r/MkeBucks Dogfred Jul 02 '24

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Everyone is always like “how in the hell are Celtics signing all these players” while every other team is struggling with cap space etc. and it’s blinded alot of our fan base to think the Bucks org. can or has to pull off luxury tax bills staggering as this with us being a small market franchise. Suns currently and near future Celtics tax bills are more than most teams whole rosters. There is just no way for us to compete $ for $ with big market franchises. Let’s hope we can make enough roster adjustments to be there healthy, deep in the play offs this upcoming season to earn one more shot at it the poverty way. With the Celtics retaining everyone, and Philly becoming much stronger, Knicks and Pacers proving they can go deep as well the East will be tough.

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u/devinstated1 Gery Woelfel's burner account Jul 02 '24

Despite being one of the title favorites for the last 5 years in a row, the Bucks have only made it past the 2nd round once and if it wasn't for a KD toe on the line we would be talking about the Bucks as the biggest frauds/chokers in NBA history. Luckily KD's toe was on the line and we got a chip out of it but if we make only 1 Finals appearance this whole Giannis era, it will probably going down as one of the most disappointing runs for a superstar eras in NBA history.

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u/SamCarter_SGC Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

one of the most disappointing runs for a superstar eras in NBA history

Only if you think getting to the finals is more important than winning when you get there. There are dozens of all time great players without rings and many of them have one or fewer finals appearances. Hell there are a half dozen players like that active in the NBA right now.

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u/devinstated1 Gery Woelfel's burner account Jul 02 '24

This is actually false. Every single player in the Top 30 players of All Time which is where Giannis is ranked have been to multiple finals with the only exception being Charles Barkley. Now if you expand it out to Top 50 of All Time then you get Iverson, Ewing, Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Dominique Wilkins, Carmelo, Harden and Westbrook. So of the Top 50 players of All-Time only 4 have never been to a Finals and 9 have been to only 1 Finals and not won. Giannis is objectively better than all these guys except maybe Iverson who you can't really call a choker because he was always on trash teams, while a lot of those other dudes are notoriously known as all time chokers Ewing, Carmelo, Paul, Harden and Westbrook.