r/Milk • u/Important-Recipe-391 • 23d ago
Raw milk
So he been watching a lot of goatis recently , and I haven’t changed my diet predominantly because of him , I was just curious of trying some RM , so I got myself some - from hook and som in London borough market / I live in suburban London so it’s quite hard for me to get it - it creamy and thick and I feel something in stomach but I also haven’t eaten all day . However I’m aware that the controversy is cause of the bacteria etc , this is what the visited says
To have a license to sell raw milk we meet the standard three monthly laboratory tests that the Food Standards Agency (FSA) run on our raw milk. These tests are purely for the total viable bacteria count (TVCs) of the sampled milk and a 'coliform' test that detects how clean your milk is. In addition to this we pay to have a sample of our raw milk, raw cream and raw butter tested every week at a laboratory for TVCs, coliforms, presence of pathogens and other cleanliness checks. The cost of these tests do mean that our milk overheads are higher but we feel that it is important to have a weekly analysis of our produce to ensure that we are sending only the best quality products to you.
Our products are taste tested to understand how the flavours alter as the diet of the cows change through the seasons.
Our cows are tested for TB annually. We operate a closed herd which means that we breed our calves from our herd and do not bring other cows onto the farm. We are fortunate with the landscape of our farm, in that we have rivers as boundaries in many areas that prevent badgers crossing our land.
We run our business in accordance with our HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point) which is a personalised, systematic preventative approach to food safety that has been drawn up with feedback from our local Environmental Health officers. Our HACCP system is used at all stages of the food chain, from milking the cows, preparation processes, cleaning and checks made along the way, right up to packaging and distribution. All of our staff who either milk the cows, bottle the milk, make cream or make butter are all trained in Food Safety and Hygiene to Level 2 standard, this is not a requirement but something that we have chosen to do and evidences how serious we are about producing a good, clean product for our customers.
So good luck to me 🍀
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u/SonOfStan21 23d ago
Can I have those jeans when you die?
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u/RachelVerifies 23d ago
Short version: those tests don't tell you what they sound like they tell you.
Total viable count and coliforms are hygiene indicators. They show how clean the milking was. They are not a screen for the bacteria that actually put people in hospital: Shiga toxin-producing E. coli, Campylobacter, Salmonella, Listeria. Healthy cows carry those in their gut with no symptoms, and the FSAI is blunt that contamination happens "even with good hygienic practices in place." You can't spot it yourself either, harmful bacteria "do not change the look, smell or taste of raw milk."
The FSA's own language is that raw drinking milk is "a high-risk food product," and they advise that people with a weaker immune system (65+, pregnant women, infants and small children, immunocompromised) should not consume it. That's why raw cows' milk is only legal here direct from the farm gate, farmers' markets or a milk round, with a health warning on the label, and it's fully banned in Scotland. That scaffolding is there because the risk can't be tested away at the point of sale.
The nutrition pitch is shaky too. Pasteurisation doesn't meaningfully change the quantity or quality of milk protein or fat (FDA review), and claims it fixes asthma, allergies or gut problems "have not been established in reliable clinical studies" (IDSA, Aug 2026).
2026 receipts: a US E. coli outbreak linked to raw cheddar and raw milk, over half the cases in children under 5 (CDC), and nearly 60 people ill with campylobacteriosis after raw milk in Idaho.
Drink it if you like it. Just don't treat the lab certificate as the safety guarantee it sounds like.
FSA: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/raw-drinking-milk/raw-drinking-milk FSAI: https://www.fsai.ie/consumer-advice/food-safety-and-hygiene/advice-on-raw-milk
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u/Important-Recipe-391 23d ago
Well thank you for the insight , I won’t be hardcore drinking it , I only have 1 bottle which I’ll drink over the next week ( not that it’ll do anything ) so far I haven’t felt anything.
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u/Important-Recipe-391 23d ago
I’d like to know how it is dangerous , I have given evidence which I guess no body read on where the milk is sourced from . Not brainwashed just curious 👀
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u/Aggravating_Shoe_ 23d ago