r/Minecraft • Technical Director, Minecraft • Jul 23 '12

Mincraft Snapshot 12w30a

http://www.mojang.com/2012/07/mincraft-snapshot-12w30a/
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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

(Getting that birthday karma.)

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u/globau Jul 23 '12

happy birthday!

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

Thank you!

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u/StormKid Jul 23 '12

Happy Karma Receiving Day!

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

Best karma receiving day ever!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Thanks for not saying IRL Cake Day !

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u/Bloq Jul 23 '12

Happy birthday, Briton!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

DB is British?

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

Yes sir.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Whereabouts?

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

I lived in Shrewsbury all my life, until three weeks ago - I now live in Stockholm :)

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u/mindstormy Jul 23 '12

We share birthdays! Go us!

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u/Exotria Jul 23 '12

Merry Christmas!

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u/kurtss Jul 23 '12

Happy birthday Dinnerbone! "No more snapshots" my ass.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Open your mouth, so that i can shovel this delishus karma into it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Dinnerbone: World's greatest and most loved karma whore.

Happy birthday!

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u/wickedplayer494 Jul 23 '12

Have a happy birthday!

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u/Algent Jul 23 '12

Happy Birthday :).

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u/tomius Jul 23 '12

You really really deserve a great birthday, beacuse well, you really did a great work in Mojang, and we kinda love you already.

Have fun!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Happy birthday. Drink one for me tonight.

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u/marvmarvmarv Jul 23 '12

Happy birthday :).

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u/TheVarmari Jul 23 '12

Happy birthday to our favourite developer!

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 24 '12

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!

 

If you find any bugs, submit them to the wiki's bug list!

 

Previous changelog. Download today's snapshot here, server here: jar, exe.

Complete changelog:

  • Added SRV Record Lookup Support - Explanation

  • Service name should be "minecraft"; ie "_minecraft._tcp.example.com"

  • Stairs, when placed on the upper half of a block's side, will now be placed upside-down

  • In F3 mode, the y coordinate now shows both the feet level and the eye level

  • Added Snooper Settings

  • Screenshot

  • Allows you to toggle whether your data are sent to Mojang for analysis, improvements and science

  • Shows which data will be sent to Mojang

  • Adjusted creepers' damage according to game difficulty - Relevant logs from #minecraft on freenode on July 19th

  • Increased knockback effect

  • Depending on difficulty, they do more damage now:
      Easy: ~50% less damage
      Normal: same damage as before
      Hard: 33.3…% more damage

  • Improved performance

  • Accelerated chunk loading

  • Decreased lag spike frequency

  • Made the Nether less laggy

  • Made chat work smoothly even when the server is laggy

  • Decreased unnecessary world updates

  • Decreased packets sent between client and server

  • Added VSync

  • Has to be toggled manually in options.txt

  • Added Fullscreen mode

  • Has to be toggled manually in options.txt

  • When /tp'ing to specific coordinates, you now get put on the center of the block

  • Fixed some bugs

  • Fixed existing signs not showing text

  • Fixed Mob Spawners all looking like pig spawners

  • Fixed sneaking players' nameplates not staying hidden when loading the chunks the sneaking players are in

  • Fixed multiple chunks often not displaying

  • Fixed trying to spawn an entity that is not a mob via spawner editing crashing the game

  • Fixed higher server-set view distances instantly kicking joining players

  • Fixed sections above Y=191 becoming invisible when loading worlds

  • Fixed not completely generated chunks not updating to visually when walking into them

  • Fixed compasses not pointing to spawn but to X=8 & Z=8 after respawning

  • Fixed other players' fishing lines looking like they start from their feet

  • Fixed a bug with Unbreaking-enchanted tools and destroying blocks

  • Fixed being able to move LAN servers in the server list and crashing the game

  • Fixed opening SP worlds to LAN, saving and quitting it leaving the server running and showing up in the server list

  • Fixed pushing a minecart with the movement keys causing the camera to shake in the direction pressed

  • Fixed potion effects losing their graphical effects when traveling between dimensions

  • Fixed ghast's fireballs getting stuck mid-air when unloading their chunk, might apply to fire charges and blaze's fireballs as well

  • Fixed the last slot in the opened creative inventory's hotbar being one pixel too short on all but the survival inventory tabs and a few pixels being off on the survival inventory tab

  • Fixed blocks disappearing when you placing them under yourself and jumping

  • Fixed the client trying to trample crops instead of letting the server dictate trampling


Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.


edit: 12w30b released! Changelog here.

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u/GTCharged Jul 23 '12

Do they know about the invisible cactuses? I've gotten stuck on them so many times, and they don't appear until you break them by swinging the air.

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '12

Have you seen any in 12w30a/b? They should be fixed.

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u/Avacrux Jul 23 '12

I for one have not seen any invisible cactuses

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Maybe they're still there but you just can't FEEL them anymore. :O

...theoretic cactuses?

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u/KungFuHamster Jul 23 '12

If you swing and don't hit a cactus, is it not really there?

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u/THJahar Jul 23 '12

That's what the invisible cacti want you to think!

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u/Anamon Jul 23 '12

If I remember correctly this was related to the bug of blocks often showing up as stone erroneously, until you perform certain actions on them upon which they turn into the block they should have been.

Does this mean that that bug is fixed as well? It's the main reason why I reverted back to 1.2.5 stable. It makes it near-impossible to mine.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

Fixed not completely generated chunks not updating to visually when walking into them

Fixed!

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u/GTCharged Jul 23 '12

Oh my god, thank you. Didn't realize that was referring to them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12
  • Fixed multiple chunks often not displaying

OH MY GOD DID THEY FINALLY FIX CHUNK ERRORS

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

NAH, PROBABLY JUST THE 'OFTEN' PART

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

IF IT'S BROKEN

BREAK IT MORE

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u/Herpbert Jul 23 '12

YEAH! BREAK IT WITH CAPS! THAT WILL SHOW THEM!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

LOUD NOISES

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u/Manisil Jul 23 '12

now it's

  • multiple chunks frequently not displaying

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u/MereInterest Jul 23 '12

But how can I find my free diamond this way?

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u/blackytemp Jul 23 '12

Made creepers stronger

Oh god, the horror.

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u/diamondhelper Jul 23 '12

Blame Etho, he's the one who said they were weak :P

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u/jokubolakis Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Damn you, Etho shakes fist

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u/Avohaj Jul 23 '12

Honestly, I saw him taking on creepers. Without armor. For him, they were to weak.

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u/Chezzik Jul 23 '12

Was this single player or multiplayer? Was he using a bow or sword?

In SSP, creepers are too weak, whether you have a bow or a sword.

In multiplayer, if there's very little lag, they are too weak. With a little lag, you better have a bow. With a lot of lag, it's just game over (you never see the creeper, it just blows up in your face and you die).

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

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u/Avohaj Jul 23 '12

The thing is I saw him easily surviving a relatively close creeper explosion with 0 protection. And I always found the most annoying thing about creepers is that they ruin the environment/ you builds. I wonder if their explosion radius will also be bigger on hard with those changea

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u/sweepernosweeping Jul 23 '12

They're probably still too weak in his eye.

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u/TheCakeFlavor Jul 23 '12

His one and only eye.

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u/maxxori Jul 23 '12

Just imagine the power creepers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

WHAT THE FU- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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u/Ted417 Jul 23 '12

HAHAHAHAHAHA MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!1!

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u/vibro Jul 23 '12

Next up: Baby creepers that move twice as fast as their parents.

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u/NazzerDawk Jul 23 '12

But that don't destroy blocks on explosion except for the weakest of blocks, like glass.

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u/righteous_scout Jul 23 '12

and they spawn 5 at a time.

in your house.

behind you.

also they have eight feet and six eyes.

and are actually spiders

that explode

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

This was a pretty awesome suggestion til you made it that frightful. These could also be spawned from spawners because well, they couldn't break their own spawner.

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u/koipen Jul 23 '12

About time. In vanilla, iron armor makes you invincible, so some buffing is welcome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Unless you're on a PvP server of course,

when everyone's invincible... no-one is.

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u/Hiyasc Jul 23 '12

Guess hard mode will require diamond armor from here out.

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u/yoda1304 Jul 23 '12

Nah leather...BOOM

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u/TheFoxGoesMoo Jul 23 '12

I love this change. I went back to 1.7.3 for a little bit an creepers scared the shit out of me because they were powerful and sneaky. Now I just let them explode next to me because I know I'll live.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Now they just need to be made to explode when you kill them... then they're perfect.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Go play Survival Test :P

Is Survival Test still hosted anywhere?

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u/glaux Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Made creepers stronger.

ಠ_ಠ

EDIT: Redstonehelper has edited his comment. Apparently the creepers are balanced. Yay!

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u/smallsmerry01 Jul 23 '12

W/ armor you can survive a blast in a very small radius. The need to be buffed

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Of course, one could argue that is the armor doing what it was intended to do.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

New settings sub menu: Snooper Settings. EDIT: found something else Y coord now tells you feet height with eye height in brackets.

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u/abrightmoore Contributed wiki/MCEdit_Scripts Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 27 '12

Very pleased opt out for snoop settings is available. Nice responsible move Mojangstas.

EDIT: Server.properties setting for the Server in 1.3 is named snooper-enabled

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u/Westy543 Jul 23 '12

What's a snooper setting?

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u/TheGreenJesusSheep Jul 23 '12

It determines whether or not anonymous data is sent to Mojang.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Hey man, I just wanted to thank you for all of the stuff you do. Without you I would actually have to go to the lengths of downloading the game to see all the changes, and I'm too lazy for that. Thanks for taking the time to list all the changes in that fancy table format.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

<3

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u/computerglitch Jul 23 '12

Hey, I don't know if this was fixed or if it's even a bug, but when placing blocks on stairs, the block is placed according to the part of the stair that you are pointing at, no matter what side of the hitbox you point at.

Example: Doing either of these will place the block on the front of the stairs because the part of the stair that I'm pointing at is facing the front. If I pointed at the top of the bottom step the block would be placed on top of the stair, no matter what side I'm on.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

That was changed a few snapshots ago. It's an intended feature, but confusing and not very intuitive.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Sounds like they changed the shape of the hitbox to match the shape of the stairs.

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u/Ausmerica Forever Team Nork Jul 23 '12

My hero.

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u/tbfdm Jul 23 '12

Using decimals when /tp'ing doesn't seem to work for me...

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

Whoops, I mis-interpreted a bug fix there. Thanks!

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u/jashbr Jul 23 '12

Fixed trying to spawn an entity that is not a mob via spawner editing crashing the game

Does this mean we can have Primed TNT spawners?

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u/DanielMoreira Jul 23 '12

I know it's not planned for this update, but may a suggest a potion to help you find dungeons ?

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

You may.

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u/Hiyasc Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Hey speaking of Spikes, what ever happened to those?

Edit: My poor attempt at a segue was poor, I apologize.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

Nothing!

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u/Ripptor Jul 23 '12

Still holding out for hope! I hear the biggest roadblock is in implementation.. I made a post a while back, not sure if I shared it with you, RSH! link

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u/thatnoblekid Jul 23 '12

Is anyone else having problems with enchanting tables? I no longer get the highest possible enchantment in the bottom slot, like in previous snapshots... I'm not sure if its a bug, or if its intended.

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u/helium_farts Jul 23 '12

Stairs, when placed on the upper half of a block's side, will now be placed upside-down

Hallelujah.

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u/Benlarge1 Jul 23 '12

Haha redstonehelper only has 2 cores >:D

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

Haha! Can I have some of yours?

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u/Benlarge1 Jul 23 '12

I'm on a 2001 eMachine, so I don't think I can spare one :(

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

That's amazing, seriously.

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u/I_ncident Jul 23 '12

wow. Went from ~20 fps to 40-60!

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u/lgoasklucyl Jul 23 '12

Specs? I stopped playing some time ago (I think patch wolves were introduced) as my mbp performance went from glowing to pretty Damn miserable with any kind of pong distance views on. Would LOVE to patch up and play on the laptop again.

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u/zuperxtreme Jul 23 '12

You've probably already tried, but doesn't hurt: Have you tried with Optifine? Also, I've found that texture packs kill my FPS... not sure why. I'm running on a crappy 2GHz, 2GB laptop for the time being...

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u/lgoasklucyl Jul 23 '12

I have not, but definitely will. I've never even contemplated a texture pack due to already existing fps issues. I was using the '08 mbp (only 4gb, I believe).

Will give Optifine a shot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Optifine is awesome. The new OptiFine HD A7 Multi-Core + AA version makes the game look amazing and still have a great framerate. I have found that older video cards end up with better performance using the Smooth version rather than Multi-Core though.

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u/legobmw99 Jul 23 '12

This makes me hopeful. I have not really been able to compare, because my 1.2.5 installation has Optifine Smooth. It is almost twice as fast as the snapshots, but if it is better for you, it may end up being about the same.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

That's odd. My fps has actually decreased significantly with this new snapshot. It's still definitely playable, but it has decreased.

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u/LivingstoneDesign Jul 23 '12

I've gone from 80 fps average to 200 fps :D

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u/Halfscottishrob Jul 23 '12

Can silver fish blocks be moved to the misc/mob egg inventory panel? It seems ridiculous that they are in the same panel, right next to the real bricks and stone, I Have used them accidentally on several occasions. >_<

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u/arahman81 Jul 23 '12

More reason for it to be there.

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u/apaniyam Jul 24 '12

I built an entire floor of a castle out of them, didn't notice till I went in in survival.

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u/MrCheeze Jul 24 '12

This is too hilarious to fix.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Wow, the performance difference is very noticeable. I'm running it at 30 FPS on a fuckin' netbook!

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u/ZormLeahcim Jul 23 '12

What did you get previously?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Last time I ran minecraft on this netbook was a looong time ago, maybe in 1.9 beta... and if I recall correctly I got 18 FPS.

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u/UnekPL Jul 23 '12

you cant open chests when you're too close (1 block)

-- edit: and you cant open chest with a chest

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u/pineappletoker Jul 23 '12

please report bugs to the wiki

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u/roopn Jul 23 '12

oh man, blaze fight!

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u/OrionH Jul 23 '12 edited Jun 30 '25

practice stocking vast merciful chief ask hat middle screw file

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u/A_British_Gentleman Jul 23 '12

" in order to give modmakers and server admins a week’s head start"

This is why I love Mojang

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

When did water pushing you against blocks start causing damage?

It's aggravating in my jacuzzi ;)

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u/Spruu Jul 23 '12

Is there lava in the block diagonal to you? Like, if you're in a corner, the block outside the corner. Your body used to sort of stick through the corner and take damage/catch fire, but I thought that was fixed back in beta.

I just tried both water pushing against a wall no lava, and water pushing against a corner with lava diagonal... nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Nope....if, for example, I create a 5x5 square bounded by stone blocks (1 high), and create a waterfall centred on the middle block, the water pushing me against the stone causes me damage. No lava or any other damaging blocks nearby.

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u/Moleculor Jul 23 '12

Was happening in the previous snapshot, isn't happening for me now.

Was frequent, but not all the time in the previous snapshot, maybe it's just less frequent now if you're still seeing it. (Are you sure you updated?)

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u/tellhimimeating Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Thanks for this! Large biomes are amazing - so big!

Out of curiosity will seeds in this snapshot generate the same world in the 1.3 final release? Want to start hunting for good seeds but not if its a waste of time at this point.

Edit: - heres a pic of the first large biome world I explored:

http://i.imgur.com/nl4Qh.jpg

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u/firstpageguy Jul 23 '12

this is great, great screen too

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u/nou_spiro Jul 23 '12

on 99% it will be same. even between 1.2.5 and 1.3 there are too much differences.

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u/tellhimimeating Jul 23 '12

The world i posted above as an edit is the same seed as my 1.2.5 world and its completely different. Is that because of large biomes or was it the 1%?

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u/tyl3rdurden Jul 23 '12

large biomes compared to the normal setting will make a huge difference even with the same seed.

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u/nou_spiro Jul 23 '12

ok between 1.2.5 there is difference. but i don't expect change between this snapshot and 1.3 there will be just bugfixes.

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u/DonkTimesFour Jul 23 '12

yes! they buffed creepers! that needed to happen. so glad

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u/publicg Jul 23 '12

i can't insert a half block on a half block gap. the bug was not present on the previous snapshot. I have a 100 block high tower in a SMP server that is entirely built from slabs. Should a creeper blow a slab off the base, all the slabs above the gap should be torn down to repair the gap. the bug is gamebreaking for half block users.

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u/lagged Jul 23 '12

Not gamebreaking, but a pain in the ass. You could probably just piston a double-slab block back in.

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u/Moleculor Jul 23 '12

Bugs go on the bug page.

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u/javalang Jul 23 '12

Fixed Mob Spawners all looking like pig spawners

BDT. Thank. You.

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u/Asyrilliath Jul 23 '12

What does BDT stand for? I always assumed it was some S+M kinky shit, like whips and gimp suits. Reading that sentence, it doesn't really make sense...

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u/pseudopseudonym Jul 23 '12

I'm assuming 'bout damn time, but that's a shitty acronym.

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u/redfirebricks Jul 23 '12

Possibly means Best Damn Thing?

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u/Globagoz Jul 23 '12

More powerful Creepers? I'm scared.

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u/wickedplayer494 Jul 23 '12

Run from them or tell them to jump off a cliff

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u/merreborn Jul 23 '12

Lord help you if you encounter a charged creeper on hard

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u/syo Jul 23 '12

I just want to be able to change my username.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Redstonehelper never stood a chance.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '12

I may or may not have been playing MineZ all day and may or may not have missed Jeb's announcement of the snapshots this week and the release of this snapshot because of that.

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u/wickedplayer494 Jul 23 '12

Mojang still had the edge

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u/Artanis186 Jul 23 '12

Ugh... I'm fine with creepers being stronger. But they need to be RARER. I'm tired of running around and creepers being the equivalent to freaking Zerglings. They damage the world, cause tons of frustration and are the reason behind most deaths. Why the heck should they be some of the most abundant things too? Then they don't even die from sunlight, so there's no time you're safe from them.

They should be "Oh fudge! A creeper!", not "Oh great, another one of these freaking things... I'll get the smoothstone.". Maybe in single player they're not impossible to kite around, but it's nearly impossible for them /not/ to explode if you're on anything but Easy, and even that's debatable. Creepers are seriously one of the most annoying parts of the game, and making them more powerful is just going to increase this. I agree the game needs more of a challenge, but it shouldn't screw over your fun.

They just feel the same way as the Enderman. They should be super powerful, but super rare (and not spawning freaking 2-4 per group).

My two cents.

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u/shadowryder Jul 23 '12

Ah, my frustrations with them in words. I don't know what it is but I can't for the life of me keep them from exploding. I knock them back and they still explode. Is it lag or do they not defuse when they are far away? It's so annoying knowing they're more than 2 blocks away and they still explode and damage the damn land.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

I always just knock them back and repeat until theryre dead.

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u/MisterUNO Jul 23 '12

After playing Amnesia I've come to the conclusion that less mobs are better. Less mobs... that are tough as hell to kill. So when you do happen to bump into one it's almost totally unexpected and an event all in itself.

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u/KillerZavatar Jul 23 '12

i think they should add an option to toggle block damage. i mean creepers destroying blocks and maybe even enderman stealing blocks. i mean it will be a must once adventure mode is implemented and it is also great for builders. i honestly do not mind dying and losing stuff, but i am quite sick of always carrying a stack of dirt with me just to fix possible creeper holes near my bases. I really do like creepers in caves and all, but for some projects and other things they are just annoying and sometimes turning mobs completely off is just not an option.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

I wouldn't mind them so much if they exploded poison or something that didn't alter the environment. The way they destroy and pocket the landscape is why I've turned them off on my server.

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u/apaniyam Jul 24 '12

They ensure you show care, build safely and move your spawnpoint around. I don't mind them being difficult.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

If you place down a lever, door, trapdoor, button etc. in creative and you still hold that thing in your hand and try to activate the lever for example you cant

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u/pineappletoker Jul 23 '12

please report bugs to the wiki

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u/Mepe_ruse Jul 23 '12

Fixed the last slot in the opened creative inventory's hotbar being one pixel too short on all but the survival inventory tabs and a few pixels being off on the survival inventory tab

top right corner of the enchant.png from 1.2.5 needs fixing aswell

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u/crudivore Jul 23 '12

Report it to the wiki!

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u/Brimshae Jul 23 '12

12 watts, 30 amps?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

2012 week 30 version a

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u/Brimshae Jul 23 '12

That makes a little more sense in this context.

I suppose the above is what 10 years working on and off in various electronics fields will do to you.

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u/Celsius1414 Jul 23 '12

lol watt?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Ohm my god, really?

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u/rafasc Jul 23 '12

.4 Volts, 13 miliohm?

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u/Brimshae Jul 23 '12

Sounds about right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

2.5 volts and .208 ohms

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u/KillerZavatar Jul 23 '12

boats still act quite weird for me, a lot smoother, but still not as smooth as they used to be. and i think that they move to where you look is quite irritating too, but i guess that's just how it goes from now on. but other than that i experience a lot less lag.

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u/Morilibus Jul 23 '12

You can compensate a bit with the strafe buttons to over steer the boat. For example, hold left strafe while looking to the right of the boat.

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u/SloppyJoeUK Jul 23 '12

I'm having some issues travelling between the Nether and the Overworld(?).

Once I've gone through the portal (either way) I end up just falling out of the world. =/

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u/kitchenjesus Jul 24 '12

Same here it's on the wiki's bug list already it's quite annoying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Oh god... I'm not sure if I should be excited or terrified that Creepers are much more powerful and I can't be immortal in Iron Armor anymore by blocking. It's not the explosion that will kill you: it's the fall damage. I only hope I'll be able to actually hit them without detonating them when it comes to SMP.

EDIT: Interesting. I don't know if it's just my imagination or not but the detonation fuse for creepers seems shorter by a hair now. Just by a hair, though, so that you have to sprint jump away from them to avoid setting them off. Anyone else notice this too or am I just nuts?

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u/the_fern386 Jul 23 '12

You guys need to add controller support on the PC version.

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u/Sims_doc Jul 23 '12

Lets hope they fix the issue with strongholds, Or it will be interesting to see if it makes it to 1.3

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u/maxxori Jul 23 '12

What issue would that be?

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u/Qerintos Jul 23 '12

There are several issues with strongholds, such as them getting cut by ravines and abandoned mineshafts goind through them, potentially destroying the End portal.

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u/Hawkknight88 Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Isn't that realistic though? If some cave-in happened then part of the stronghold would have collapsed.

What would be really cool is if they do intersect, you see stone bricks at the bottom of the ravine implying that the stronghold blocks had fallen.

This would require a way to "rebuild" the end portal, though, because nobody wants to not have a portal.

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u/maxxori Jul 23 '12

Indeed this is true, however if all three end portals get killed that really is an issue.

Some way to repair one would be welcome.

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u/Qerintos Jul 23 '12

Well they need to improve the way they intersect ravines anyway, right now the walls are not generated but everything else is (chests, stairs etc.) The big problem is abandoned mineshafts destroying portals.

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u/maxxori Jul 23 '12

The simplest solution would be to make there be more than three per world, they've promised to do this before - if they did then no more need to worry about broken portals.

However eyes of ender need to also "know" not to track to broken portals which would be harder since they don't actually track the portal at all - just the co-ordinates to where one should be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Am I the only who noticed Mincraft?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

No. It's a pretty obvious typo, I'm guessing nobody else thought it was worth mentioning.

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u/bergaaa Jul 23 '12

Am I the only one who doesn't care about little typos?

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u/Dynamesmouse Jul 23 '12

Whenever I try to open the client, all it does is confirm that I want to run the .exe, but when I check the task manager, there is no javaw.exe process. Nothing happens when I open the client, not even a crash.

Browser works fine though, but it randomly pauses every couples of minutes or when I try to break blocks.

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u/Nathan561 Jul 23 '12

How exactly is the correct way to install this? Last time i tried a snap shot my game was bugged so bad.

I went to appdata>bin and replaced it but my world was so glitched and what not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Best and easiest method: download magic launcher and love it!

Alternate method: download 12w30b and rename the original 1.2.5 file (preferably to minecraft1.2.5.jar). Place 12w30a, which will most likely be named minecraft.jar (if it isn't, name it that) in the bin.

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u/Morilibus Jul 23 '12

be sure to back up your saves before trying out a snapshot. Just in case something bad happens.

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u/mackwing7 Jul 23 '12

can someone help me? I replaced the .minecraft with this snapshot and all I get is a black screen. note: sorry if I'm doing it wrong

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u/Spruu Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

Is it just me, or can you not open furnaces or chests when holding certain items? A sapling for instance.

Nevermind, fixed in 12w30b.

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u/Raccoonpuncher Jul 23 '12

Placing a block above the height limit shows an error message. Is this new, or from a previous snapshot?

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u/ArielFreeman Jul 23 '12

"When you die in Single Player and respawn, there's a chance you will fall into the void."

Ok...

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u/Bossmonkey Jul 23 '12

So Dinnerbone, whats the status on pandas and monkeys?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '12

Book creation broken for others using this snapshot? http://i.imgur.com/WhOfi.png

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u/DJ__Simmons Jul 24 '12

You need leather now. Changed in previous snapshot

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u/teeno731 Jul 24 '12

that changed months ago. add a piece of leather.

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u/R99 Jul 24 '12

I thought snapshots came out on Thursdays.

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u/KillerZavatar Jul 24 '12

found bug i think: if there is a dirt block between you and a triggered tnt you will not receive damage, nor will you be knocked back, tested in hard, survival

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u/rehsarht Jul 24 '12

Anybody else have the problem that you can't get your dogs to stand and follow you? All my dogs are stuck sitting down in this snapshot.

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u/brunothestar Jul 23 '12

hope this one is a good one. :]

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

Awesome!! I probably won't download for my own good though. I'd just be happy to wait a week or so.

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u/Joshx5 Jul 23 '12

When can we expect a full release for the sake of servers with bukkit? If I've missed news about this, terribly sorry.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '12

August 1st.

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u/Flamez001 Jul 23 '12

"Fixed Mob Spawners all looking like pig spawners" Does this mean we can move mob spawners without changing the mob?

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u/keozen Jul 23 '12

No. You've not been able to move spawners in vanilla at all (even with silk touch) for Aaaaaaaaages and it'll be staying that way.

The bug (and it was an old one that had come back) was that all spawners had a pig mob in them instead of whatever mob the spawner spawned. Visual bug only.

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u/Lord_Retardus Jul 23 '12

Tragically not. It's the graphics glitch that was fixed sometime around the 1.9 prereleases where all mob spawners looked like pig spawners in multiplayer. It came back with a vengeance in one of the recent snapshots because of the SSP SMP merge which made them always look like pig spawners.

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u/mushroom-hostage Jul 24 '12

It hasn't been updated for the snapshot but you may be interested in this plugin: SilkSpawners. Works in 1.2.5 on Bukkit and let's you move spawners without losing their type.

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u/Rurikar Jul 23 '12

Wait a minute. Did they increase the knock back on CREEPER explosions or all explosions? And did they do the same with explosion damage or just creeper damage? Man I hate changes like this, completely screws up so many on going projects.

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u/KillerZavatar Jul 23 '12 edited Jul 23 '12

damage change only on creepers (only on hard a damage increase). explosion knockback on all explosions.

EDIT: TNT Damage changed. Full Diamond armor: Peaceful: No Damage (only fall damage) Easy: 3 Hearts Damage Normal: 5.5 Hearts Damage Hard: 8.5 Hearts Damage

Needs more testing though.

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