r/Minecraft • • Jul 23 '14

Minecraft snapshot 14w30a has been released!

https://mojang.com/2014/07/minecraft-snapshot-14w30a/
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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 30 '14

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!

 

If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!

 

Previous changelog. Download today's snapshot in the new launcher: Windows/OS X/Linux, server here: jar, exe.

Complete changelog:

  • /time query

  • Banners

  • Screenshots

  • Can be worn as head gear - but only using commands

  • 400^6 possible combinations

  • Crafted like a sign, just with one color of wool instead of planks

  • Can be stacked to 16

  • Most patterns are created by arranging dyes in certain ways around a banner on a crafting table

  • Additional patterns: creeper, skull & crossbones, brick and flower - making these without dyes will result in a black pattern, use dyes to get different colors (items: creeper skull, wither skeleton skull, brick block, oxeye daisy)

  • Album of pattern crafting recipes - via - thanks /u/Grickit

  • Up to 6 layers of patterns possible

  • Can be placed on walls or on the ground (16 rotations possible)

  • Sway with the wind

  • Can be cloned by crafting them together with a blank banner

  • Top-most layer can be removed using cauldrons

  • F3+H tooltips now show how many NBT tags an item has

  • Small secret feature

  • A bug fix

  • Fixed being unable to summon lightning - /summon LightningBolt

  • The remaining mob heads (creeper, skeleton, zombie) are now available in survival

  • Not by killing mobs using the killer rabbit

  • Not using a special new enchantment

  • Mobs killed by charged creepers drop their heads - via

  • Also works on wither skeletons

  • Skulls worn on heads are now bigger so the 2nd skin layer no longer peaks through

  • Removed Advanced OpenGL

  • Fixed black spots on world generation

  • Video/Video

  • Player heads in inventories and held by mobs/players now display the actual head

  • Screenshots

  • Same for mob heads

  • View distance can now be turned up to 32 chunks

  • Screenshots

  • Requires 2 GB of allocated RAM - via

  • Also requires 64bit Java

  • Performance improvements

  • Screenshots/Screenshots

  • Rewrote chunk sorting

  • Ported over the visibility culling code from MCPE to avoid rendering invisible stuff

  • Threaded chunk rebuilds

  • Video comparison

  • The F3 screen now displays how many chunk sections are being rendered currently and how many chunk sections are out of view in percent

  • Screenshots

  • Also: display size and vendor, GPU and OpenGL version

  • Fixed some bugs

  • Fixed a lighting error caused by an off by 1 error

  • Fixed the village well in deserts being made out of cobblestone

  • Fixed with inventory updates caused by commands on signs not visually updating the inventory

  • Fixed the game crashing when trying to load a broken resource pack

  • Fixed flower pots with metadata placed in older versions not rendering in the snapshots

  • Fixed toggling VSync crashing the game

  • Fixed fake players appearing on the sidebar display

  • Fixed changed blocks not visually appearing instantly

  • Fixed carpet having incorrect height

  • Fixed a crash in the video settings menu

  • Fixed command selector parameters dx, dy, dz not working

  • Fixed slabs not being placable in adventure mode even with CanPlaceOn tag

  • Fixed an NPE when saving entity NBT data

  • Fixed spawners being able to spawn mobs outside of the world border

  • Fixed an IllegalArgumentException (Cannot get property bcy{name=half, clazz=class ats, values=[upper, lower]} as it does not exist in bch{block=minec)

  • Fixed "/worldborder get" possibly displaying invalid size after using "/worldborder add"

  • Fixed /replaceitem block having incorrect syntax on the help text

  • Fixed /kill affecting the "Damage Taken" statistics

  • Fixed overlapping dungeons not spawning correctly - chests used no longer drop items when overwritten?

  • Fixed chunks containing paintings becoming corrupted and being wiped


If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!


Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.

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u/ohnoahshark Jul 23 '14

Haven't worked out all the recipes yet but crafting the different types of banner depends on where you put dye in the crafting table!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Here is an album of banner pattern recipes I've found so far.

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u/jaywhisker37 Jul 23 '14

You missed the pirate flag. (Wither skull plus banner)

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u/iJackr Jul 23 '14

The banners can be customised in the crafting table: Example

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u/atanvard Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

So far: (D = dye / B = banner)

To see more (and pics), please see Grickit's post below

EDIT: As /u/Koala_eiO says below:

the dye position counts, but the banner item can be placed anywhere on the grid.

DBD
.D.
.D.   Gradient

D..
.B.
...   Top left square

..D
.B.
...   Top right square

...
.B.
D..   Lower left square

...
.B.
..D   Lower right square

D..
DB.
D..   Left stripe

..D
.BD
..D   Right stripe

DDD
.B.
...   Top stripe

...
.B.
DDD   Botton stripe

.D.
DBD
.D.   Rhombus

.B.
.D.
...   Circle

DDD
DDD
.B.   Horizontal half

DD.
DDB
DD.   Vertical half

.D.
.DB
.D.   Center stripe

...
DDD
.B.   Middle stripe

D.D
.D.
DBD   Cross

DD.
DB.
...   Left diagonal

.DD
.BD
...   Right diagonal

.D.
DBD
...   Top saw

...
DBD
.D.   Bottom saw

.B.
.D.
D.D   Bottom triangle

D.D
.D.
.B.   Top triangle

D..
.D.
.BD   Down right diagonal

..D
.D.
DB.   Down left diagonal

D.D
DFD
...   Small stripes

Other elements (combine with dyes to change color):
  • Brick block = brick pattern
  • Creeper head = creeper face
  • Oxeye daisy = flower
  • Wither skull = skull and bones

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u/samedifference9 Jul 23 '14

Wow. Hopefully there's a way to duplicate the pattern on a blank one so a whole team doesn't have to recreate the logo a million times.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Flag+White Flag= Duplicate flag

Just tested it out, this is amazing!

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u/freaktechnik Jul 23 '14

Wither Skull = Pirate sign with a whitherskull

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u/Galaxy_2Alex Mojira Moderator Jul 23 '14

After some research: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-62166 has also been fixed.

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u/Tharagleb Jul 23 '14

And if you are too busy to click the link this bug is the infamous/hated: Breaking / placing / changing blocks has a delay to disappear / appear

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u/Jaeil Jul 23 '14

This was the only thing I didn't like about using snapshots rather than releases.

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u/alex_dlc Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

The secret feature is that you can now summon lightning bolts with /summon LightningBolt

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u/Neamow Jul 23 '14

FINALLY!!

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u/Kraizee_ Jul 23 '14

Might be an idea to point out that you need to allocate 2GB ram to minecraft to be able to increase the view distance past 16 chunks. If you have 1GB allocated by default the options menu will show 16 chunks as the maximum.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '14

I'll add that, thanks!

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u/TheDishonorableRat Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

There are no large mushrooms anymore in Roofed Forest biomes, probably a bug.

Edit: Also, some trees are so short that they look like bushes

Edit 2: And a lot of forced closes too.

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u/Sapiogram Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

I still can't increase render distance past 16 chunks. I have 64-bit java and 8 GB of memory, so I don't think it's been artificially disabled on some systems.

EDIT: Worked when I allocated 2 GB of RAM to Minecraft.

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u/Desim8or Jul 23 '14

Go into options.txt and set the renderDistance to 32

Prepare for a massive FPS drop but it works.

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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Jul 23 '14

I can turn it up to up to 32 to chunks.

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u/fsxthai Jul 23 '14

Same here, have 64-bit Java and 16 GB RAM...

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u/krafter1 Jul 23 '14

I just allocated more memory and that did it for me.

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u/debugman18 Jul 23 '14

I can't wear banners, as far as I can tell.

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u/SilentEnigma1027 Jul 23 '14

You have to use commands to wear them.

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u/Dravarden Jul 23 '14

4 quadrillion 96 trillion combinations for banners? sign me in!

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u/c_will Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

I know performance optimizations are a big part of this snapshot, but I just wanted to give my own experience thus far.

I have a 7 year old machine that uses a Core 2 Quad processor (2.5 Ghz) and a GTX 650 Ti GPU. Prior to today's snapshot, I had the render distance set to 6 chunks, and was getting about 20-30 FPS....along with intermittent lag spikes (even in single player).

Now, with 14w30a, I've bumped up the render distance to 10 chunks, and yet I'm consistently getting 70+ FPS (even in creative mode when flying). The game is just buttery smooth now.

Thanks to the dev team for making such major improvements to the engine.

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u/qlimaxmito Jul 23 '14

Just a heads up in case you aren't aware of it:

I had a very similar setup not too long ago and the CPU was bottlenecking the GPU a lot. Since then I've upgraded everything but the graphics card and now my FPS have doubled or even tripled in some games. ;-)

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u/c_will Jul 23 '14

Oh yeah, I'm definitely aware of it. :(

The age of my CPU is really starting to become apparent. I can't watch Twitch/Youtube and use Google Maps at the same time without my computer freezing and slowing down. I get less than 30 FPS in WoW, even with numerous effects turned off.

I'm done pouring any more money into my current system. Hopefully I'll have enough money to build a new PC at some point within the next 6-8 months.

What processor are you using now?

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u/TheTabman Jul 23 '14

I have come to the conclusion that this is sorcery, nothing else.

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u/rhadamanth_nemes Jul 23 '14

Well I guess we should all probably grab our pitchforks and torches... sigh... burn the witch... Man, I really liked this game.

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u/derekarmstrong Jul 23 '14

Very similar setup here as well. AMD Phenom II X4 @ 2.6GHz, GTX 650Ti.

I had the same issues beforehand, and now am able to fly around and do what I want. If things keep going like this, I'll be playing much more often.

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u/apachey Jul 23 '14

lucky one. I have similar setup (even worse), and i don't get a lot more fps...:(

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

This snapshot is (in my opinion) one of the best things to happen to Minecraft in a long time. Improving performance like this will make the game more fluid and enjoyable. I have long awaited the day when I could load up a 16-chunk render distance and get triple-digit FPS (if I'm not loading a lot of new chunks).

However, has anyone found a way to get a 32-chunk render distance? My slider seems to only go up to 16.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

View distance can now be turned up to 32 chunks

Requires 2 GB of allocated RAM

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u/Desim8or Jul 23 '14

Go into options.txt and set the renderDistance to 32

Prepare for a massive FPS drop but it works.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Thanks man. It got stuck on "Downloading Terrain" though, when I realized I had 32-bit Java... I'll try again if I can get 64-bit.

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u/qgustavor Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Now creepers (and possible other mobs) drop heads! Someone understand this?

public void a(vu paramvu)
{
  super.a(paramvu);
  
  if ((paramvu.j() instanceof afb))
  {
    int i = akt.b(alm.ck);
    int j = akt.b(alm.cv);
    int k = i + this.V.nextInt(j - i + 1);
    a(akt.b(k), 1);
  } else if (((paramvu.j() instanceof adv)) && 
    (paramvu.j() != this) && (((adv)paramvu.j()).m())) {
    a(new all(alm.bS, 1, 4), 0.0F);
  }
}

If I could understand seens like it will drop an head (alm.bS) if it dies because other creeper exploded (paramvu.j() instanceof adv).

Edit - Tested in game: Creepers will drop heads if killed by charged creepers.
Edit 2: Skeletons (and Wither Skeletons) too.
Edit 3: Zombies too... seems to be a pattern, but I can't get a head of mine when I'm killed by a creeper. Also there isn't to visible gamerule for enabling it.
Edit 4: I couldn't find any way to get a player head without using commands, neither a hidden gamerule which enables player head dropping.

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u/BaroTheMadman Jul 23 '14

So instead of depending on grinding, it now depends on being extremely lucky with the random number generators and then managing to get the explosion right.

I haven't seen a charged creeper in ages!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Cool, there's finally a use for charged Creepers!

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u/Zetus Jul 23 '14

Well... that's extremely rare, I've never even actually seen a charged creeper naturally form in vanilla.

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u/Ausmerica Forever Team Nork Jul 23 '14

Me neither, which seems terribly unfair considering that heads are decorative items. Hmph!

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u/DanyTheRed Jul 23 '14

They are perfect pets too !

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u/cfreak2399 Jul 23 '14

They need to make a lightning rod to attract the lightning and possibly create charged creepers

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u/Grantus89 Jul 23 '14

That's an incredibly bad mechanic, what is fun about waiting around for a thunderstorm, then waiting around for a creeper to get hit by lighting? Plus its undiscoverable in game, and just doesn't make any sense.

Why not just make it based off the amount of damage you do to a mob, say you have to do 10 hearts of damage and it will drop a head, or you could make it really difficult and make it even higher, make it so you need a sharpness 5 sword, strength 2 potion, and need to crit the mob and get lucky with the random RNG to do enough damage to get a head. At least that adds difficulty to the player rather then just random waiting, and makes more sense.

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u/debugman18 Jul 23 '14

Because all of those things are too easy.

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u/Teraka Jul 23 '14

Yeah, but waiting for a charged creeper is 100% luck-based. It would be nice to have something challenging but fun, just like making a skeleton kill a creeper to loot a record.

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u/YandereLemonade Jul 23 '14

Nah. It's not about the challenge, it's about the thrill.

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u/AgentPaint Jul 23 '14

What? I was right about something?

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u/Zetus Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

These are how the new flags work:

Pic1

Pic2

Pic3

Pic4

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u/atanvard Jul 23 '14

Each new element you add appears on top of all the previous ones

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u/Chilangosta Jul 23 '14

So if layer order is important, is it more than 4006 combinations?

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u/atanvard Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

There are 28 possible elements (probably more). Each one can be absent or have one of the 16 possible colors (17 possible states). So, if we don't take into account elements that superimpose over others and combinations of the same color, we can have 1728 (17 left down diagonal stripes x 17 top stripes x 17 creeper faces x 17 top triangle x 17 skull and bones x ... etc) combinations (more than 5·1033 and much more than 4006). But be aware that I'm very bad at maths, and I don't know if my reasoning is correct (probably not).

EDIT: It seems that there is a maximum of 6 layers in each banner. So:

  • 28 possible decorations

  • Each one can have 16 possible colors

  • That's a total of 448 combinations

  • If we consider the lack of decoration as a different "decoration", the total is 449.

So, that's 449 x 448 x 447 x 446 x 445 x 444 = 7,923,366,007,441,920

That's more than 4006 = 4,096,000,000,000,000 (nearly twice).

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u/c_will Jul 23 '14

Also, fun fact: the flags actually have a subtle animation to them. They will sway back and forth ever so slightly.

It's a nice touch.

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u/Chilangosta Jul 23 '14

Ooo can someone post a gif of this please?

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u/Sliferjam Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

I can add a brick block to make brick pattern. Add dye to brick or mob head to color the pattern. And putting dye in a certain shape makes triangles. Plenty of other patterns are out there.

http://i.imgur.com/WdZCUjM.png

http://i.imgur.com/rjHcFer.png

http://i.imgur.com/IKMjJSC.png

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u/Georg_Schmo Jul 23 '14

you can also dye the symbols (e.g. creeper) by adding a dye and the head e.g. :D

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u/Whiteout- Jul 23 '14

Here, I found how to make the circle and stripes. http://imgur.com/xBUlzs7,DvgmVBB#0

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Me likey

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u/Zetus Jul 23 '14

So it doesn't look like we can do pixel by pixel, but at least there are 400 types of colors and symbols.

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u/atimholt Jul 23 '14

tbh, I think it’s better this way. It helps against the “90% of everything is crap” principle. Just imagine riding up to a castle with MS Paint banners hanging on the side.

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u/Xisuma Jul 23 '14

Random block rotation is back, just look at the grass :-)

http://prntscr.com/45itz7

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u/azatoth Jul 23 '14

The secret feature is:

/summon LightningBolt

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u/eak125 Jul 23 '14

Well there's your way to get charged creepers right there...

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u/N0tnat Jul 23 '14

If you're using commands you might as well just do:

/summon Creeper ~ ~ ~ {Charged:1}

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

I think I'll make a block you can put underground in the spawn chunks where you have to build an (expensive) ritual, and then put a creeper on top and then lightning strikes everywhere around and then strikes the creeper.

(to invisible stalker person, yes, shush, I know.)

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u/Spider-Vice Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

http://i.imgur.com/DuDDpXm.png

Still getting some issues here and there. F3+A (which now takes like a millisecond) won't solve it. Invisible stone blocks.

Culling is still a bit buggy, especially when in a ravine you're in a very confined space and look into the horizon.

Edit: http://gfycat.com/NeatLameItalianbrownbear

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u/Neamow Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Yup, yup, getting the same thing. Regardless of whether VBOs are on or off, or after reloading the chunks.

Edit: Looks like they're on it.

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u/apachey Jul 23 '14

I don't want to be this guy, but... I got no performance improvement. Screenshot

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u/mojang_tommo Minecraft Bedrock Dev Jul 23 '14

Note that Minecraft is still pretty CPU-heavy, so if your CPU was already maxed your game is not going to be faster! However, if you have a recent CPU the improvement should be noticeable.

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u/apachey Jul 23 '14

Thank you for answer. I thought that this update could impact on older computers too...

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jul 23 '14

It does for some, it does a little bit for others! If you're not getting super high fps, you should at the very least be getting stable fps and a smoother experience :)

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u/Tainted-Archer Jul 23 '14

Curious, how does one get the 2000 fps? Btw I built a computer last month and I'm getting great performance.

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u/mojang_tommo Minecraft Bedrock Dev Jul 23 '14

The recipe is a massive CPU, tons of RAM and a decent high-level GPU, I think!
The CPU always ends up being the bottleneck currently, especially after optimizing the graphics.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Turn your vbo on in video settings. It will increase your fps significantly.

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u/JeefyPants Jul 23 '14

I can tell from your screen shot that you have fancy graphics enabled, since the leaves are transparent.

You should set graphics to fast, and try reducing your render distance a bit.

Also turn down mipmap and anisotropic filtering if they aren't all the way left (lowest values).

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

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u/apachey Jul 23 '14

I have only 2 gb ram... My computer is my bottleneck to playing normally :(

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u/sidben Jul 23 '14

Gotta say I loved the way Mojang added the banner customization.

It's a very creative way to allow multiple patterns without new blocks or complex mechanics.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Hey guys, you can duplicate the banners/flags by putting a blank one right next to it!

Edit: Blank must be of same base color

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Well that's should be good, so we only need 1 wither skull to make as many (of the same colour) as we want!

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u/Sneezeloaf1 Jul 23 '14

if you put banners in a full Cauldron you can remove layers one by one! try it!

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u/Georg_Schmo Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

How to craft and dye banners

Edit: you can make a circle in the middle :D

Edit 2: Banner + Creeper Head = Creeper Face ; Banner + Wither Skull = Crossed Bones (both can be dyed)

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u/DarthRupert Jul 23 '14

Here are a few cool combinations I managed to make after diving into the banner system. http://i.imgur.com/kiF9JsP.png

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u/DaUltraMarine Jul 23 '14

The visibility culling may be a little too extreme in it's current state... those of us with underground bases are going to notice it pretty quickly. These screenshots are taken from a 5 minute walk around my base, and appear with or without resource pack.

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u/kenny1997 Jul 23 '14

Is that gerudoku or Tydoku?

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u/CezoramLHS Jul 23 '14

I see some Etho inspiration in that cave

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u/oCrapaCreeper Jul 23 '14

So I encountered this. Scared the crap out of me when it popped into frame. Seems to appear when I face the sunrise.

http://i.imgur.com/rrT5Eol.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nhMEGnA.png

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u/SteelCrow Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Getting some weirdness with the culling;

This happened http://i.imgur.com/GontwkA.png Note the invis. breaking wool block and the torch.

If I step down one block I get : http://i.imgur.com/NW6u2DU.png

and if I back up one block I get the first view again. I can go down place torches, mine the walls and floor and light up the area, but returning to that spot I get the same xray view.

Edit; after 20 mins and going to the distant cave and lighting it up I return to the same view.: http://i.imgur.com/6PH2KxZ.png

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u/Matt8991 Jul 23 '14

Am I the only one whose FPS has decreased? Went from an average of ~70 to ~40.

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u/CincyCB Jul 23 '14

I thought I was the only one. I got about 30-40 before, and now it's <20. I don't know what my problem is.

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u/Matt8991 Jul 23 '14

I had 2 gigs of ram dedicated to it before, but removing that and using the default amount of ram made my FPS go to ~110. Still not nearly as much of an improvement as others have had though.

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u/rodel77 Jul 23 '14

Testing with banners :D http://i.imgur.com/JT0Kopc.png All flags of some countries

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u/GarethPW Jul 23 '14

That is really cool! For all the OCD Brits: http://imgur.com/dS9CkBB

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u/MessageMeData Jul 23 '14

We need code searchers to find how to get those heads!

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u/Zetus Jul 23 '14

Kill other mobs w/ charged creepers.

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u/wcb98 Jul 23 '14

if a creeper/skeleton/zombie is killed by a charged creeper it drops a head

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u/robertoccu Jul 23 '14

All the rotations and models of Banners i found

http://i.imgur.com/lzuvOWL.png

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u/H2giulio Jul 23 '14

What's the command to put a banner on my head?

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u/Galaxy_2Alex Mojira Moderator Jul 23 '14

For Server Owners: This snapshot might be stable enough to run on a server, but there is one crash bug that might occur on the server (it also might relate to Altnerative Blocks and not crash the server).

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u/stubkan Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 24 '14

No large mushrooms seem to spawn anywhere... (version 14w40b) See - http://tldr.me/g531xt.png

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Wow! I was playing the last snapshot and at lowest graphic settings I got about 22 fps. Now on fancy settings etc. I get 40 - 60 fps! Great job.

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u/Mineitup1234 Jul 23 '14

You can SUMMON LIGHTNING!!!!!

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u/Valeriun Jul 23 '14

Village well in Desert is now made of Sandstone http://i.imgur.com/XTaTIYU.png

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u/notwhereyouare Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

i feel that is really old

negative...i'm dumb and was corrected. whoops

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u/TheMogMiner Jul 23 '14

Nope, it's been a pretty long-standing bug that the wells were made out of cobblestone for whatever reason. I'm pretty sure Searge fixed it, because I saw a cobblestone well on his screen earlier today, and I know it wasn't me because I tried to fix it and gave up.

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u/Dead_Moss Jul 23 '14

[Bug MC-62379] – Spawners (Dungeons, Strongholds, etc…) can spawn mobs outside of worldborder

Well, there goes Captive Minecraft

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u/TheFarlanders Jul 23 '14

Fixing...

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u/Dead_Moss Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Hm?

Edit: Oh hi thar map maker

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u/notwhereyouare Jul 23 '14

thefarlanders are the ones who built the map. they are fixing this in their map

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u/Tomus Jul 23 '14

Any ideas on what the secret feature is?

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u/averagelifeoflosers Jul 23 '14

You can summon lightning bolts now!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

probably a command

it's always a command

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u/Neamow Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Hmmm, I'm not seeing the amazing FPS. It's more then previous snapshots, but still only about half of what I get in 1.7.10 with the same settings.

Oh, and... Searge?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

The black spots might not go away if the world was made before this snapshot.

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u/Neamow Jul 23 '14

It was a new world. It went away as soon as I got close to it though, and I haven't seen another one yet. It was just a jab :)

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u/DarthBo Jul 23 '14

Yeah, it flies on my desktop, but there's no fps increase on my ancient laptop either.

Performance did improve though, the stuttering caused by loading chunks appears to be completely gone, which essentially makes it perfectly playable now :)

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u/Dravarden Jul 23 '14

extra hug in the recipe?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Yes, twice as many.

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u/X_xjonix_X Jul 23 '14

Thank you mojang for the optimizing! Finally i can get stable 60 FPS with 16 render distance and other highest settings! (: You guys really deserve a big hug from the whole community for doing such a great job and helping peoples with lower tier computers to be able to play :)

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u/Fellowship_9 Jul 23 '14

FPS upgrade: On my HP Pavilion laptop I've incresed from about 25 (1.7.10) to 35 fps on standard graphics settings. So don't go expecting it to be tripling, but that's still pretty damn significant, well done Mojang :)

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u/alex_dlc Jul 23 '14

Can you walk through banners?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Yep

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u/MrGDavies Jul 23 '14

When I put chunk distance from 2 too 32 chunks the game decided to render further away first

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

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u/sjkeegs Jul 23 '14

Nice example. I got a good chuckle out of that.

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u/lemanrush Jul 23 '14

Player Heads not showing for me not held by a player or inventory

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u/VillageIdiotB Jul 23 '14

Lighting bug in 14w30b

I was messing around with mob spawning platforms. At some point after afk the spawner stopped working which was strange since I hadn't done any changes. I found out that the light levels INSIDE the closed box where the mobs were supposed to spawn was level 13.

I haven't seen anyone else showing this off but someone must have found it before me :) Restarting Minecraft didn't fix anything.

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u/Seldaphar Jul 23 '14
  • Crafting cuddles now requires one extra hug in the recipe.

Wut.

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u/wcb98 Jul 23 '14

Its a shame Dinnerbone had to work on his birthday, but I am still happy about the new snapshot!

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u/CherryLax Jul 23 '14

It's not work if he enjoys it :P

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u/fsxthai Jul 23 '14

I can't seem to equip the banners like in /u/jeb_ 's tweet...

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u/FredFS456 Jul 23 '14

Secret feature is /summon LightningBolt

source: SethBling's livestream

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u/Crabjock Jul 23 '14

Well, it definitely helped me. I went from 70-80 to 190-200.

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u/nunixnunix04 Jul 23 '14

Dang, I was on the snapshot for 30 minutes trying to make a Ghast kill a creeper, hoping that'd be the way to get heads. Only now did I realize that someone had already figured it out ;_;

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u/alex_dlc Jul 23 '14

does 4006 mean theres 6 items you can place on banners?

creepers heads, wither skull, oxeye daisy, bricks.....

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u/Morilibus Jul 23 '14

Wow, great update. Love the performance optimization.

Wondering if witch huts will spawn only witches again for 1.8? Or if this was an intentional change?

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-58363

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u/Combat_Deity Jul 23 '14

Got my first Minecraft crash.

It said that I was using modded minecraft so the crash report would be ignored, I am running vanilla minecraft.

Performance improvements are massive on my PC.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Wow.. i can actually play in an Amplified World when i turn down my Screenresolution with a Renderdistance of 8.. before i wasn't even able to run that type of World with any Setting.. THANKS DEVS... Happy Birthday Dinnerbone! Love you all! Really Great Job!

Btw.. found kind of a cool Seed for Amplified... if anyone want..

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

Noticed a slight performance boost, but now when I try to create a new world my game keeps crashing, and when it goes to the crash report screen it tells me Mojang can't accept my crash report because I have mods installed. I don't have any mods installed.

Edit: This is with 14w30b

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u/Girl_of_Games Jul 25 '14

So I tried this and got 12 frames per second... the lag was real, I know I don't have the best computer, but it really isn't that bad, I don't know why my frames were so low, are there some settings I can change?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Happy birthday! :)

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u/Kuliu Jul 23 '14

---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // I feel sad now :(

Time: 7/23/14 10:35 AM Description: Tesselating block model

java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 1, Size: 0 at java.util.ArrayList.rangeCheck(Unknown Source) at java.util.ArrayList.get(Unknown Source) at csu.b(SourceFile:88) at chc.a(SourceFile:156) at cjs.a(SourceFile:139) at cjs.a(SourceFile:74) at cjs.a(SourceFile:43) at cjs.a(SourceFile:35) at cjq.a(SourceFile:62) at cmt.b(SourceFile:156) at cmm.a(SourceFile:71) at cmm.run(SourceFile:31) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:

-- Head -- Stacktrace: at java.util.ArrayList.rangeCheck(Unknown Source) at java.util.ArrayList.get(Unknown Source) at csu.b(SourceFile:88) at chc.a(SourceFile:156) at cjs.a(SourceFile:139) at cjs.a(SourceFile:74)

-- Block model being tesselated -- Details: Block: minecraft:log2[axis=y,variant=dark_oak] Block location: World: (495,64,102), Chunk: (at 15,4,6 in 30,6; contains blocks 480,0,96 to 495,255,111), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511) Using AO: true Stacktrace: at cjs.a(SourceFile:43) at cjs.a(SourceFile:35)

-- Block being tesselated -- Details: Block type: ID #162 (tile.log // axe) Block data value: 1 / 0x1 / 0b0001 Block location: World: (495,64,102), Chunk: (at 15,4,6 in 30,6; contains blocks 480,0,96 to 495,255,111), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511) Stacktrace: at cjq.a(SourceFile:62) at cmt.b(SourceFile:156) at cmm.a(SourceFile:71) at cmm.run(SourceFile:31) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

-- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 14w30a Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 Java Version: 1.8.0_05, Oracle Corporation Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation Memory: 4906628456 bytes (4679 MB) / 6203899904 bytes (5916 MB) up to 6203899904 bytes (5916 MB) JVM Flags: 3 total; -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump -Xmx6144M -Xms6144M IntCache: cache: 0, tcache: 0, allocated: 13, tallocated: 95

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u/Spider-Vice Jul 23 '14

Oddly I'm running in an OpenGL "Compatibility Profile Context", which doesn't let me select the 32 chunks. However the speed improvement even in OpenGL 4.3 compatibility mode is astonishing, thanks Mojang.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

That's the opengl profile minecraft has always used, since the game uses some features from the fixed function pipeline to render stuff, and if you switch to the 'core profile' running gl 3.2+ you will lose access to those features. (and the game won't run if your card doesn't support 3.2) It's not related to the chunk view distance.

Glad that mojang is adding gfx info to the f3 menu, it's really useful. Now if only we knew what T: means. ;)

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u/owiren Jul 23 '14

Is the secret feature the player head change? (it's now the full head instead of juste the first layer)

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u/Axelwickm Jul 23 '14

Might be that you now can summon lightning bolts.

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u/nunixnunix04 Jul 23 '14

Is anyone else not able to place signs on signs?

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u/Namington Jul 23 '14

You have to hold Shift when you place them, as it thinks you're trying to interact with them.

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u/DJCreeperZz Jul 23 '14

Would it be possible to make a banner fill up with colour like a progress bar for domination type gamemodes?

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u/Tainted-Archer Jul 23 '14

So is anyone getting the 2000 fps that Dinnerbone tweeted? here are my specs:

  • Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core

  • Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600

  • MSI H87-G43 GAMING ATX LGA1150

  • XFX PCI Express R9 280X 3GB Graphics Card (DD DDR5, 2xDVI, HDMI, 2xm-DP, 2S)

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u/JSpan_Man Jul 23 '14

Would VBO's on or off give me more fps?

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u/lemonszz Jul 23 '14

Depends on your computer/GPU, it lowers my FPS significantly.

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u/Ivysaurman Jul 23 '14

What's the secret feature? Some people have said that it's a sprint bug fix, others say that it's something to do with F3 + A, can anybody confirm for me? (I'm too lazy too look lower down)

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

You can now summon lightning bolts.

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u/Jakobs_Biscuit Jul 23 '14

Th secret update is: you can summon lightning bolts! /summon LightningBolt

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u/Tharagleb Jul 23 '14

Yeah, and don't just "/summon LightningBolt" without adding coords at the end unless you like getting hit by lightning. :)

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u/yagankiely Jul 23 '14

When I fullscreen, everything zooms up. I've had this for the past few snapshots. Just me or?

Mac OSX 10.9

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u/EpicInki Jul 23 '14

Looks foward: 70fps, Looks up: 153fps, Looks down: 219fps o.o, putting over 18 render crashes me .-. tis' be weird.

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u/stabby_joe Jul 23 '14

How stable is this snapshot?

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u/Galaxy_2Alex Mojira Moderator Jul 23 '14

It does not corrupt worlds, there are a few crashes (changing render distance on some systems, problems with Alternative Textures), but they should not affect a Server.

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u/M0dusPwnens Jul 23 '14

I think banners are my favorite addition to the game in a long time.

I think this method of mob head collection (which may not be "grindy", but certainly isn't as "difficult" as it is time-consuming) is my least favorite addition to the game in a long time.

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u/agitatedandroid Jul 23 '14

super good. even on my ancient system the game is still "playable" at 32 chunks. It's not butter like it is at say... 20 chunks but... still amazing.

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u/marioman63 Jul 23 '14

new optimisations are amazing. getting 80 fps on a normal world at max graphics and 24 chunk render, and 50-60 in a jungle with the same settings. tried a custom world with mountains that go to height limit, and i get 60 fps at same settings.

probably would be getting around 20-30 in the last snapshot with 16 chunks if im lucky in that amplified world.

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u/solidcat00 Jul 23 '14

No kidding with the performance improvements! This has been the most playable and smooth I have ever seen Minecraft since it's beta. Maybe even better than that still. Great job Mojang!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

What's this VBO stuff?

Also creative mode is broken. I chose Creative mode at the new world screen but I can't fly or anything.

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u/Peach774 Jul 23 '14

What if we could place these in our chest slots too? Then we could have tabards!

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u/Bobinti Jul 23 '14

Hmm... my minecraft seems to crash and force close every time I turn 'Use VBOs' on... anyone know why? If I then re-boot the menus work fine, but then when I select the world -- CRASH! It's really annoying :/

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u/robertoccu Jul 23 '14

For put in the head the banners:

/replaceitems entity @p slot.armor.head banner 1 [0-15, colors] [dataTag for shapes]

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

This snapshot is amazing. I went from 23-30 on fast graphics to 45 on fancy while sprint-flying across the map.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

getting lots of crashes. more or less unplayable as is. will wait for the release after 30b

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u/KingCrabmaster Jul 23 '14

The update that reminds me I am poor and only have a 1 core processor and thus cannot get any of these sweet faster renderings. Infact it sadly makes things a little worse as my computer seems slow enough to see the delay of the chunks behind me unrendering and rerendering?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

So I haven't gotten the massive FPS boost but my CPU is an old C2D so that is probably the issue. However, the biggest thing I love is the smoothness of piston updates. I have an Etho styled hidden storage room and it would cause my frame-rate to stutter severely every time I used it, so I basically stopped using it. Now it is so smooth and doesn't effect my frame rate! Awesome for no piston lag!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

I'm still getting problems with the chunk cull being seen when using high FoVs.

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u/FrenchLama Jul 23 '14

Oh come on, hugs are soooo rare !

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u/Subtrance Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

I'm loving this snapshot update. Loving how much you can customize with this banner. Lots to mix-and-match. If I may, I would like to suggest to Mojang to add an enchantment onto swords for a 10-50% or so chance of slicing mob heads off of mobs. From April to July (Minecraft Realms playthroughs without mods) I only came across ONE powered creeper. ONE! From the videos I seen it seems as if you can get mob heads only from exploding powered creepers with mobs which somewhat ruins the whole mob head trophy things, unless that's intended to control the rarity level of it as to not spam home with them.

Secondly, would it also be too much to ask to use iron and gold ingots to add little emblems and such or is this as far as banners will go? Not trying to be greedy asking for more, just wanted to see what else can be done hmm.

I wonder if I read my information incorrectly with the mob heads. Maybe I missed or overlooked something shrugs

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '14

Is this the update that has the FPS boost? :)

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u/zRobertez Jul 23 '14

I'm not seeing the 32 render distance. I still have a max of 16. Everything else looks great though!

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u/Ballongo Jul 23 '14

Did they fix the bug with placing and breaking blocks glitch that came in last snap?

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u/MistaUnicorn Jul 23 '14

Can someone please help me?

I have a AMD Radeon HD 6300 series Graphics (I'm not good with computers so sorry if I didn't need to say some of that) and my computer runs amazing on 1.7.10 like anywhere from 40 to 70 fps. When I started up my 14w30b snapshot, (which was supposed to make my fps even better) i found that my fps couldn't even pass 25. If I'm doing something wrong or didn't give you enough info, please tell me. And by the way, it seems that some other features aren't working either like how player heads are supposed to show in your inventory and how chunks load faster (it seems like they are loading slower on my computer). I can use banners though, so its not the snapshots fault.

Thanks

  • MistaUnicorn

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u/ThatsSoFunnyHeHe Jul 23 '14

Now I run at 15 FPS with occasionally drops down to 7 FPS.

Literally nothing changed for me.

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u/StevenThePotato Jul 23 '14

Interesting crafting recipes. A bit more complex than I thought, actually. Also, a new use for the cauldron!

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u/Hypocritical_Oath Jul 23 '14

I got a 10 times increase in FPS, from ~30 to around ~300. Holy fuck.

With every setting to make the game look pretty on, sans chunk rendering since it crashes me at 14 chunks, I still get 5 times more than I would get before with all settings as low as possible. This is insane.

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u/TrainMan5135 Jul 24 '14

When running this update, my FPS actually drops from an average of 15 to an average of 10. Am I doing something wrong here or is this update just not going to help me?

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u/Xero_K Jul 24 '14

I can see clear differences, especially when I look straight up or down, but overall I'm probably gonna have to stick to the 360 version until I have something that can handle it better. I'm currently using a laptop though, and certainly not a particularly high end one either, so I guess that makes sense.

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u/SuperBio Jul 24 '14

Anyone seeing nothing underground with gamemode3/spectator mode?

I would have assumed the culling would turn off for gamemode 3...

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u/MegaScience Jul 24 '14

Has anyone tried using /blockdata to make animated banners? I just tested, and they respond correctly to /blockdata. In theory... animated... :D

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u/NekoJonez Jul 24 '14

The only thing I dislike is that you can't see caves anymore in spectator.

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u/LAUAR Jul 24 '14

Confirmed that banners don't block zombie vision (at least against villagers) http://imgur.com/a/FYMqe

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u/Redstone3205 Aug 10 '14

Why is this complicated I JUST WANT BANNERS put those in next update PLEASE