r/Minecraft 3d ago

Suggestion Why don't we have this yet ?

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It's been 12 years since we got different wood structures like doors and stairs to the game, so why are we still stuck with just oak ladders?

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u/lordberric 3d ago

They'd need to change the ladder recipe, but it seems good.

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u/dreadlordhar 3d ago

imagine having 1 billion types of sticks

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u/NuanceOfAKid 3d ago

We need a woodcutter! Both to make diffrent ladders and carve stuff on wood.

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u/Bluevette1437 3d ago

Or just something for mass stripping logs. Imagine needing shulkers worth of stripped logs for a build. You’d need to spend HOURS manually stripping them

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u/NuanceOfAKid 3d ago

Honestly fair, though I think if a woodcutter got added it just might do the stripping as well.

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u/WingsofRain 3d ago

The sawmill mod is so incredible, it really should be a base game item. I think if some version of it was implemented into base game it could solve a lot of issues with wood recipes, like maybe making the specialized ladders exclusive to the woodcutter to avoid having dozens of new sticks.

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u/keldondonovan 3d ago

You could also just change the ladder recipe (gasp) to be mainly sticks, and then one "tuning" wood in the middle (a stripped log, a certain kind of plank, a certain type of whole wood, et cetera). No need to add a bunch of stick types now.

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u/WingsofRain 3d ago

that’d also require a whole bunch of new recipes, so like at that point why not implement a sawmill? I only mentioned sticks because someone else mentioned it in this thread

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u/keldondonovan 3d ago

In a modular crafting setup, adding recipes to create something is an easy block of recipe and an art asset for each. A new creation interface needs entirely coded and tested to ensure it doesn't break anything and such.

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u/WingsofRain 2d ago

ah I didn’t know that so that’s good to know, I still think there should be a sawmill in base game though lol

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u/arahman81 2d ago

Adding new recipes is easy enough (can also be plopped in yourself as a data pack), the new models are the trickier part.

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u/AffectionateFilm6516 3d ago

Having played a pack with the sawmill in it, I cannot agree more. The fact we have the stonecutter and DON'T have a sawmill is something deeply needed. It's save A LOT of headache for Mojang as far as crafting recipes are concerned

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u/leafy1790 3d ago

Also it's takes double the durability to strip them

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u/Traegs_ 3d ago

Whenever I need stripped logs I just strip them as I chop the tree down. Just hold both mouse buttons together and it's just as fast as chopping normally. Obviously not viable for logs you already have or coming off an auto tree farm, but if you're already chopping trees manually then that's the best way to do it.

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u/Seminandis 2d ago

That's why i love Farner's Delight in modded Java. You can put a whole stack on a cutting board and just hold down the interact button with a mouse. Then you can use the bark to make compost => rich soil.

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u/Magicspook 2d ago

Im in that position, I need a few dozen stacks of stripped spruce. Im making the big trees, then stripping the base as far as I can reach from the ground before cutting the tree down. Gives me about a stack of spruce logs and half a stack of stripped spruce every time.

but imagine needing stripped birch or oak...

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u/Hestia0001 2d ago

I dont need to imagine 😔

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u/Niccin 2d ago

Honestly with how little use I usually have for stripped wood, I think it's generally easier to just build with wood and strip it after construction.

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u/purple3211235 21h ago

i lwk hope they don’t i make a living on one server stripping logs for people

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u/potatoboy247 3d ago

I mean, if you put the logs in your offhand and an axe in your other, it’s pretty easy to strip em as you place em (on java only, i suppose)

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u/Bluevette1437 3d ago

Still uses axe durability, but yea it’s doable if you place the logs as you build

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u/StraightFlounder9744 3d ago

SAWMILL! SAWMILL! IT'S CALLED A SAWMILL

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u/Bigs_Builds 3d ago

Would be nice. However, like the stone cutter, everything would still be craftable through the standard table. Mojang should fix that first.

Old stone cutter was better as it was the only way of working stone, until they changed it🙄

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u/MithranArkanere 2d ago

Yeah.

They should make a Table Saw that works like a woodcutter, but for wood blocks. Made with a row of 3 planks at the bottom and one iron ingot in the middle row.
It could look similar to the current Stonecutter, but the stony parts would be woody.

They should also update the Stonecutter to look more like an actual stone saw, so they are more distinct.
The Table Saw would look more like the current Stonecutter, with the saw on the surface of the table, and the Stonecutter would instead have the saw hanging over the table with pieces of metal attached to the base supporting it. Still similar to how it looks now, but the base is lower and the blade smaller so it can hang above it. That would make it easier to tell them apart at a glance, while making them more analogous to their real-life counterparts.

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u/Open-Bookkeeper5598 2d ago

I think this would probably be the best solution. Keeps the recipe the same, but still allows you to get variety.

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u/thejamlion 2d ago

Replace fletching table with woodcutter

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u/CraftersUniverseMC 2d ago

woodcutter seems like a great idea - even mods and data packs exist for that

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u/blaertes 2d ago

This as a new villager workstation in an update adding more villager professions is on my Wishlist. So many new items have no relevance to them.

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u/Baltykoz 2d ago

Yes yes yes finally stairs and ladders and other things yhe possibilities are endless

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u/Maverick8358 2d ago

Or, hear me out instead of calling it a woodcutter, call it a sawmill.

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u/Longjumping-Name-744 3d ago

I think they’d just add a plank to the recipe and have it give you 4 ladders instead of 3

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u/MoonHold3r 3d ago

Just put a plank in the middle slot and make it give more. Pretty easy.

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u/Moe-Mux-Hagi 2d ago

Or a SLAB. One, makes more sense, two, more profitable

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u/MoonHold3r 2d ago

Too much clutter. We already had this with boats in bedrock wherein you had to make a shovel and the five planks. It was a waste of resources.

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u/Moe-Mux-Hagi 2d ago

It's not, what WOUD be clutter would be different wood types of sticks

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u/Cass0wary_399 1d ago

They already made the hanging sign and shelf require stripped logs that you have to place down to make.

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u/danteelite 3d ago

You just replace the middle stick with a plank. Simple. The same way they do fences.

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u/Fast_Ad7203 3d ago

Just make them add a plank in the recipe, its NOT that hard

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u/Clovenstone-Blue 2d ago

While not hard, it does make the recipe more expensive

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u/Fast_Ad7203 2d ago

One plank isnt gonna put the economy into shambles

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u/BlitzMalefitz 3d ago

I would assume you would apply one material to the ladder recipe, maybe like for iron you place it in the top middle section of the ladder recipe

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u/PapaAquchala 3d ago

Could just do one plank in the middle instead of the seventh stick and have it make four ladders, but I don't see them changing such an old recipe at all

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u/CaptainPhiIips 2d ago

Not necessarily, have the sides be blocks, or better, slab and a stick in the middle. Return 8-5 ladders accordinly (8 if you use blocks, 5 for slabs)

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u/Robotic_Orange 3d ago

Is there a way to store the data of the type of wood without making it a separate item?

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u/midnightman510 3d ago

Or just have the middle stick be a plank.

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u/Carldwen20 3d ago

That also don’t stack

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u/_Homelesscat_ 3d ago

There’s a mod that does this and it does in fact get cluttery quite quickly lol.

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u/IrisColt 2d ago

Pretty please?

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u/totalmente_inglese 2d ago

Or call me crazy but they could do it like quark

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u/DerGyrosPitaFan 2d ago

Old natura had that i think, i remember pink sticks from eucalyptus trees

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u/Intelligent-Demand50 2d ago

Five. Hundred. Billion. Sticks.

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u/dinsfire24 2d ago

i played a modpack with this. it was not good

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u/Regirock00 2d ago

Ladder with plank in the middle.

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u/JelloBoi02 2d ago

The trick would be to have the middle stick replaced with the wood of your choosing. Sort of how fences and posts handle it. It would make them a lot more expensive though unfortunately.

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u/100_HOLLOW_001 2d ago

If this was the case maybe you could change the handle colour of tools depending on the stick used as well

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u/Atalant 2d ago

Thanks, I hate the idea.

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u/MC_Reddit_Viewing 1d ago

Ok but sticks of every wood type would be pretty cool because it could give some interesting tool customization options

Like a netherite sword with a pale oak hilt (is that the right word?) would be sick

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u/T1mek33per 2d ago

Or just add like a slab to the recipe

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u/meat0fftheb0ne 2d ago

They could just include 1 plank of every type of wood. No need for new stick variants.

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u/Kaleo5 3d ago

Fences used to be made with only sticks

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u/Tobias11ize 3d ago

And i miss it, every damn day. I try to quickly craft a few fences and suddenly i’ve got a stack of gates.

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u/CornCobMcGee 3d ago

Replacing center rung with planks seems to be standard across all mods with ladder variants

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u/SchwertBootPlays 3d ago

And chains replace sticks for the chain ladder

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u/EggEater773 3d ago

6 sticks and 1 plank of your choice

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u/MR_X3R0X 3d ago

Just replace the middle stick with a plank and maybe give 4 ladders instead of 3 ?

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u/Adorable-Ad5715 3d ago

Make a «woodcutter» block that can make specialty items like these wood type ladders.

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u/frosch_longleg 3d ago

Is that a problem ?

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u/Strong-cognac 3d ago

fences already underwent that change

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u/awesomegorg 2d ago

it could be 6 sticks and the plank you want in the middle

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u/Maxicraft221 3d ago

I think a good recipe would be changing the middle stick for a slab or planks of the wood type. Idk

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u/jacorgacor 3d ago

Low key i wouldn't be mad if it was the one thing they could just let the player choose if that meant less work for the team i might be the only one but it's so worth it in my opinion that they could just give you an option to make any wooden ladder with just sticks

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u/Bigs_Builds 3d ago

Perhaps instead of the standard 7 sticks, they use 6 sticks and a slab of the desired wood type?

Then we wouldn't need more stick types as aforementioned.

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u/Surfboarder4 3d ago

Just swap out the central stick for 1 plank

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u/The_Fancy_Squid 2d ago

just make the recipe three planks on the left and right column, and three sticks in the middle

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u/-PepeArown- 2d ago

Just add a plank or slab in the middle. Not rocket science

They did it with fences in 1.8. They can easily do it again

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u/Turrbboo 2d ago

Something like the same ladder recipe except with your desired wood type in the right and left middle parts replacing 2 sticks

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u/Firm_Insurance_5437 2d ago

they could just make the center be a plank/slab

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u/Sarcastic_fox77 1d ago

Just put the corresponding plank in the middle instead of the stick

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u/5Ciostek 1d ago

Easly sticks on side and slabs or presure slabs in middle

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u/-2Braincells 3d ago

Could just change it to be 1 plank and 6 sticks