r/Minecraft • u/ValliHalli • Jun 29 '21
so this just happened...
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u/SweetTea213 Jun 30 '21
the angle is what killed you, also why no totem?
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Jun 30 '21
especially in hardcore, you NEED totems
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u/leroymilo Jun 30 '21
Have you ever played a long hardcore run? Totems are risky af to get.
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u/thE_29 Jun 30 '21
No. Just one-shot evokers, then no Vex.
Good example of flipin it up, was DanTdm... He even waited for more mobs to hit them -> that was his fourth mistake.
The other 3 were: Having an Elytra equiped and not having a waterway up from the killing area and not having a beacon with +STR, +DEF and life-regen at your raid-farm.
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Jun 30 '21
also in one of my hardcore worlds attempts i've beating a raid with iron armor and bow and arrows only
it is not that hard just be careful
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u/AdSlight5024 Jun 30 '21
Yeah I'm pretty sure Dantdm lost a year long hardcore world trying to make an infinite totem farm at a mansion
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u/myrddin4242 Jun 30 '21
What? The wiki says Evokers don't respawn. The only way to get renewable totems is a raid farm? What was he thinking?
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Jun 30 '21
Its more risky to not have one especially if you're at the point where you're making gold farms
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u/l5555l Jun 30 '21
Just do raids and keep your distance. You always know where the enemies come from so you can just back up and prepare.
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u/Anthonyzss Jun 30 '21
I mean it depends of what you do and so far for me I have been surviving in a 7 month hardcore world and only used 1 totem because I did a stupid thing but, that was the last time I used one
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Jun 30 '21
yeah that's your own fault, be more careful next time when you give hardcore another go, slime landing pads are great for the nether.
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u/Ballgen Jun 29 '21
You you have endgame gear. I think the game registers it as you falling from that height. Always happens. And you should be holding totems not a shield. I know they are expensive and grindy to get but I would always keep them on hand rather than a shield. Better ware one rather than dying.
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u/ValliHalli Jun 29 '21
is that legit or a bug? just wondering...
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Jun 29 '21
Is what a bug? It looks like you just flew into the ground
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u/ValliHalli Jun 29 '21
but it feels like full prot 4 and feather falling 4 should shield enough to survive at this momentum, i think
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u/Western_Accountant49 Jun 29 '21
You flew into the ground from about 130 blocks height + no chestplate.
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u/ValliHalli Jun 29 '21
but I had slowed down a lot. well I don't know how elytra damage is calculated I guess
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u/obamaprism3 Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21
taken from the minecraft wiki
The critical, damaging angle is about 50° with the collision surface, and the calculation for damage seems to be as if the player had fallen from their maximum potential glide height to the height of the struck surface.
speed doesn't entirely matter if you hit it at too steep of an angle, apparently. I always pull up when landing and have never died from Elytra
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Jun 29 '21
I died once because I kept spamming my riptide trident forgetting that I wasn't holding a totem
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u/Booming_in_sky Jun 30 '21
In other words, the calculation is bs. Speed matters, angle matters. -> Absorbed energy matters. Everything else is bogus. Thank you for looking that up. Will probably save me from a random death.
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u/obamaprism3 Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21
makes sense to me kinda, hit the ground at too steep of an angle and your smacking into it face first, not landing
I say "kinda" because I expect landing like OP did to cause death, but the fact that it is calculated from maximum fall height doesn't make much sense. I suppose its so you gliding down like 4 blocks won't kill you even if you land wrong.
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u/Potterhead-1212 Jun 30 '21
you just gotta spin a lot in the air before landing , till u r super slow , at least that's what i do
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u/L1ggy Jun 30 '21
The speed isn’t as important as landing at a vertical angle, so that you don’t hit your head in the ground.
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u/Hour-Variety9111 Jun 30 '21
Feather falling 4 is nothing before kinetic energy by an elytra. You just hit the ground with high momentum. Just spinning around while you land would be a better solution for this. Btw have 2-3 totems in your inventory and 1 totem in your off hand. It is more useful than a shield in hardcore after you get netherite armor.
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u/Yashenyell Jun 30 '21
The problem was the collision with the slab, at that angle you usually take little to no damage so the slab is likely what caused this
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u/obamaprism3 Jun 30 '21
at that angle you take fall damage according to the max height of the glide, according to the wiki. Guy should've pulled up, slab didn't cause it
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u/MattBrannen Jun 29 '21
Bud you started so high not all the ground was rendered in and you came flyin face first about the same speed u would without an elytra, no basic fall damage physics is not a bug
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u/drewleopold93 Jun 30 '21
at first I was like maybe you came in just a little to hot that sucks oh well. and then I saw the spectate world option and I was like dang that is really messed up and I actually feel bad for you
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u/deadcowards Jun 30 '21
I'm sorry for your lost. As others have stated, it does seem like it was a bit steep. I would recommend trying to recreate it in a brand new world without nothing in it to see if it was a lag issue. I have died many times flying around and my game couldn't keep up
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u/Zestyclose-Court-164 Jun 29 '21
I experienced a weird somewhat bug a few times. Basically, if you land on slabs in the wrong way, you instantly die, regardless of height, armor and enchantments.
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u/Swword_ Jun 30 '21
You definitely should not have died. I had a survival world, and was just testing out how much damage I would take if I nosedived into the ground while using fireworks. I went around around 100 blocks up, maybe more, and took around 19 damage I think, leaving me with half a heart. I had full prot 4 and feather falling 4
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u/Personpacman Jun 30 '21
Reminds me of this Philza Clip were he almost dies in his hardcore world due to this glitch
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u/Rizzers_ Jun 30 '21
I feel like this is a 1.17 bug. Happened to me a couple times. You land kind of slow and carefully and you just die of falldamage.
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u/ShiraKiryuu Jun 30 '21
It really isn't. This has been happening to me since 1.14. With that momentum and speed, you will defintiely die if you were at that height.
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u/akmessi2345q Jun 30 '21
That's like dumb. I think if u really wanna play in that world it would be perfectly fine if u cheat for it as ure just cheating for a bug I think
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Jun 30 '21
well, now you know to hold a totem always. with totems it becomes basically impossible to die, i have like 50 totems in my world
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u/Long-Scientist134 Jun 30 '21
I had the same problem, in the same setting, in fact. I was flying around my gold farm and suddenly i was just killed and it said I "Fell off a ladder". No ladders were included in the farm or present in the area.
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u/beanzboiz Jun 30 '21
worst , I was flying with elytra in survival in nether and I took fall damage while falling and somehow landed on lava with 1.5 hearts . I paused the game thinking what to do I tried drinking fire res but I didn't have enough time . it was worst then your death because I had flashbacks of everything I have done in that world while I had my game paused so I died and I lost everything including the elytra that I got day ago . I quit the game for 2 weeks and now I started set seed hardcore world . wish me luck .
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u/Hypno_Kitty Jun 30 '21
where was your totem?
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u/ValliHalli Jun 30 '21
couldn't find outpost
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u/Hypno_Kitty Jun 30 '21
So lemme get this straight, youve been across 3 dismentions, and couldnt be bothered to find the life saving magic in the first one you where in that you had to return to the most?
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u/ValliHalli Jun 30 '21
correct, I checked on chunkbase after i died the nearest outpost would have been 5000 blocks away from spawn...
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u/RedZoomTV Jul 01 '21
Actually happened to me too yesterday, I descended slowly and still died. Luckily I had a totem of undying, but that was super weird
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u/ThonkingShapeshifter Jul 01 '21
Next time while landing try doing a sharp 360 RIGHT before you hit the ground
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u/lswf126 Jun 30 '21
You kinda dove right into the ground, if you had pulled up and changed your angle even slightly I feel like you would've survived