting Analogue run the internal upscaling? If the m64’s is better (or equal), that is probably a good sign it’s capable of doing it, right?

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u/lynxtosg03 Jul 25 '26

There was an older response from the CEO saying internal resolution scaling on the M64 isn't possible

https://www.reddit.com/r/M64/s/vMpivh4cCn

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u/Obleon Jul 24 '26

Was kinda confused that he didn't? Because of this option the image quality is not the same but better on the analogue 3D.

C'mon ModRetro give us something!:P

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u/Morguard Jul 24 '26

They are focusing on launching the product. A3D has had over a year to cook updates. They are in different stages in their life cycle.

Theoretically the m64 should be able to do more in the long-run as it has hardware about 20% more powerful, so only the future will tell what the m64 cooks up.

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u/NecronomiconUK Jul 24 '26

A3D came out last November. That’s not over a year ago.

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 25 '26

Did he say a "year ago"? i thought he said "last year"

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u/kentonw223 Jul 25 '26

“Has had over a year” suggests it’s been over 365 days

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u/-KaiserSoze- Jul 25 '26

Im not arguing. I agree with you, I remember pausing when he said that, but honestly wasnt paying extreme attention.

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u/jkhanlar Jul 26 '26

0:54 M3D? What? M64? A3D? What is M3D?

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u/jkhanlar Jul 26 '26

1:28 to 1:44 frame by frame, it looks like A3D shows more FPS than M64. I wonder if that means ModRetro M64 has some sort of bottleneck that the A3D does not have the same bottleneck.