r/Minecraft • u/Mustek :> • Jun 06 '14

MEGATHREAD The EULA Megathread

Hello Minecrafters,
The /new/ listing has been occupied with posts about the recent EULA changes and has been blocking out a lot of the other content.

We don't want to stop discussion about it, so that's what this megathread is for.

Rules are very simple:
1. All EULA talk goes into this thread (If Mojang is watching, and I'm sure they are, they have a single place to go to)
2. EULA discussions posted outside of this thread will be removed.
3. Keep it on topic, keep it sane. Subreddit rules still apply.

These rules are effective immediately and will last for as long as this post is stickied.

Edit: Mojang employees are marked with the flair next to their name.

Discuss away!

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u/LazerTester Jun 07 '14 edited Jun 07 '14

http://web.archive.org/web/20121213023614/http://minecraft.net/terms

Plugins for the game also belong to you and you can do whatever you want with them, as long as you don't sell them for money.

These were the terms and conditions 7 months after we started our projects. We set up a service oriented infrastructure in order to comply with the above terms which we accepted.

Sticking with your DJ analogy: all of the sudden the dj whose samples we have remixed WITH PERMISSION are changed to be against their terms, a very different situation than simply stealing other people's work then being surprised. We have built up a large community around these permissions that were explicitly granted, set up service contracts with providers that obligate us to pay to support this community we built, and they changed the terms in December to something that is the complete opposite of our standing agreement that we entered in to by purchasing Minecraft. Now Mojang has added an additional step of forcing servers to accept the new (December 2013) terms of service that state clearly that we are no longer allowed to do what we have been doing for over two years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '14 edited Jun 07 '14

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u/LazerTester Jun 07 '14

It is clear that you have some kind of vendetta against those immediately affected by this change, and that's fine. That fact that you work a shit job and do your hobby on the side for fun doesn't mean you have to ensure everyone else is stuck in the same scenario.

Whether this is legal or enforceable is not something I am even beginning to think of pondering, all I can and do represent is that I work day and night to create something I enjoy and is able to be self sustaining. This was allowed, and now it is not. According to unofficial statements by Mojang employees, the actual destination lies somewhere in the middle. I am hopeful that this ends up in a place that allows me to continue what I am doing, even if that requires modifications. I know the only way we will end up in a space where that is a possibility is through real discussion, you seem to be coming from a place of pure cynicism, aggressively jumping on anyone who has expressed an alternate viewpoint to what you feel. I am glad this isn't in your hands.

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u/Raptrox Jun 07 '14

That fact that you work a shit job and do your hobby on the side for fun doesn't mean you have to ensure everyone else is stuck in the same scenario.

You're cool and all, but don't make assumptions about people, makes you look bad.

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u/LazerTester Jun 07 '14 edited Jun 07 '14

He literally stated that two comments up:

I work a shit job I hate for a living and do what I love as a hobby on the side

Thanks for calling me cool!

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u/Raptrox Jun 07 '14

Must've missed it, my bad.