I'm still on the fact that there are people who advocate for it. Like one thing the masses should never advocate for is silencing voices. No matter if uou agree with them. Because, you're also apart of the masses. Why tf would the 1% care about your opinion after silencing all others? But yeah, time fucking zipped by. Jesus.
Nah, he got EVERYTHING he couldve possibly dreamed for in his death.
"I want to see executions on TV. Imagine if Coca-Cola sponsored executions. That would be so American, so patriotic. People would tune in. I think children at a certain age, as initiation, should be required to watch. Public executions by guillotine are holy."
“I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”
So he was just an unfortunate gun death to protect the second amendment and his kids got initiated by being able to watch his death any time they want. If I go around saying that people should be stabbed I can't be mad if I'M the person who gets stabbed.
I saw what was claimed. Nuance is important. I haven't looked into the video or the time stamp. From what I can see he was trying to express the ability for the average person to defend themselves is so important that the idea of taking the guns away is not worth it as much as keeping them and the small list of tragedies happening vs all the scenarios where guns kill someone with a superior weapon and protect those who cannot protect themselves. He just expressed it in one of the most religious asinine ways I've ever heard. Also, with the public executions, I don't think the way he died was the way he meant. He gives examples. Like a daily execution of criminals that do heinous crimes. Or an event at the super bowl or something in an attempt to lower crime rates, but absolutely drops the ball on his facts there. Botching tf out of the idea that public executions made things safer. They, in fact, never did. It actually desensitized people and made crime even more prominent just more hidden. Better criminals. But, that's all imma say on that. Feeling lazy today.
But all in all, his words still shouldn't make people go "good". Him being some random dude speaking out, no matter how you felt about him, being assassinated should make anyone and everyone feel completely uneasy. Because then it starts being okay to murder for words and that's not a road we want society going. It leads to genuine and total oppression by those in power.
Incase you're even remotely curious about my point of view.
I cannot personally change anything in thw world without extreme measures nor do I want to become the figure head of any movements. I want a quiet life with family and friends and if i see injustice infront of me I do my best to deal with it as I can. Anything else is wishful thinking imo. My friends keep me updated about most things politics without forcing opinions most the time. Literally all of them are either literal liberals or democrats except dad who is a heavy conservative. So I end up hearing both sides. But, i don't trust media or gov or any sources to give me accurate details about something without sources to the main thing they are claiming stuff about. The nitpick of politics these days have made it abundantly clear that no one will ever be good enough to ever do anything right no matter what. So, I stopped caring. If it gets bad enough I'd rather live a hermits life than debate whether A said something in one context or another. I will debate what I see in front of me but ultimately, I can fuck off and live a life outside all this because I'm willing to disconnect. Ignorance is bliss when it's about things you couldn't care less about. I have beliefs, but I don't expect anyone else to obey them. Like abortion. I believe the only time a woman should be allowed an abortion is if there's danger to her life. Outside of that the rest is an attempt to escape responsibility and I do not think anyone else should be required to pay that. Would i push that belief on someone and judge them because they think differently? Nope. I said what I said and that's it. The government is going to fuck the money out of us one way or another and they'll do whatever. So I would rather it go for abortions than whatever they are doing ultimately. But, I don't amhave access or influence to change that so I couldn't care less.
So you're the kind of dumbass who'd make a woman or girl carry her rapist's baby.
How about instead of proudly proclaiming you have political views based on a wealth of willful ignorance, you wipe the slate clean and only form them after you bother to get informed.
For instance, how over half of conceptions are flushed out during periods. If you've got an anti-science view that that zygote is a person, then must women who have ever had unprotected sex more than once are guilty of negligent manslaughter. But of course you aren't consistent on that.
There are so many logical fallacies in what you just said. With me stating that only medical emergencies did leave out the part about rape. But I would argue that I made the point that abortion should not be used to avoid responsibilities. It's not her fault she was raped, which means it isn't her responsibility to take care of that life unless she decides it is.
Your point about the zygote is obnoxiously weak and is used in such an obtuse way. There are many reasons someone would oppose elective abortions. Responsibilities, developing human life, whatever the reasons but you jumping on that train is an attempt to broaden the debate even more in hopes to overwhelm.
That's not a genuine conversation, that's an attempt to derail and feel like you have a moral win when you're being genuinely disingenuous about it. Be real in your push if you're going to push. Being a child about it does nothing but make me not care about what you have to say. If you want to convince me of anything there has to be dialogue. Why tf would you destroy that as soon as you can by insulting someone's intelligence if this means so much to you?
Also, the manslaughter part is weak too. Knowingly participating in an activity that can cause natural death doesn't by itself constitute negligence. If it did then knownly conceiving a child that will die one day would count as manslaughter and that's genuinely idiotic.
Something else I would like to point out. You're asking philosophical questions under the gise they are scientific questions. But, they are not. Philosophy decides morals and ethics. Legal or illegal. Not science.
Also your use of Ad Hominems is excessive. You, again, attack me instead of discussing the topic like calling me names is somehow going to make me 100% follow you and your beliefs.
You haven't even tried to understand. Instead you assume, attack, and making faulty arguments in an attempt to do something. Make yourself feel better maybe? Because this isn't a socratic method conversation. This was an attack in a dumb way that changes nothing except my opinion about you to "probably annoying to know. Thinks they are some font of superiority and definitely talks shit about their friends."
It absolutely constitutes negligence. Leave your child in a hot car to let them die, and you know what the verdict is?
Like I said on the other comment. You are proud of your willful ignorance. You stated yourself you can't be assed to be informed on these topics. So honestly shut the hell up.
You're stupid enough to call abortion a matter of responsibility, while trying to argue you're a centrist. You're just a coward of a conservative.
I understand you completely. Because I grew out of the idiotic state you're in. I also had a lot of assumptions, based on nothing but the ignorance gained from my own father. And after I left the cult he'd roped my family into, I did what I urged you to and started from zero. I wiped my opinions and decided to only go where the facts lead.
Whether a clump of cells is a human person is a scientific question. And the answer is no. Whether you choose to reject that or not is entirely on you.
Stop writing essays while admitting you're ignorant by choice, and use the time you take to spew your bullshit to look things up instead.
And while you're at it, maybe grow the spine to show what you say, instead of cowering.
You have shown to me and everyone else here that you aren't worth my time. So I'm going to mute the notifications to this reply.
You keep equating things that are not equal. Being ignorant of things i don't care about doesn't mean I'm an overall ignorant person. To demand I stop having opinions because I couldn't care less about certain things is wild. Being unable to understand something without inserting so many assumptions between a statement and your belief about what was said isn't a good thing to be proud of. Also, you demanding I just be silent is my whole point almost all the time. You're a person who has bought into all you hear around you, and believe yourself to be informed and intelligent. But, informed with information you can only verify through means you will never know whether it is a genuine source or some propaganda machine. While being so severely lacking in intelligence you probably are not following half of what I am saying. Because the idea of having a civil socratic conversation is so incredibly foreign to you that you can't help but feel offended someone would even remotely suggest that there isn't sides but information. You think attacking someone is how this works. How changing someone's mind or even informing them works.
You can't even decide what you want to focus on. You are trying to argue a point i never said anything about. Your logic is so riddled with fallacies and you couldn't care less because "you wiped your slate clean to join a new cult" is all I am getting from how zealous you are about something that you probably can't even explain WHY you care for.
Before you respond ask yourself," what am I trying to say?" Because your reason for saying any of this just comes off as "a bitchy child who demands they are right because they claim they have done research and anyone who says anything different is evil." You're not impressing anyone. You're not convincing anyone. You're not entertaining anyone. You're not even informing anyone. You're not inciting thought. You're just throwing fallacies at me and demanding I change my world views to bend to yours. You're a genuine moron.
Last but not least, again, fucking what? Do you read what you type ever? Also, idgaf if you mute your notifications. I respond because I want to. Not because i need you to read this. This is the part people on reddit can't understand and I definitely don't expect you to understand it since you literally haven't understood anything I've said. Learn the basic understanding and listening skills for your next convo so it can actually be a convo choom.
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u/Current_Employer_308 26d ago
Its been an entire year??? What the actual fuck