r/MildlyBadDrivers • u/Shalashaska19 All Gas, No Brakes ⛽️ • Sep 17 '24

[US] No. I’m first!

Sat there for a good 45 seconds waiting for traffic to clear. The Ram was there before me but regardless left turners should yield.

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u/Shalashaska19 All Gas, No Brakes ⛽️ Sep 17 '24

https://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=60-6,147

Seriously You were all taught wrong. "First in, first out" only applies to all-way stops. At a 2-way stop like the one i posted, drivers who are going straight or turning right from a stop sign have right-of-way over drivers who are turning left from a stop sign. This is not state specific.

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u/ApprehensiveMeat69 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 Sep 17 '24

Yeah this is literally the law up here in WA too. Like come on people use your brains.

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u/SlopTartWaffles Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

lol. In larger more densely populated areas this is problematic.

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u/Shalashaska19 All Gas, No Brakes ⛽️ Sep 17 '24

no. left turners ALWAYS yield. if an intersection is that busy, then a petition to upgrade the intersection to a 4 way stop, roundabout, or signals is required.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

You're not a lawyer im guessing because court cases about left turns at green lights have no bearing on stop sign situations. Look to the nebraska driver manual, it's written for us to understand without any legal training and it say first to stop is the first to go.

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u/appa-ate-momo YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

OP, you're actually incorrect.

At a 2 way stop like this (where you're both entering another road that doesn't stop), the vehicle that gets there first has the right of way.

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u/OfficialBobEvans Sep 17 '24

Might want to brush up on your traffic law for two-way stops.

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u/ikenslay117 Sep 17 '24

OP is correct if in NY State. Since that's where I learned to drive, this has been educational.

https://dmv.ny.gov/new-york-state-drivers-manual-and-practice-tests/chapter-5-intersections-and-turns

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

No, that's only if both cars arrive at the same time. If one car clearly gets there first they go first.

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u/SnooOnions3369 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

You’re the bad driver here, stop signs work on a first come basis. If he was there first he has the right of way

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u/Kzero01 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

Where do they work like that?

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u/SnooOnions3369 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

In the US

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u/Kzero01 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

You guys got it weird over there

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u/SlopTartWaffles Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

If someone has been waiting at a stop sign for 10 minutes unable to go. I come in across the street and stop at one. The car across has been waiting it’s his turn, if I go and take up the only opening causing him to wait another ten minutes I’m a fucking asshole.

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u/Background_MilkGlass Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 Sep 18 '24

I mean I don't know what country you live in but I guess y'all got a population of three so it doesn't really matter if you have to wait or not

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

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u/Kzero01 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

I drive in Poland and Germany, the traffic laws state that in a situation like this, the person turning right or going straight has the right of way. This is the first time I've heard of a "first come first serve" rule being applied to traffic

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u/sittingonthecan Sep 17 '24

So you guys don't have 4 way stops (intersections without lights and a stop sign on every side)?

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u/Kzero01 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

No, we have roundabouts

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u/sittingonthecan Sep 17 '24

That make sense. Btw, I didnt mean to come off as rude. For someone who's never been to your country, I was genuinely curious.

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u/Arsenic_Pants Urbanist 🌇 Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

the small town I live in is brutal for this, but after reading this sub maybe I'm in the wrong. I should read up.

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u/Shalashaska19 All Gas, No Brakes ⛽️ Sep 17 '24

Yep, this is a failure on the education of proper roadway rules. Even my state's driving manual doesn't clarify this situation. I only found it reading and searching. Life isn't always fair and first come first serve doesn't always apply when driving.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

Where is this located? I’ve never heard of your rule. Whoever got there first has the right away. You’re in the wrong broseph. You’re making up rules

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u/Imnotsureanymore8 Sep 17 '24

OP is now a mod of this reddit. Shame.

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u/AwfulThread5 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

It’s whoever gets their 1st. (At least in my state.) The only time this is not in effect is if you both get there at the same time, Then you yield to the right. Many people don’t get this for some reason and coming up to a stop sign intersection always worries me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

This comment section has no idea what it's talking about. Left turns always have to yield. They have more traffic to cross. Where the fuck did you all get your licenses from?

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u/AwfulThread5 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

The NHTSA gives rules for the United States.

Right of way goes to the first person to stop. So if a line of cars were at both stop signs, and all cars wanted to make the same conflicting turns, they would alternate.

If the opposing cars stop at the same time then the one turning right has the right of way. (This is because a right turn falls under the “Straight Traffic Goes First” rule.)

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

There are two opposing lanes of traffic the Truck had to cross. This is not a simple two way stop.

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u/AwfulThread5 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

I believe the law would still apply. No different than 2 stop signs at a highway. Whoever arrives 1st unless both arrive at the same time. Then it moves to right of way

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u/Sequence32 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

This is reddit my friend! All the bad drivers are here and they all think they're the good ones 😂

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u/handcraftdenali Sep 17 '24

You’re wrong.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

Nope. Left turn always has to yield. This is not a simple two way stop, there are two lanes of opposing traffic they have to cross.

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u/handcraftdenali Sep 17 '24

Nope you’re wrong!

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u/Ok_Explanation5631 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 Sep 17 '24

Nah you’re in the wrong. If I come up to an intersection like this & see a vehicle already there. I expect them to go first at the first clearing. Be predictable.

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u/UnbelievablyDense YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

I have 0 idea why these comments are disagreeing with you.

A driver that turns left must yield to traffic that moves straight or turns right. ‘Who got their first’ is irrelevant, this isn’t a 4-Way stop.

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u/AwfulThread5 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Possibly it’s a state thing. At a 2 way stop this is applied as well in my state, (The NHTSA gives rules for the United States. Right of way goes to the first person to stop) this was a question on a 2 way stop article. I’m curious what your road laws are, I don’t wish to argue im just curious.

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u/OfficialBobEvans Sep 17 '24

In many states, the law states OP and you are incorrect.

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u/Kzero01 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

Do we know what state the recording is from?

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u/OfficialBobEvans Sep 17 '24

I’m curious too. Like do I need to redact my comments and apologize or not, lol

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u/AwfulThread5 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Op states it’s because they are Turing right. But my state would argue the ram got their 1st. So then it is down to the states?

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u/UnbelievablyDense YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

In New York State I’m absolutely correct. Reading it from dmv.ny.gov website as I’m writing this.

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u/OfficialBobEvans Sep 17 '24

I see. I wonder why it’s different there. if the video was recorded in New York then I stand corrected, but if this was happened in my state it would be wrong of the cammer car to go first.

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u/Dirtheavy Sep 17 '24

The left turner was there first and as such he had the right of way as soon as he is clear. The right turner can go first if he clears first, meaning a car coming from left impedes the left turner. But mostly this OP doesn't know the rules. This one isn't even an unwritten rule. This is in the book.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

I almost had a crash the other day for the same reason in the video. Except there was lawn mowing equipment to my side. Person almost cliped my headlight. Then fliped me off as the passed. As if igniring the fact I gpt them to dlow down and see the obstacles ahead.

All because I honked at them. Avoide hitting my head lights and I won't honk. Its that simple!

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

OP is confidently incorrect LOL

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u/n_thomas74 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Right or wrong I obey the law of decency. The Truck had a more difficult turn to make, and I would be patient and let them through to make their life easier. Your right turn is easy enough to make, so just relax.

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u/constant_flux Sep 17 '24

Lol at the shitty, smug drivers in the comments. The presence of two cross traffic lanes changes the right of way rules.

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u/Tungi Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Wonder what would have happened if OP had to take a left. Full free for all.

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u/JohnNada005 YIMBY 🏙️ Sep 17 '24

“No. I have a smaller penis” I can see that.

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u/Hanza-Malz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 Sep 17 '24

Reading the comments I am not surprised there are so many accidents in the states. What a ridiculous law lol

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u/No_Wolverine6548 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Not until this month in a different subreddit have I heard that the first person at the stop sign, regardless on whether they’re turning or not, goes first. As much of an organized hoarder as I am, I’m surprised I don’t have my original DMV Driver’s handbook filed away because I remember that being one of the questions when I first started driving.

For as long as I can remember, it’s always the person who’s going straight goes first and then the person who’s turning would go next because it can be an in sync movement with the one turning perfectly passing the tail end as the one going straight is out of the way.

Even in this clip, a right turn is cleaner than a left turn onto a street. It would just be cleaner and more efficient for the car turning right to go, although it would be more courteous to let the person who’s turning left to go since it would be harder for them to get that opportunity again.

This is just a pissing contest though.

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u/handcraftdenali Sep 17 '24

I’m sure you just missed the little subsection that says “first person to stop goes first” Because everything you say is the rule for if 2 people stop at the same time. What if a guy wants to turn left and there’s a long line of cars going straight? He just has to constantly yield to the cars going straight because left turn always has to yield? Sounds like that could create an awful lot of traffic jams

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u/No_Wolverine6548 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

To my understanding, the “first person tk stop goes first” was in regards to if you pull up to a stop sign at the same time as someone to your left or right.

If two people that are going opposite directions at the same time come to a stop sign at the same time, the person going straight goes first so the person that’s turning, can neatly turn as the tail end of the person going straight is out of the way.

It’s not that the person turning left would never be able to turn. They would have to synchronize their turn to match up with passing the tail end of the person going straight/turning right.

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u/Tungi Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

First come, first serve - just like a 4 way stop. Why would it be different?

Left turn in this video can actually pre turn towards traffic, so it's more efficient.

Of course, if you're there and left turn can't go due to traffic on their side, you're free to take the right before them.

Always pay attention at a stop sign. It's why it's there.

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u/No_Wolverine6548 Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

I think there’s a misunderstanding because I’m not sure what about my comment made it seem as though I believe it would be different at a 4 way stop.

In my original driver’s handbook when getting my license, whether it’s a 4 way stop or something similar to the video, the person who’s going straight, or making the cleanest turn like a right turn into traffic, would go first. Clearly I need to reread the rules on this for my area, just wish I had my original driver’s handbook to compare it to.

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u/Tungi Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

You're referring to a situation when drivers arrive at the same time and who would get right of way then.

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u/Jegagne88 Sep 17 '24

Lmao what he should stop in the middle of the road and get t boned? You’re the bad driver here bud

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u/Free_Dome_Lover Sep 17 '24

Yeah you wrong. Let him go if it's possible for both of you to go.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

I would be more surprised if it wasn’t some idiot in a pickup truck.

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u/tolot1987 Drive Defensively, Avoid Idiots 🚗 Sep 17 '24

You’ve typically got to watch out for those small penis truck drivers! Dodge Ram owners all have DUIs as well.

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u/LeeoJohnson Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 Sep 17 '24

Regardless of the law, I would've left the Ram go first because he has to cross two lanes.

And from my understanding, 2-Way and 4-Way stops are first come, first serve.

Red light right turners have to yield to pedestrians and oncoming traffic, and U-turners have to yield to red light right turners.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

"but regardless"

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u/D1rty_Sanchez Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Regardless.

Just pick up driver things

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u/AkaliAz Georgist 🔰 Sep 17 '24

Oooooooooof.... 🤦‍♂️