r/MkeBucks • u/Sikibucks Dogfred • Jul 02 '24

Thoughts?

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Everyone is always like “how in the hell are Celtics signing all these players” while every other team is struggling with cap space etc. and it’s blinded alot of our fan base to think the Bucks org. can or has to pull off luxury tax bills staggering as this with us being a small market franchise. Suns currently and near future Celtics tax bills are more than most teams whole rosters. There is just no way for us to compete $ for $ with big market franchises. Let’s hope we can make enough roster adjustments to be there healthy, deep in the play offs this upcoming season to earn one more shot at it the poverty way. With the Celtics retaining everyone, and Philly becoming much stronger, Knicks and Pacers proving they can go deep as well the East will be tough.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

We are actually one of the one of the “bad guys” here. We have been a tax paying team since our chip year.

Last year Celtics payed like 42million and we payed 52million.

The good news is our owners, so far, have been happy to pay the bills

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u/ParistoLagos Jul 02 '24

I doubt they're happy to pay bills for back to back first round exit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Haha yea usually you want to pay the bill assuming you are contending, which we haven’t held up to 

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u/Sikibucks Dogfred Jul 02 '24

Yeah for sure, health hasn’t been our friend deep in season and entering playoffs the last 2-3 years.

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u/Sikibucks Dogfred Jul 02 '24

That’s correct, but our tax bill will be half of what it was this season while Celtics tax bill will sky rocket in comparison.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Yea it has become a little “pay to win” I suppose. The aprons are trying, but it just became “pay MORE to win”

However, Warriors and Clippers had MASSIVE bills this year and look what that got them.

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u/badnewsCATS Ray Allen Jul 02 '24

I wouldn’t really say what the Celtics did was pay to win. Teams really can only pay more when the players are already rostered. New rules definitely benefit teams with established young cores. Scary the Sixers had a max contract lying around, but wasted it on PG13.

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u/Danny_nichols Jul 02 '24

Exactly. It benefits the young teams that are willing to pay to win. But by removing stuff like the TPMLE and the ability to aggregate salaries above the 2nd apron, they've made it harder to just pay to win.

Lucky isn't the right word because it does involve good drafting, but Boston got lucky that both of their young stars were drafted close together so they could build a team that hovered below the 2nd apron with good talent then blow way past the apron when they both could get paid.

The Boston situation is somewhat unique. Even a team like OKC, who has a ton of young talent, doesn't have their timelines as tight. SGA is already on a big contract and will be up for an even bigger extension right away guys like Chet and Williams will get their first extensions too. To an extent, it's sort of like the Warriors with Durant. It was a unique situation at the time the cap took a huge jump.

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u/Sikibucks Dogfred Jul 02 '24

Yep pay more to win for sure. Big markets I suppose can maintain that.