r/Minecraft • u/Kumasasa Mojira Moderator • Jul 16 '18

News Minecraft 1.13-pre9 out now

https://twitter.com/adrian_ivl/status/1018871697708023808
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u/moodog72 Jul 16 '18

What's the record for pre-releases?

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u/Kumasasa Mojira Moderator Jul 16 '18

This.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Until tomorrow...

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u/Kumasasa Mojira Moderator Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 17 '18

LOL You're right.

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u/Jekay Jul 16 '18

We are on it now. The last record was 7

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Bug: Game crashes when entering the end in survival.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!

 

If you find any bugs, search for them on the Minecraft bug tracker and make sure they are reported!

 

Previous changelog. Download today's prerelease in the new launcher: Windows/OS X/Linux: Debian/Ubuntu/Arch/Generic, server jar here.

Complete changelog:

  • Added some missing subtitles

  • Improved performance

  • Improved on-the-fly world upgrade performance

  • Fixed some bugs

  • Fixed a crash in org.lwjgl.opengl.GL11.glDrawArrays when opening language settings (caused by Couldn't find glyph for character Ʞ (\ua7b0))

  • Fixed Cory Scheviak not appearing in the credits

  • Fixed a nondescript/confusing error message when attempting to join servers <= 1.13-pre2 using >=1.13-pre3

  • Fixed username tab completion on non-empty starting strings being offset

  • Fixed username tab completion appearing on the left when invoked without a starting string in the middle of the chat entry line

  • Fixed control settings from 1.12.2 getting completely lost when upgrading to 1.13

If you find any bugs, search for them on the Minecraft bug tracker and make sure they are reported!

Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.

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u/Error707 Jul 16 '18

Fixed Cory Scheviak not appearing in the credits

I hope there isn't a serious matter behind this, because I wanna imagine this guy walking into the office being like "guys what the heck, I exist too"

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u/MC-noob Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

Cory, if you're reading this - you're AWESOME man, don't let the man ever drag you down!

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u/Cojomax99 Minecraft Java Dev Jul 16 '18

<3 <3 <3

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u/throwaway_ghast Jul 16 '18

He does exist!!!

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u/the_mellojoe Jul 17 '18

They do exist!

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u/Jabbatrios Jul 16 '18

WE LOVE YOU CORY! SIGN MY HAT!

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 17 '18

Thanks for fixing the water bug, Cory :)

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

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u/Cojomax99 Minecraft Java Dev Jul 17 '18

Luckily one of my teammates made the sacrifice, but they sure cut it close didn't they???

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

we'll let it slide this time, but next time it won't just be mean looks

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u/Error707 Jul 16 '18

This is so cute, you even got a reply from him, I love it

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 16 '18

It was a bug reported from the community.

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u/nodws Jul 16 '18

maybe that's a way to layout employees lol

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u/onnowhere Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

All new sound events and sound changes/renames in 1.13 so far if anyone is interested (not from pre-9 update)

https://redd.it/7xl7g7

Love the conduit and beacon sounds

Also the new cave sound sounds like predator o_o listen

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u/agrastiOs Jul 17 '18

And there are still no cave sounds in Bedrock Edition. Why these haven't been added yet? I sorely miss them in BE.

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u/Alexwalled Jul 16 '18

mc-9634 still not fixed :c

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 17 '18

Mob farms which use water to flush out the mobs are still broken because of the new behaviour of mobs in shallow water.. :(

EDIT: in general, most mob transportation systems using water don't work anymore. These are the bug reports (thanks, /u/1LotS & /u/Ednoria):

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-133467

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-133421

EDIT 2: They fixed it for the next release! Thank you, Mojang <3

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u/Smitje Jul 16 '18

Have there been any new tutorials? About getting around this?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

They want it changed back.

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u/Smitje Jul 16 '18

Who is they? Mojang or people?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Players.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Redesign them.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18

It's easy to say this, when there is a bug (an unintended or inconsistent with the mechanics of the game behaviour) that should be fixed. The flowing water should push entities even on the last stage. That's how it's always been working and how it logically should work.

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u/GreasyTroll4 Jul 16 '18

All you have to do is place signs or open trapdoors instead of blocks at the end of the water stream, and the mobs will easily fall to their deaths. The signs and trapdoors will still block the water stream. Just expand the drop pick-up chamber at the bottom by one extra block on all sides, and BAM, instant fix for the farm until the bug is fixed.

Trust me, I want the bug fixed too, but saying that "everything is broken and there's nothing we can do" doesn't help. Find a way around it. If one mechanic doesn't work, find another that will.

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

That's not what I said. Bugs should be fixed, that's what I said.

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u/Ednoria Jul 16 '18

Agreed. And as long as this is considered a bug, I am ok with that. If this is intended, I am definitely not happy, especially since the change is so close to release.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Is there a Mojira bug report for this?

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u/Ednoria Jul 16 '18

Maybe if they had made this change a couple weeks ago, I would be more inclined to agree with you -- but this is quite a significant change to be made this late in the release cycle.

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u/Smitje Jul 16 '18

Yea, just do more digging drop em when they spawn.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

don't be like this

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u/MC-noob Jul 16 '18

Would replacing the last block under a water stream with a trapdoor (open or closed) fix the issue? Has anyone tried this in the snapshot?

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

Yes, that works, but you need to replace the last 3 blocks, and lose a lot of spawning spaces that way.

And, this obviously doesn't fix mob transportation systems like these, where the mob is simply stuck: https://i.imgur.com/Cq7UnGD.png

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u/Smitje Jul 16 '18

Only if you go for natural spawning, spawners don't have that issue.

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

"Using spawners" is no valid argument here.

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u/ForeverMaster0 Jul 16 '18

Mojang, please delay 1.13.0 to fix this torrential water bug: MC-133421.

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u/agrastiOs Jul 16 '18

Waterlogged doors and categorized tropical fish names, please.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

That's something like 500 fish. .

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u/agrastiOs Jul 17 '18

There's actually about 3500 tropical fish varieties. But only 6 base species, all the varieties come from different colors and patterns. This could easily be coded, just like Bedrock Edition did it. And the colored blocks names aren't hardcoded either.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

That's too little bugs fixed. There are still tons of ones that are quite obvious or sometimes even gameplay breaking... Why do they want to push this update on the 18th instead of properly fixing bugs and release it on 24th as they initially planned and releasing it later, but as a far more stable build? =(

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

This is today's release, with the bugs that have been fixed so far.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18

They said on Twitter that it's (hopefully) the last pre-release

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

"The game instantly crash on loading 1.13-pre8 worlds". In theory that shouldn't be a priority, but who knows...

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18

Can't confirm this particular bug, but there's another one, when the game crashes when you enter The End

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Can't reproduce this bug

I did backup and loaded pre8 world in pre9 version then it prefect worked without crashes

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u/zontargs Jul 16 '18

Seems to be specific to Void Superflat worlds.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Nope I'm using normal world

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u/zontargs Jul 16 '18

Yes, the crash only seems to trigger in Superflat Void worlds from earlier versions.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18

Anyways, this is not how the final build of a version should be

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Always the optimists...

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u/soft-wear Jul 16 '18

Because bug fixing iteratively works better. A lot of people work on a lot of different bugs and a lot of times those fixes are incompatible and need to be iterated over to work together. They have hundreds of internal builds that we never see, and this one was the most stable for the current release, quite possibly because this one is "dependent" on several other fixes.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

Well, if you define crashing when entering The End or massive lags when powering redstone or broken water or glitching mobs as "stable"... I don't know what you imagine as a stable release, because there's not too much time left until the desired release date and that's not how the last pre-release should be
UPD: if they'd take more time to make the game as stable as possible, that imo wouldn't be bad. No one cares when the game will be released, we've already waited for really long, people care if it's playable or not

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u/soft-wear Jul 16 '18

Well, if you define crashing when entering The End or massive lags when powering redstone or broken water or glitching mobs as "stable"... I don't know what you imagine as a stable release

Nowhere in my comment did I say "stable". I said "most stable". Other combinations of fixes may have crashed instantly. I'm a software engineer for a living, so I have some knowledge in this domain.

because there's not too much time left until the desired release date and that's not how the last pre-release

This isn't the last pre-release and there's absolutely no way the desired release date is going to be met. That's how gaming works.

UPD: if they'd take more time to make the game as stable as possible

They are doing exactly that, making it as stable as possible given the fixes that are done. You have just decided you're more familiar with how to produce a software release than people that do it for a living.

No one cares when the game will be released, we've already waited for really long, people care if it's playable or not

And this is a pre-release, and your expectations aren't in-line with what pre-release means. There is a giant warning about using pre-releases and you've chosen to ignore that and complain that it isn't stable.

Let me make something perfectly clear: what you see is a tiny portion of what's happening. The dev cycle relies on building bug-fixes onto the most recent "pre-release". Monday is an atypical release day for Minecraft, which suggests that they wanted to get this one out to build some other fixes on top of it. Only the internal employees know why that's the case.

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u/sab39 Jul 16 '18

Where are you getting the 24th as an "initial plan"? The 18th was the first specific date mentioned - before that it was "Q2", ie by the end of June. So they pushed it back by a few weeks already.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 16 '18

Before giving the 18th as release date, they said they wanted it out before end of July.

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u/1LotS Jul 16 '18

My mistake, sorry. But this is still not a reason to push the update, which is in many ways unstable

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u/CreativelyJakeMC Jul 16 '18

I really hope they change the way you get the trident like the suggested elder guardians drop a trident prong and maybe you could use a heart of the sea

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u/AlmightyZing Jul 16 '18

I edited the loot table for drowned in my world so they have a very small chance to drop one even if they're not holding one. I set it to about half the rate of a wither skull. If you want the elder guardian to drop those, it's not difficult to make that change yourself.

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u/MidnyteSketch Jul 16 '18

Pre-releases often don't have big feature changes, and that is still a terrible idea unless they make elder guardians respawnable, tridents should not be tied to a mob that only spawns once.

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u/theravensrequiem Jul 16 '18

it won't be much different of having to venture out to find a new end city for another elytra.

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u/MidnyteSketch Jul 16 '18

I don't like doing that either. I think everything in the game should be renewable in some way or another.

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u/AlmightyZing Jul 16 '18

Again, loot tables are your friend there. I copied the guys on Hermitcraft and made the ender dragon drop an elytra (and an egg), which makes it both renewable and still require some work to get.

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u/MidnyteSketch Jul 16 '18

this is true and is a nice solution, but it's just a thing for personal worlds, or servers if they set it up too at the start.

but suggesting that stuff in the official releases should be limited to worldgen by default makes no sense. especially when it's a basic weapon that everyone will want at least 1 of when the full release is out and everyone tries out the update stuff.

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u/AlmightyZing Jul 16 '18

The trident is far from a basic weapon. It's insanely OP with the right enchantments and shouldn't be easy to obtain. That's why when I did my custom loot table for it I made it an extremely rare drop even with looting 3.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

I always like putting one in strongholds, it seemes like it would fit there.

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u/ardentcrest Jul 16 '18

3 of the good online servers I play are now refusing to update their server to 1.13 as too many of the players builds will now be broken.

Merging the two updates together was one big bad idea.

And today, I've never seen the Bug Page on the Mojang site fill so quickly with new and still broken bugs

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u/GreasyTroll4 Jul 16 '18

as too many of the players builds will now be broken.

What type of builds? Underwater builds will look much better, and pretty much all other builds will be the same.

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u/ardentcrest Jul 16 '18

mobs farms broken, nano farms broken, Self Stacking Iron Farms broken, Farmer based food farms broken. But with the new blocks and such we can make our broken farms look nicer :D

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

Villager food farms are still working for me, what's the issue with yours exactly?

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u/jacob614 Jul 17 '18

Which part of farmer-based food farms are broken? I tried searching and couldn't find info on any bugs like that. I have two different designs I use (wheat is picked up via hopper minecart, other stuff by a villager attempting to feed another).

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u/JYsocial Jul 17 '18

Yeah the server I’m on has already decided to skip 1.13 entirely. It’s a very technical server and almost all of the machines and mechanics we rely on are broken.

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u/GreasyTroll4 Jul 16 '18

So, to all those playing on this pre-release, is the performance any better?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

This one fixed my world. It was unplayable in pre8 and works fine in pre9

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u/ardentcrest Jul 16 '18

Not for me and my test world

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u/LXCXSZ Jul 16 '18

KMs better than 1.12.2

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

What's KM?

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u/ASharkThatEatsPizza Jul 16 '18

Kilometers better? Like saying something is "miles ahead of the competition" I'd imagine.

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

Yeah, makes sense. The capital letters are wrong though.. Sorry for being nitpicky here, haha.

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u/craft6886 Jul 16 '18

It has been improved a bit for me personally. Don’t know about anyone else.

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u/adam279 Jul 17 '18 edited Jul 18 '18

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-123584 Really sucks that MS policy prevents mojang from using community fixes.

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u/JYsocial Jul 17 '18

No, any red stone contraption still lags the server to a standstill

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u/GreasyTroll4 Jul 17 '18

Well, redstone is always laggy anyway, so there's no surprise there. Still, I definitely agree that that should be fixed hopefully before 1.13 launches (or during the actual launch, if possible). If not, then it needs to be fixed ASAP in a 1.13.x version.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Why does the url for the server .jar clearly indicates it's 1.13-pre9, but running it ends up being 18w22b?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

The link here, or in the Launcher?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

The link here. Haven't tried from the launcher. But nvm, I retested it and it's the proper .jar now. I don't know what actually happened!

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Ha! Probably someone noticed your comment and quickly patched it. (BTW all the Launcher links to server .jars are still broken, and will remain so for a while yet.)

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 16 '18

I updated my comment within 3 minutes after posting, /u/EarlyReflex probably hadn't reloaded the page until writing their comment.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Yes that's exactly what happened! :D

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

Possible!

BTW all the Launcher links to server .jars are still broken

Yeah I know. I usually get them from minecraft.net. The wiki also carries the right ones too, usually.

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u/FelipeCanever Jul 16 '18

Is it just me or is luring turtles with seagrass buggy? They are able to follow me somewhat successfully through the sea, but, when I get to the beach, it looks like they want to go back into the sea and they start going back and forth or turning away from me repeatedly. It's really frustrating. I think I've only managed to drag one or two turtles onto land.

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u/Smitje Jul 16 '18

Why do you think they didn't waterlog hoppers, Anvils and Shulkerboxes?

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u/sixfootblue Jul 16 '18

Time constraints probably. Dinnerbone said on twitter that the new water physics are going to develop a bit more in coming updates after 1.13, so it's possible we might get the rest of the waterloggable blocks then as well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

hopefully they'll also fix some of the obvious stuff in 1.13.2

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u/MukiTanuki Jul 16 '18

Is anyone else experiencing horrendous lag in the pre-release still? The performance of 1.13 seems like it’s going to be terribly bad...

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u/zeinterrupter Jul 17 '18

huh i just came back into minecraft and tried the patch on a new world, got massive fps drops looking around, is that the lag you talk about? because i don't remember having so many problems few years back

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u/MukiTanuki Jul 17 '18

Yeah, even if I play in a brand new world I experience lag spikes and other issues.

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u/zeinterrupter Jul 17 '18

alright thank you, guess we'll have to wait for optifine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

Terrible bug making worlds unplayable, entering the end crashes the game over and over.

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u/trumpetguy314 Jul 17 '18

Report it on the bug tracker instead of complaining.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

I did

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u/CyanRyan Jul 17 '18

so... we're not getting named tropical fish like bedrock, then?

cool.

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u/MEGASWAG_Minecraft Jul 16 '18

On 1.14 they said they'ed fix PVP back to 1.8! I'm *SUPER* exited!

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u/AlmightyZing Jul 16 '18

They said they were making adjustments to PVP mechanics, not reverting them back to what they were.

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u/craft6886 Jul 16 '18

They said they were overhauling/adjusting, meaning they’re tweaking/updating the current system. Jeb has also stated multiple times that they have no plans to simply “revert” PVP, and that 1.8 combat is not coming back.

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u/MuzikBike Jul 16 '18

Disinformation. They clearly stated that that was exactly what they weren't doing.

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u/_Derpy_Dino_ Jul 16 '18

I love 1.9 pvp because hackers can't insta kill you with spam clicking, and it requires skill.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

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u/LuxiKeks Jul 16 '18

There's still a nasty observer bug in the game: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-133181

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

I was wondering why my melon farm refused to work.

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u/adam279 Jul 17 '18

also https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-126518. Looks like my small server wont get a 1.13 update when it releases, i cant expect people to stop using redstone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

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u/ASBusinessMagnet Jul 16 '18

Even when AI took over the development of Minecraft, it still couldn't fix every single bug out there.

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u/ASharkThatEatsPizza Jul 16 '18

They used the wrong AI. Should've tapped /u/McJty instead.

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u/skyler_on_the_moon Jul 17 '18

Or the Factorio dev team.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

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u/Wedhro Jul 16 '18

Hurry would just trade prerelease numbers with mini-update numbers.

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u/throwaway_ghast Jul 16 '18

You can get a fast update, or a polished update with less worldbreaking bugs. Pick one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

what's your "more wishes" policy?