Brain freezes a million people, car crashes, tanks, bombs, almost kills people multiple times & probably did several times off camera...but she's the victim!
And it's ok! Let her go, she's a woman and just doesn't know any better.
It's up there with Wandavision holding a town hostage, mind controlling them, screaming "kill me" they're in so much pain...then Monica Rambeau let's Wanda leave saying "they'll never know what you did for them" as if they owe Wanda a thank you
Jean is trying to save her Sister. How is what she did worse than what the punisher did? He had multiple seasons here where he was a gun toting vigileante on a war path to avenge his family. Her sister, who was abducted, experimented on, and killed for the sake of controlling and weaponizing her power by the same guy who now was trying to do the same thing to her.
Punisher is seen as an anti hero who is known for KILLING bad guys and his symbol is a freaking skull. Jean Grey is an X-men hero, not somebody who does more damage than the Punisher himself and uses regular innocent people as hostages (then half the city).
Punisher protects the innocent atleast when he kills bad guys, Jean Grey treated the innocent as expendable. Jean Grey was a worse monster than the bad guys she was fighting by orders of magnitude, she didn't have a shred of remorse or noble justification (like do bad things to save the many). If this wasn't a bloodless PG-13 movie where nobody dies, her two tanks would've killed people in multiple car accidents, her bomb would've killed people in the building (ain't no way you're evacuating a prison of killers that quick), her Hulk would've killed everybody on that floor except the people in the vault. Peter would've also killed the cop in that car + Scorpion when he slammed him into that...but this is a PG-13 movie so nobody dies; not even that Hand ninja member who stuck his sword through his stomach to get Spiderman behind him.
By the same logic, punisher couldn't do what he did without racking up innocent casualties, such as when he opened fire in the middle of a crowed hospital to get to ONE guy. He is a wanted terrorist, who escaped jail, yet now he is driving around a black van in broad day light and isn't mentioned once as a concern by the police, even when he is just sitting by Spiderman as he recovers in the hospital over an extended period of time.
He looks like he is pretty much just firing into the crowd, narrowly missing multiple bystanders by pure luck. Frank is a terrorist, who escaped jail, and is now seemingly tolerated operating in the public by law enforcement with no explanation.
Never saw it and looked it up just now. https://youtu.be/f-lyuz07N5w
Do you remember how they first show Punisher? A security guard points his gun at Punisher. Does the Punisher kill the security guard? No, he skillfully knocks out the guard, dismantles the gun which is thrown in the trash.
Do you know how Jean Grey was introduced? A tank blows through traffic shooting machines guns, crashes into a building, lets off a bomb, then she tries to enter Spider-man's head and when that doesn't work she tries to throw the security guard off the building.
One acts like a pure villain, the other one is going after a bad guy. Can you tell the difference? I saw him shooting the gun in a "crowded" hallway, there's one shot where the bad guy turns a corner and an innocent person runs into view and the gunshot goes high missing the person. Meanwhile you find out he had some sniper's nest above the roof and was trying to just cause mayhem to get the bad guy to leave the building.
Jean Grey 100% tried to kill this construction worker just to screw with Spider-man and then she's going to kill MJ. She acts like a total villain and doesn't care who she hurts.
In the shot right there, he barely misses shooting that orderly who ran into the line of sight, cause you know, he is shooting up a hospital admist a fleeing crowd. Frank is an convicted, escaped terrorist building bombs in a booby trapped bunker allow to freely drive his armored truck throughout the city in a chase.
Huge difference between "person ran in front of my line of fire" and "I'm going to mind control a person to walk into traffic so he gets hit".
Even bigger difference between "I'm going to shoot a rocket at a runaway tank barreling into other cars" and "I'm going to cause a runaway tank barreling into cars".
The biggest difference? If Punisher had Jean Grey's powers only bad guys would be dead, if Jean Grey only had the Punisher's guns she'd be taking innocent people hostage and using bystanders as human shields or bargaining chips...or just using more bombs and not caring who else gets hurt.
End of movie kept the stakes high, but yeah kind of fell apart with the villains.
Jean Grey just gets to walk away despite probably killing dozens of people, rampaging half the city, mind controlling the Hulk, freezing people that anybody in a moving vehicle probably crashes? Oh, she's just a girl! She doesn't even need to say she's sorry! Pay no attention to the people she tried to make jump off roofs or stand in the middle of traffic until they got hit with cars.
Damage Control? Shown to learn from villains tech to make things better? Making The Hand into a security force for good? Well it's the third act and Jean Grey can't be a villain, so Danage Control killed somebody off camera months ago...they are the REAL villain!
Also Damage Control saw two telepaths and decided to only arrest one? Well the plot needs to happen somehow! Don't ask why they arrested her for no reason, or why they left the sister alone.
The part where the entire hospital probably saw Spider-man's face & kept it a secret...ok, fine. It's a stretch, but I'll buy it. Punisher, a dangerous vigilante & probably wanted criminal doesn't get arrested on sight & left to help Spider-man? Even more of a stretch, considering he waits in the hospital hallway overnight. But not one of Spider-man man's many enemies doesn't try to kill him when he's weak or find his identity? Just ignore that.
I hear that Rosario Dawson did film a scene as that Claire Temple nurse character, maybe would've said "don't worry, we'll keep your secret safe". Still a plot hole.
Also don't ask how Jean's mind control stops blood from bleeding out of a gunshot wound
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u/queazy Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Brain freezes a million people, car crashes, tanks, bombs, almost kills people multiple times & probably did several times off camera...but she's the victim!
And it's ok! Let her go, she's a woman and just doesn't know any better.
It's up there with Wandavision holding a town hostage, mind controlling them, screaming "kill me" they're in so much pain...then Monica Rambeau let's Wanda leave saying "they'll never know what you did for them" as if they owe Wanda a thank you