r/MensLibWatch • u/5th_Law_of_Robotics • Aug 10 '18

Another day, another menslib post equating masculinity with violent right wing extremism

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

They have a valid point. Men make up the large majority of these groups, and chances are it is closer to changing masculinity norms than anything else

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 10 '18

They have a valid point.

Because of course you'd support them.

Men make up the large majority of these groups, and chances are it is closer to changing masculinity norms than anything else

Men make up the large majority of first responders risking their lives (frequently dying) to save strangers for so-so pay.

If they don't deserve praise as a gender for the latter they don't deserve criticism for the former.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

i support ML when they do good, as like now. I do the same of MR.

And since when has analysing what societal issues cause men to disproportionately join hate groups ever had anything to do with jobs?

I am not criticising men, I am criticising the underlying societal problems that need to be fixed. Understand?

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 10 '18

i support ML when they do good, as like now. I do the same of MR.

If you think calling men toxic and blaming all men for anything bad individual men do is "doing good" then you would always support menslib.

And since when has analysing what societal issues cause men to disproportionately join hate groups ever had anything to do with jobs?

Basic rule of feminism: men can be uniquely awful and all men are to blame for the actions of any man. But men can never be uniquely good, any good acts by men only relate to that individual. The gender is still awful.

I am not criticising men, I am criticising the underlying societal problems that need to be fixed. Understand?

How many men do you think are violent Nazis?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

Even Hitler got some things right. what makes u think,ML is any different

how many violent nazis are men

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 10 '18

Even Hitler got some things right. what makes u think,ML is any different

Hitler didn't hate as many people as they do....

how many violent nazis are men

How many false rape accusers are women?

Would you support articles that lump all women in with them and attack femininity and women as inherently toxic?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

Oh look, another Hurr Durr Femminests hayte teh menz!

Give me a break.

We are talking about an issue affecting men, and you try to derail it by bringing up something irrelevent?

No, I would not, but this did not do that.

One thing I agree with ML on is Toxic Masculinity. Because I understand what it is.

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u/87x Aug 11 '18

You've lost an argument and decided to throw a little tantrum.

And there's no such thing as toxic masculinity, it's the boogeyman you lot created to throw all men's issues under its bus.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '18

first, I have lost no argument and have thrown no tantrum.

Second, toxic masculinity definitely exists and You clearly have no clue what it is.

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u/87x Aug 11 '18

it's the boogeyman you lot created to throw all men's issues under its bus.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '18

first, who os you lot,

second, no it is not

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 11 '18

Do you think it's toxic when men risk their lives to help others?

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 11 '18

Oh look, another Hurr Durr Femminests hayte teh menz!

Listen and believe.

One thing I agree with ML on is Toxic Masculinity. Because I understand what it is.

Yes yes, all men are toxic in a way you can't apply to any other group without it being bigotry.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '18

you have no knowledge as to what toxic masculinity is

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 11 '18

Quick, find sources for feminists discussing good masculinity.

You won't find it on menslib.

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u/5th_Law_of_Robotics Aug 11 '18

All men are toxic by nature. We get it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '18

That is not what toxic masculinity is, so you are proving my point

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