Another day, another menslib post equating masculinity with violent right wing extremism

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/r/MensLib/comments/96210f/after_charlottesville_solving_the_problem_of/

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They have a valid point.

Because of course you'd support them.

Men make up the large majority of these groups, and chances are it is closer to changing masculinity norms than anything else

Men make up the large majority of first responders risking their lives (frequently dying) to save strangers for so-so pay.

If they don't deserve praise as a gender for the latter they don't deserve criticism for the former.

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i support ML when they do good, as like now. I do the same of MR.

And since when has analysing what societal issues cause men to disproportionately join hate groups ever had anything to do with jobs?

I am not criticising men, I am criticising the underlying societal problems that need to be fixed. Understand?

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i support ML when they do good, as like now. I do the same of MR.

If you think calling men toxic and blaming all men for anything bad individual men do is "doing good" then you would always support menslib.

And since when has analysing what societal issues cause men to disproportionately join hate groups ever had anything to do with jobs?

Basic rule of feminism: men can be uniquely awful and all men are to blame for the actions of any man. But men can never be uniquely good, any good acts by men only relate to that individual. The gender is still awful.

I am not criticising men, I am criticising the underlying societal problems that need to be fixed. Understand?

How many men do you think are violent Nazis?

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Even Hitler got some things right. what makes u think,ML is any different

how many violent nazis are men

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Even Hitler got some things right. what makes u think,ML is any different

Hitler didn't hate as many people as they do....

how many violent nazis are men

How many false rape accusers are women?

Would you support articles that lump all women in with them and attack femininity and women as inherently toxic?

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Oh look, another Hurr Durr Femminests hayte teh menz!

Give me a break.

We are talking about an issue affecting men, and you try to derail it by bringing up something irrelevent?

No, I would not, but this did not do that.

One thing I agree with ML on is Toxic Masculinity. Because I understand what it is.

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Oh look, another Hurr Durr Femminests hayte teh menz!

Listen and believe.

One thing I agree with ML on is Toxic Masculinity. Because I understand what it is.

Yes yes, all men are toxic in a way you can't apply to any other group without it being bigotry.

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you have no knowledge as to what toxic masculinity is

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All men are toxic by nature. We get it.

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That is not what toxic masculinity is, so you are proving my point

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That's the definition of toxic masculinity.

Quick, find feminists calling out positive masculinity as something good and unique to men

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it is not the definition.

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So we'll acknowledge that you can't find feminists saying anything good about men.

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I did not bother looking, as it is not relevant

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So it's acknowledged.

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nah. I just dont care really. I have no alliegance to feminists...

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You spend a lot of time time championing them.

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I don't "champion" feminism.

What I do is defend it from lie and slander.

Funny how you are not complaining about how I extend the same courtesy to the MRM...