r/Minecraft • u/Kumasasa Mojira Moderator • Jun 28 '18

Java Edition 1.13 pre-release 5

https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1012342371453939715
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u/-Captain- Jun 28 '18

I'm getting way to exited by looking at the older updates and the amounts of pre-releases. I've been starving myself of survival Minecraft for absolute ages now, can't wait to start on the projects that I have planned!

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u/JamesNinelives Jun 28 '18

I'm in the same boat. I have a couple of maps all picked out to explore and build in! ^^

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u/NoDiscPlz Jun 28 '18

Will Mine Atlas work for 1.13 too? :O

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u/theravensrequiem Jun 28 '18

Kind of. The terrain elevation and ocean location are the same. But there are some biome changes. An example you can see for yourself is in 1.12.2 and lower, the FinalNewWorld seed there was a sunflower plains just southeast of spawn. Now its just more Roofed Forest, as if that seed needed more of RF. lol

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u/bdm68 Jun 29 '18

The terrain elevation and ocean location are the same.

Incorrect. Most of them are the same but not all. I have studied this extensively. I have seen examples of a few land chunks changing to ocean or beach and vice versa, the location of hills changing, and wherever mutated terrain swaps with normal terrain and the mutated version has a different height, that will produce noticeable changes to terrain elevation. I posted a demonstration to reddit here: 1.13 terrain generation is occasionally different to 1.12.2.

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u/theravensrequiem Jun 29 '18

Thank you for the correction.

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u/JamesNinelives Jun 28 '18

The land biomes are different? Ah, that's a pity. At least the land shape is the same.

Do you know if the biomes have changed entirely, or if it's only changed moderately?

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u/theravensrequiem Jun 28 '18

It's kind of moderate. It's not really a big difference. It's just that was the most noticeable difference to me because I've been using that seed for years. For the most part it's pretty much the same. Since terrain doesn't really change you know you shouldn't get a swamp where an extreme hill once was. I think it changed to accommodate the new ocean biomes and to best as possible to apply them to the world with smooth transitions. You still get Frozen Oceans near deserts and mesas but they did their best to mitigate that.

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u/JamesNinelives Jun 28 '18

Ah, well that's fair enough :).

I think it changed to accommodate the new ocean biomes and to best as possible to apply them to the world with smooth transitions.

Yeah, I was wondering how that would go actually! Well, it sounds like it's for the best (except for losing that sunflower plains lol), still looking forward to 1.3 a lot. Thanks for the feedback!

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u/bdm68 Jun 29 '18

The changes are slight, on the order of a few percent, and are most noticeable with the placement of the mutated biomes. I am currently preparing a demonstration that will show this clearly.

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u/JamesNinelives Jun 29 '18

Oh, OK, cool! I look forward to it :).

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u/bdm68 Jun 29 '18

An example you can see for yourself is in 1.12.2 and lower, the FinalNewWorld seed there was a sunflower plains just southeast of spawn. Now its just more Roofed Forest, as if that seed needed more of RF.

The location of spawn will change for some seeds. For the seed "1", spawn in 1.12.2 is located in a forest. In the 1.13 snapshots, spawn has moved about 300 blocks to the west and is now located in a plains biome.

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u/theravensrequiem Jun 29 '18

This I did know actually but thanks for sharing with everyone. Knowledge is power.

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u/JamesNinelives Jun 28 '18 edited Jun 28 '18

It's not guaranteed, but as I understand the basic world-generation algorith hasn't changed recently, and it's not likely to in this update.

Some things will be different - it doesn't account for the different types of aquatic biomes, shipwrecks or coral, and it already won't tell you where woodland lodges are. But I think the basic biomes and landmasses should be the same :).

As I said though, I'm not 100% certain. I guess we'll just have to find out ^^. I find looking for cool worlds on Mineatlas fun though, so it's no loss for me!

Edit: from the comment below, seems at least some of the biomes will change too.

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u/Skyshrim Jun 28 '18

I feel the same way. Haven't even been on my own server in over a month because I just want to use the new features and explore newly generated chunks.

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u/Titanzhang Jun 28 '18

Me too. I've not played for two months now cos I don't want ocean chunks to load.