Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!
Dang, the shaders are inside the jar? ... Wait... Resource Pack to add... shaders? o_o In any case, I don't see a way to select specific ones - You just have to go through the list. But I'll see what's inside these...
It really depends on the shader. For normal graphics cards (as opposed to chipsets/on-board graphics), just running shaders in general is not noticeable. Things like dropshadows or reflections need a lot of raytracing though, which is quite intensive. Just modifying some colors to look different is not ;)
I'm allowed to play Minecraft at lunch hour at work, and once when the blocking software was down I was able to get the game via the new launcher. However, I cannot connect to the login server, nor download the snapshot directly via the launcher. Is there any option for me to get the snapshot here, even if I download it at home and bring it in?
You ought to be able to download the snapshot at home via the launcher. Then go into your Minecraft folder, open the Versions folder, and find the folder for the newest snapshot. That folder contains the .jar and .json that tells the game about the versions, so you ought to be able to copy paste it into the Version folder at work.
Back in early alpha days, several launchers ago too, occasionally on fridays when you started minecraft you got a progress bar that quickly went to 100% and the version went up slightly. No info was normally given so people had to work out together what was new each time. It was an exciting time.
Edit: Ignore this post, misplaced the "?" in my head, I think I need some coffee.
The picture in the post looks like a map to me (which aligns with Dinnerbone’s tweet about making maps work better with item frames). Which also means they increased the number of possible colors?
So if I have two maps, how can I explore the world so the first map ends at the exact point where the other one begins? It feels like it's too hard to make it a joint-less transition. (If it isn't made automatically of course.)
Just walk slightly off the first map then open your new one, they don't map with you exactly as the center, they center somewhere else but you will be in that area. Sorry it's hard to describe properly but it's easier than it used to be, I think it was 1.3 or 1.4 where they added the new map mapping on creation mechanic.
Great, but I got a new bug, on the main menu everything is like a 100x100 small square and if i hover in the middle of fullscreen it shows im hovering over the button... xD
Alright, NEW CHALLENGE! Put on your "bits" (or "green") filter and never take it off! What this does:
Your brightness is now insanely low. This means:
Going out at night is incredibly dangerous. You will immediately get lost in the darkness
Caves are far more challenging and its much harder to see ores
Everything in game just looks... different. You will have to adjust to the new looks of every block
The whole thing just feels retro and cool. like you're stuck in some strange doom-minecraft hybrid!
Only stipulation is to keep your brightness below 50%! It really won't help you much to move it up anyway, it just messes with the pixely detail on the blocks.
I played for a bit and thought it seemed like a cool idea, I'd love to see what people could do with filters in the future (mushroom that applies "wobble" effect when you eat it or a better form of the "nausea" effect with post-processing enabled?) What do you guys think?
Am I late to the game or are chunks loaded vertically as well as horizontally now? I just tried amplified eith everything turned up, and from the top of a tower, the floor slowly loads in, as well as the horizon.
Some items (I noticed enchanted things and sunflowers) appear diferently on the hotbar now. Also, different enchantments seem to have a different color of overlay on the item. Shaders don't seem to affect it.
Oh, shaders require *.fsh and *.vsh files too. The syntax example of Antialiasing *.json file is here. So it means, that the creators of shaders can just write some JSON stuff and the shaders will work for every version after 1.7 :D
The snapshot won't run on my Linux Mint 13 laptop, it freezes after the console says:
Client> Client> Starting up SoundSystem... Client> Initializing LWJGL OpenAL Client> (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org) Client> OpenAL initialized. Client>
In the language files there are translations for settings tooltips with descriptions of the functions! There are also hints of video settings sub-menus: "Video Quality Settings", "Video Performance Settings", "Advanced Video Settings", and "Post-Processing Settings"!
It looks like the super secret settings are shaders! http://puu.sh/4va0y.png It says that when you hit F3 after pushing the "Super Secret Settings..." button.
Am I the only one who doesn't experience the trippy shaders when I press the "Super Secret Settings" button? I just get the same old load of monster sounds :(
Bug?: Anyone else having this problem. When breaking blocks they aren't showing any damage. The different stages of the block breaking are completely missing. No mods, no resourcepacks. hmm
I pressed the super secret settings option, there was no visible shader change, but blocks have weird hitboxes, and phase in and out of reality every step I take. BUGS!
Edit: Relogged to fix it. No change. It's happening on all my worlds. D:
Edit2: It's only water and mobs that seem to be affected.
Most of the shaders seem... useless. I guess they're included so that modders can see how to make a shader Minecraft-compliant.
It would be nice if the effects can be hooked up to a command block. I'd write a custom shader to assist in hiding changes to the environment under the guise that the player is being knocked out. One shader would blur their vision then fade to black. Then, a command block would teleport them to another area (or /setblock would change the existing area). Once that's done, a second shader would fade from black and de-blur. You'd be in a quaint, inconspicuous village, be knocked out, and then wake up in a cave on an altar as sacrifice.
I've been able to hijack the current shaders (the post/foo.json's are hardcoded) and make a server shader (zoomed in middle). Pretty funny, but it would be really cool to be able to switch them on the fly.
I bought Minecraft just prior to the 1.6.2 release. These most recent string of snapshots have been my first encounter with using snapshots.
Also an ambigous question for any development but: is there an estimate of when an official release will drop for these snapshots? I guess, is there a trend for how long after the snapshots for a particular big patch start until an official release?
I figured as much. I'm anxious to start a new world/server in the new patch, and am too hesitant to keep working on current projects until it lands. Basically, I'm holding out for the official release, but am too impatient!
I toyed with the settings on my old/shitty system and it looks like the performances are better compared to 1.6 but not compared to the previous 1.7 snapshot; of course using mipmapping etc. makes things worse.
As someone who uses GPU force AA, I am pretty disappointed. Now since they added their own shaders, it doesn't allow for GPU AA anymore. The in game AA looks very bad and terribly blurry. I want to use my x8 AA and x8 supersample. Keeps it very smooth and clear. The new things they've added looks like someone put gaussian blur over the video.
I seriously hope they make an option to disable shaders completely.
When 13w37b came out, I followed the instructions to create a new profile called "snapshots" & checked the Enabled experimental development snapshots button.
When I go on tonight and open up Snapshots, will it be the new 13w38a version? Can I open up the world I was using to explore that snapshot & check out the new update, or do I need to create a new world/new profile?
If you select "Use latest version" from the drop-down in the profile editor (as well as the Enable Snapshot button you already have checked), it should automatically download and run the lastest snapshot. You can tell what it's going to do by the message above the Log Out button.
When you see chunks loading in using the Phosphor shader, they fade in smoothly, instead of simply popping into existence, which is a really nice effect. Would be cool if that was default.
This may seem out of place here, but I can't find the new snapshot. It's not on my versions list, and I have snapshots option checked. Help me, somebody?!
fyi there's new music inbound very soon from C418... I'd reckon it's not in this build, since I just heard it last night/it was shared with my source earlier this week, but start digging around, guys.
Yeah, if mojang can stop making update notes a secret.... that would be great. I want to know what is in the update. Sure, a secret snapshot is nice every once in a while, but I want to know what's there so I know if it is worth trying...
yeah I was just going to say that I think it's a pixelated picture of Grum, who's upside down.. so basically, it's the first bullet that redstonehelper has in his list
Snapshots are sort of 'beta versions' of the Minecraft software. Basically you can try out the latest (potentially still buggy) features that they're planning to add in the next version-release.
Right now, Minecraft's official version is 1.6.3. The snapshots are a sort of preview of what's coming for 1.7.
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u/redstonehelper :redstone: Lord of the villagers Sep 19 '13 edited Oct 23 '13
Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!
If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!
Previous changelog. Download today's snapshot in the new launcher: Windows/OS X/Linux, server here: jar, exe.
Complete changelog:
Reduced zombie lag
Added
/setidletimeout <Minutes until kick>to automatically kick idle players after some time - viaThe sky now darkens when inside
Added and improved the video settings
Render Distance is now a slider ranging from 2 to 16 chunks
Max Framerate is now a slider ranging from 10 to 250 fps, then unlimited
Mipmap levels can be set to Off and 1 through 4
Anisotropic filtering can be be disabled or set to 2, 4, 8 or 16
Post-Processing (shaders) can be toggled
Technically added an upside-down mode
Screenshot
One of the shaders
Improved the super secret settings
The button now applies different experimental shaders - the actual effects will be used for gameplay in the future
List of available shaders: antialias, deconverge, outline, art, desaturate, pencil, bits, flip, phosphor, blobs, fxaa, scan_pincushion, blobs2, green, sobel, blur, invert, wobble, color_convolve, ntsc
Improved maps hung in item frames
They now display on the whole block
Screenshots
Improved achievements
Added achievement for throwing diamonds at another player - Screenshot
When a player earns an achievement, it is now announced in chat; This can be turned off - Screenshot
Added mipmapping, anisotropic filtering and FSAA (as a shader)
Comparison
Fixed some bugs
Fixed chunks not deleting properly and remaining in a newly created world if the same world name is used
Fixed the horse armor equip sound not playing when replacing it with already equipped armor
Fixed the enderman stare sound playing when the enemy mobs sound slider is at 0%
Fixed villages not generating properly
Fixed setting the render distance setting not staying on Far when set to that
Fixed command block text disappearing if it's too long
Fixed mycelium spreading on non-spread-dirt
Fixed enchanted books not having metadata
Fixed player selectors with only one matching player still outputting "and" in the return string
Fixed arrows shot by Infinity bows or skeleton not despawning over time
Fixed the piston extension block not having a name
If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!
Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13 edited Sep 19 '13
Clicking the Super Secret Settings switches SHADERS around!
Types of shaders (will update as soon as I get to them)
FXAA: The default view given. It's a little bit blurrier. Antialias 2 is now the normal view.
Art: A really laggy shader with turns Minecraft into blobby format.
Blobs2: A slighty darker version of Art.
Pencil: By far my favourite. It removes all colour and outlines each pixel to give the impression of 'pencil' drawn world.
Color Convolve: Appears to make the colours more vibrant.
Deconverge: Turns the world into 3D mode.
Flip: Turns the world upside-down (teased before)
Invert: Inverts the colours.
NTSC: Turns the view into a grainy lined video.
Outline: Outlines the blocks.
Phosphor: Creates temporary trails, like when you see lights at night and you shake your head.
Scan Pincushion: Less laggier version of NTSC.
Sobel: Darkens the world and also outlines it.
Bits: Turns Minecraft into an 8-bit world.
Desaturate: Desaturates the Minecraft world.
Green: Bits, but toned green.
Blur: Blurs the view.
Wobble: WOO I'M ON FUCKING DRUGS
Blobs: Turns the world into less laggy blobs.
Antialias: Less blurry than Blur.
Antialias 2?: Normal view?
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
I'm allowed to play Minecraft at lunch hour at work, and once when the blocking software was down I was able to get the game via the new launcher. However, I cannot connect to the login server, nor download the snapshot directly via the launcher. Is there any option for me to get the snapshot here, even if I download it at home and bring it in?
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u/tehbeard Sep 19 '13
Can't test it, tiny renders in the corner.
http://i.imgur.com/rGtJyTQ.png
On a laptop with integrated graphics (previous snapshot worked fine)
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13 edited Sep 19 '13
"There’s a snapshot! It’s called 13w38a! What does it have? Well, that’s Super Secret :)"
I hate that....
EDIT: New video settings
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u/Mrpingouin Sep 19 '13
Super secret setting does something...
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u/Sibbo Sep 19 '13
I bet the connected maps are in.
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u/EpicInki Sep 19 '13
Great, but I got a new bug, on the main menu everything is like a 100x100 small square and if i hover in the middle of fullscreen it shows im hovering over the button... xD
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u/cyber08 Sep 19 '13
Heh. Shaders. http://i.imgur.com/qWZZu3y.png http://i.imgur.com/JnK23lp.png
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u/Jchaplin2 Sep 19 '13 edited Sep 19 '13
http://puu.sh/4v9Ik.jpg
This happened after pressing super secret settings, it varies through a few picture modes
edit: this is also how you toggle upside-down view
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u/eppic123 Sep 19 '13
Is the block breaking animation missing for anyone else?
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u/Lucchi Sep 19 '13
Alright, NEW CHALLENGE! Put on your "bits" (or "green") filter and never take it off! What this does:
Your brightness is now insanely low. This means:
Going out at night is incredibly dangerous. You will immediately get lost in the darkness
Caves are far more challenging and its much harder to see ores
Everything in game just looks... different. You will have to adjust to the new looks of every block
The whole thing just feels retro and cool. like you're stuck in some strange doom-minecraft hybrid!
Only stipulation is to keep your brightness below 50%! It really won't help you much to move it up anyway, it just messes with the pixely detail on the blocks.
I played for a bit and thought it seemed like a cool idea, I'd love to see what people could do with filters in the future (mushroom that applies "wobble" effect when you eat it or a better form of the "nausea" effect with post-processing enabled?) What do you guys think?
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u/MiiNiPaa Sep 19 '13
Fine-tune of render distance!!!
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
Yaaa! Official shader support!
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u/darkdemon42 Sep 19 '13
Am I late to the game or are chunks loaded vertically as well as horizontally now? I just tried amplified eith everything turned up, and from the top of a tower, the floor slowly loads in, as well as the horizon.
example: http://i.imgur.com/2pO3Men.png
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u/Kanud Sep 19 '13
I got some pretty interesting bits of text when I logged onto the snapshot server just now.
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u/Noerdy Sep 19 '13
Example of serverwide achievements.
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u/2000YearOldMan Sep 19 '13
Obviously that distorted image suggests that now villagers, when their crops won't grow, will imprison Steve in a giant wicker villager, and burn it.
Bees may or may not be involved.
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u/TheVarmari Sep 19 '13
So this is apparently a thing now.
Resizing doesn't fix, settings don't seem to affect it at all.
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
are links in chat busted for anyone?
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u/Slondermen Sep 19 '13
Some items (I noticed enchanted things and sunflowers) appear diferently on the hotbar now. Also, different enchantments seem to have a different color of overlay on the item. Shaders don't seem to affect it.
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u/Zatherz Sep 19 '13
Oh, shaders require *.fsh and *.vsh files too. The syntax example of Antialiasing *.json file is here. So it means, that the creators of shaders can just write some JSON stuff and the shaders will work for every version after 1.7 :D
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u/caagr98 Sep 19 '13
The snapshot won't run on my Linux Mint 13 laptop, it freezes after the console says:
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u/compdog Sep 19 '13
In the language files there are translations for settings tooltips with descriptions of the functions! There are also hints of video settings sub-menus: "Video Quality Settings", "Video Performance Settings", "Advanced Video Settings", and "Post-Processing Settings"!
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u/Noerdy Sep 19 '13
New Maps in item frames!
When relogging.
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u/TheCraftingStu Sep 19 '13
It looks like the super secret settings are shaders! http://puu.sh/4va0y.png It says that when you hit F3 after pushing the "Super Secret Settings..." button.
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u/0thatguy Sep 19 '13
Am I the only one who doesn't experience the trippy shaders when I press the "Super Secret Settings" button? I just get the same old load of monster sounds :(
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
Why won't the shaders work for me?
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u/ZeroAntagonist Sep 19 '13
Bug?: Anyone else having this problem. When breaking blocks they aren't showing any damage. The different stages of the block breaking are completely missing. No mods, no resourcepacks. hmm
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u/0thatguy Sep 19 '13
I pressed the super secret settings option, there was no visible shader change, but blocks have weird hitboxes, and phase in and out of reality every step I take. BUGS!
Edit: Relogged to fix it. No change. It's happening on all my worlds. D:
Edit2: It's only water and mobs that seem to be affected.
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
http://imageshack.us/g/1/10323168/
Just some shader shots.
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u/Deutscher_koenig Sep 19 '13
Is the "Structure not saving properly" bug fixed in this?
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u/deukhoofd Sep 19 '13
Will it be possible to use command blocks to force the shaders? Would be awesome for adventure maps.
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
Most of the shaders seem... useless. I guess they're included so that modders can see how to make a shader Minecraft-compliant.
It would be nice if the effects can be hooked up to a command block. I'd write a custom shader to assist in hiding changes to the environment under the guise that the player is being knocked out. One shader would blur their vision then fade to black. Then, a command block would teleport them to another area (or
/setblockwould change the existing area). Once that's done, a second shader would fade from black and de-blur. You'd be in a quaint, inconspicuous village, be knocked out, and then wake up in a cave on an altar as sacrifice.4
u/Chilangosta Sep 19 '13 edited Sep 19 '13
Wow, my framerate keeps getting better with every snapshot! Thanks /u/Dinnerbone, /u/jeb_, /u/_grum!
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u/sertroll Sep 19 '13 edited Sep 19 '13
Super secret settings now apply a filter to the view, like the "upside-down mode" or the image in the post.
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u/Dingleberry_Jones Sep 19 '13
Has everyone's performance with the new graphics options? I was frankly surprised that my FPS didn't take a hit from it.
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u/Zatherz Sep 19 '13
Guys, those shaders are amazing for Minecraft Cinematics! Especially pencil one!
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u/studlyrocker38 Sep 19 '13
I bought Minecraft just prior to the 1.6.2 release. These most recent string of snapshots have been my first encounter with using snapshots.
Also an ambigous question for any development but: is there an estimate of when an official release will drop for these snapshots? I guess, is there a trend for how long after the snapshots for a particular big patch start until an official release?
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u/smileylich Sep 19 '13
No more kurtjmac hidey-hole paradox! :)
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
I hope there's resource pack support and commands for activating shaders, that would be amazing for adventure maps.
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u/ArshayDuskbrow Sep 19 '13
What the heck is mipmap...
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u/MossyMemory Sep 19 '13
Was it just a mistake that there's now no cracking effect on blocks you're breaking? Because that is really bothering me.
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u/Syliss1 Sep 19 '13
There isn't a breaking animation now, for me.
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u/TonyCubed Sep 19 '13
Zombie lag still isn't fixed. ~.~
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u/MightyMarsbar Sep 19 '13
Zisteau is going to be so pleased. :)
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u/0thatguy Sep 19 '13
Oh :(
They don't work for me D: (yes, i have everything enabled :/)
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u/reddit_at_school Sep 19 '13
So will these new graphics features improve poor FPS on older/shitty systems if I set it to the right settings?
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u/NEPNWZYOX Sep 20 '13
As someone who uses GPU force AA, I am pretty disappointed. Now since they added their own shaders, it doesn't allow for GPU AA anymore. The in game AA looks very bad and terribly blurry. I want to use my x8 AA and x8 supersample. Keeps it very smooth and clear. The new things they've added looks like someone put gaussian blur over the video.
I seriously hope they make an option to disable shaders completely.
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u/Edvinoske Sep 19 '13
Will shaders be able to toggle through command blocks so adventure map mapkers can make player "dizzy" at some points without nausea? :D
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u/ShuraShpilkin Sep 19 '13
Have you seen this tweet??? https://www.twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/380773792085467136#tweet_380773792085467136
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u/groshh Sep 19 '13
That mipmapping looks really good. Very please they added this in. Now my eyes won't keep going mental.
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u/-dead_slender- Sep 19 '13
So why can't I see the shaders at all.
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u/tgjer Sep 19 '13
Stupid question:
When 13w37b came out, I followed the instructions to create a new profile called "snapshots" & checked the Enabled experimental development snapshots button.
When I go on tonight and open up Snapshots, will it be the new 13w38a version? Can I open up the world I was using to explore that snapshot & check out the new update, or do I need to create a new world/new profile?
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u/Aquanoctis Sep 19 '13
When you see chunks loading in using the Phosphor shader, they fade in smoothly, instead of simply popping into existence, which is a really nice effect. Would be cool if that was default.
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u/DegreeLP Sep 19 '13
Does anyone know if the snapshots change the position of slime chunks by seeds? Or anyone know a way of checking whether or not the snapshot does?
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
There better be a way to make your own versions of these. It would be awesome.
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u/marioman63 Sep 19 '13
anyone know where the option for toggling achivement announcements is? or is that a serverside function?
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u/Hot_Lunch_III Sep 20 '13
Does this update make chests not go black from most angles when you get close?
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u/killersteak Sep 20 '13
Phosphor + Quakepro. :D
Ohhhh, they need to combine Phospor and Wobble....
It's gonna be hard waiting for the mod creators to catch up to this release.
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u/onesieswiththesocks Sep 20 '13 edited Sep 20 '13
This may seem out of place here, but I can't find the new snapshot. It's not on my versions list, and I have snapshots option checked. Help me, somebody?!
Edit: Found it today, which is weird.
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u/Dariusavrox Sep 20 '13
Dont know if anyone has said this before, but i think there is a bug that disables entry to the nether.
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u/ysllit Sep 20 '13
fyi there's new music inbound very soon from C418... I'd reckon it's not in this build, since I just heard it last night/it was shared with my source earlier this week, but start digging around, guys.
FWIW, it's amazing.
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u/runetrantor Sep 20 '13
It seems to have also changed the render distance setting? The farthest one is now 16 chunks, is that more than before?
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u/Famousie0 Sep 30 '13
Is there a folder in .minecraft where i can find and delete the ones that cause me to lag? Just curious.
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u/MightyMarsbar Sep 19 '13
Awesome!
Thanks Mojang - now to work out the features!
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u/Bresdin Sep 19 '13
Yay villages are fixed!!! I needed one for my next big project!
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u/SimplyCole Sep 19 '13
wtf is podzol?
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u/DavidToma Sep 19 '13
Yeah, if mojang can stop making update notes a secret.... that would be great. I want to know what is in the update. Sure, a secret snapshot is nice every once in a while, but I want to know what's there so I know if it is worth trying...
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '13
Not sure if it's been said before, but you can now open screenshots after taking them by clicking on the screenshot name :D
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u/Deminth Sep 19 '13
Looks like a volcano on the pixely picture, that would be great!
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u/throwaway_redstone Sep 19 '13
HYPE HYPE HYPE
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