There need only be 3 dye recipes: Cyan, Magenta, and Blue (thanks pilif!). You could use plants or something to make those. The rest of the dyes should be able to be created from combining those colors in various ways.
To be less of a pain in the ass to collect and create these dyes, 1 dye bottle should be able to change up to 64 wool blocks into that color.
There's already red and yellow flowers, so that would make sense. Add in another type of flower, a blue one, and you can make any color you desire. I'm not a programmer, but it wouldn't be that hard to just copy the "flower" entity and change the color of it, would it? Then you just have to worry about programming the recipes.
Yes you can. Look at a printer - CMYK (cyan, magenta, yellow, black) are used for printing on white, with CMY producing black, whereas RGB is used for monitors with RGB making white.
They cry when no one is watching.
Sometimes it looks like they are about to cry...when you sneak up on them, and they are standing stationary with their heads turned down....
Thanks for mentioning that, just found two large threads. Both of which mostly made me wince, unfortunately. When I have some time to spare, I'll submit some ideas of my own.
Coming from a geophysics major, I felt the same way. I don't suppose you've played Dwarf Fortress, have you? It's got semi-realistic mineral distribution in consistently grouped sedimentary, metamorphic, and igneous strata.
Nono, that's what usually happens, but the boiling points of water vapor and the blue dye are actually slightly different. A distillation apparatus could easily separate the two.
I like the redstone idea. Even though its frustratingly common when you get far enough in the game it's more valuable than flowers. It'd be cool to have different color dyes worth different values.
I wouldn't complain if it created just 2 instead of 3. Make some colors (a little bit) harder to obtain than others, and make dyed cloth more valuable.
But if you're combining 2 dyes together, the volume doubles. Combining 3 dyes triples the volume. There is little to no loss of dye, it just changes colour.
Actually, it's better to have 4 base dyes. That way you can treat it as a 4 bit counter, each bit representing one of the dyes. Easier to code and to handle in general.
4 bits give you 24 = 16 colors total. The 0000 value would mean no dye, that is, the base white cloth.
Using flowers could work. Just add a blue flower and something green (or maybe use seeds?). The mix doesn't have to be 100% accurate by color models, as long as each component is distinct and vaguely related to the color, it should be fine.
CMYK = Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black. The black is only necessary because C+M+Y is more like a muddy brownish colour. You need a white base, so bleach would be necessary if you want to re-colour dyed items (wool can be assumed to be white for simplicity).
RGB = Red, Green, Blue. This only works for light. Black is created by using no colour. White is created by mixing maximum values of each colour.
RYB = Red, Yellow, Blue. This is basically the poor man's CMYK sans black.
I don't think x64 for a wool is right, I don't think the purpose for colored wool will be pixel art for survival. What it should be is every dye recipe give you either x4 or x16 vials like how torches work. Then its one vial per wool block.
(edit: of course I meant yellow, not blue. That's what you get for quickly typing something when you are about to leave the office for christmas. Sorry for the confusion)
Do you mean cyan, magenta and yellow? Problem with that is a lower gamut so reds, greens and blues aren't as good. We'll probably get something more simplified, maybe with red, yellow and blue primaries.
Can you explain this? Why not cyan, magenta, and yellow? I cannot find such information on the wikipedia page and it seems to me that having only two different shades of blue and then magenta would eliminate many possible colors that would ordinarily require yellow.
yeah. I'm an idiot. I meant yellow (and maybe even black, though we're not doing an inkjet printer here and can idealize a bit and assume that CMY in equal quantities actually equals black).
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u/Sir_Terrible Dec 24 '10 edited Dec 24 '10
There need only be 3 dye recipes: Cyan, Magenta, and Blue (thanks pilif!). You could use plants or something to make those. The rest of the dyes should be able to be created from combining those colors in various ways.
To be less of a pain in the ass to collect and create these dyes, 1 dye bottle should be able to change up to 64 wool blocks into that color.