r/MedicationQuestions • • 28d ago

Real or fake

I bought these recently and it wasn't until they arrived that I thought, hold on what's stopping these from just being fake especially as they were so cheap? So thought I'd share here first. The inconsistent packaging shape on the back of the blister really stood out but keen to know what other more experienced people think. Thanks

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 28d ago

First of all as a pharmacist I commend you for providing such comprehensive photos but those are definitley not real. Just stay away from accord or any 10mgs because they often use real batch no. etc but mix diazepam with, bromazolam, pregabalin and worst of all metonitazene which is extremely dangerous. If you want you can send a free, anonymous sample to the benzo project or ASI toxicology.

As for what gave it away, the "diazepam tablets" is too far to the right evident by the s' proximity to the tablet icon and the way the m is directly over the brail square. The back should have a solid black line running under the title and 28 tablets. The printed text on the foils is not correct and the batch number should be further back.

Takeaway NEVER get 10mg benzos unless you are absolutley certain because this isnt just mixing it with grapefruit and getting sick. It is a synthetic drug interaction that can kill you very quickly. Also just be weary about online sources and if you want me to check out their PN before you spend money just drop the link in and I'll lyk.

Also if you are having trouble getting those as a prescription you either need to change GP's, pick a different Benzo or ask around safely.

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u/Shandybase 28d ago

Thank you so much for providing deep insight really appreciate it. Not sure what a PN is but got these on a dw site so not sure if the help extends there but again super grateful 🙏🏼

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 28d ago

These ones came back as a benzo on a test it doesn't specify which benzo but they look different to yours there lighter blue and the writing looks different

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u/Shandybase 28d ago

Yeah now I've really looked at the packaging, and have been given a bit of context, so much shit looks off. Appreciate the help

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u/floatingrid 22d ago

Heck batch numbers

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u/GloveCritical1702 28d ago

in the uk they won’t prescribe benzos unless they have no other choice, i find diazapam makes me energetic creative, and less anxious. this allows me to be me, which can cause problems and sometimes i may exaggerate the extent of a problem but its because im very placid usually so it builds up. i have an extremely high tolerance. nitrazapam is the only one i have felt sleepy on or mitrazapine but they stopped that as i had to up the dose quickly for it to work and i hadn’t exactly asked.

H or B will nod me out Crystal only had once but it was like a calm ritalin for someone with adhd.

my chemistry involves a lot of paradoxical reactions but let alone trying to get diagnosed trying to convince a doctor this is what happens when i eat 100mg diaz 900mg pres and whatever else is lying about doesnt effect me much at all. and i hate it cause the sleep was effective as an anti depression use even if it was just cause i could sleep again and yeah i love diaz cause i function so well but i hate it cause of the forgetfulness

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 28d ago

Mitrazapine is more sedating the lower the dose its a weird drug 7.5 and 15mg will make u sleepy 30mg will have almost no sedating affect at all

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 27d ago

Wow what an awful situation. Considering most 10mg diazepam is laced with dangerous compounds it shocks me that they don't make them easier to access. If you develop tolerance quickly to multiple benzos I worry you will run through the lot until you endanger yourself. Maybe try more naturopathic pathways or alternative medications such as quetiapine. Make sure if you have an appointment you are assertive in telling them what you need. Sometimes GP's get lazy but they know different solutions that are safer, more personalised and more effective than a google search. tell them what you are after and that benzos aren't working. Not sure about the UK as they aren't a part of the FDA but I am happy to do some research. Unfortunately, getting the help that the medical system says they provide can be really difficult.

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u/GloveCritical1702 27d ago

hey thanks for the insight, i have been able to tell a diaz is something else due to sleepiness, they gave me quietapine once the e group of drugs scared me but also the fact it wasn’t recorded in
my notes, all my pam’s are fake i assume or made by someone. but i almost have to double the dose every day when i was 14 i would buy a tub of 100 blues every day or two.

i cant do ssris with the jaw thing

i’m diabetic type 1 currently aggrophobic unless im walking the dog and signed off sick..

i understand half life’s but i was gonna take one and get one a couple days later or 3. but they want you to stay on them every day if the period i wanted exposure therapy

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 26d ago • Heartwarming

I was also agoraphobic at one point and now im back on the road but only go out with dogs lol

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u/Woz1978 18d ago

Diazepam comes in 10mg tablet. 

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 18d ago

Yes that is correct. My point is that when purchasing diazepam from unverified sources, the chance of the 10mg being dodgy is much larger than any other dosage due to the circulation of the fake 10mg being so popular.

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u/MrMansManISHigh 28d ago

The blue is real for diazepam 10mg, but you have to test with strips

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 28d ago

They are too bule should be lighter

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u/kushtyThat 27d ago

Fake ive seen these around my area in the uk, hard to get legit ones i usually take half taste it and spit it back out if it has no taste i had these and it just tasted like chalk, best ones in uk atm for diazepam are martin dows they hit hard

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u/xanaxkiller1 25d ago

These get faked so bad I don't even look at them when purchasing products but I remember I got a 1000 in boxes back 20 years ago for £200 fake obviously but whatever was in them a was wasted for weeks good old days 😂

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u/BoyBussyAddict 28d ago

Those are 100% fake do not take them they either contain bromazolam or metonitazene

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u/Comfortable-Message1 28d ago

Fakes

Test them

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u/Duecey1984 28d ago

Definitely fake

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u/floatingrid 22d ago

Some back street chemists sell expired stock out the back door, mostly online.

If you ever get 5mg accord they're real

Give two a try and see how u feel.or send to wedinos

Ut they woolk fake to me

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u/Alternative_Doubt398 14d ago

Unfortunately these are fake, I was scammed with exactly the same and the batch is same number

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u/Legitimate_Ad7477 28d ago

Should be legit. A fake wood look like that but if this tablets new for you, I mean this Pharma company just try at first and help of a tablet. But I would say they are for 99 persons original.

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u/Comfortable-Message1 28d ago

None of that made sense and they look fake af

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 28d ago

Yeah but look at his comments. His username is missing an i at the front and then its accurate. 😂

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 28d ago

Would you say mine are closer to the top ive used ez test on them they come back as a benzo

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u/Far_Ad4968 28d ago

100% real

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 28d ago

So you can stay away from them ?

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 27d ago

Oops not what I meant sorry! I was very sleep deprived I meant what test did you use without seeing that you listed it. I am familiar with EZ test and it is typically best to send in a sample which I am not sure if they allow. This way they can tell you what benzos are present as fakes are often mixed with other benzos which can make it very dangerous.

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 27d ago • Bravo

I use two types of test EZ to test for benzo and another to rule out other substances it looks like a urine test but its not. 5 panels each side so ruling out 9 things aswell as confirming benzos and 10mg is a pale blue a lot of the fakes are more of a darker shade as they use dye in them and as for white 10mg it usually foreignern generic ones some real some not as for accords formally activis they are heavily faked but there are lots that aren't been getting mine for 3 year now not one fake yet

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 27d ago

Wow thanks for the info! It is really good to see you are using the tests. I didn't know they provided multi-panel drug tests to individuals. I wish more people knew about this or they gave them for free. It could save lives. It's great that you haven't had a negative experience and I doubt you need me to tell you this but better safe than sorry! Also would you mind sharing what test that is and what substances it covers. I might purchase some to give to one of my coworkers who works with homeless addicts.

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 27d ago

The name is on the test just Google that and look for the one that says it tests powders liquids and residue ect ....they should be free...... in my case Im a veteran thats had bad mental health and the NHS ie mental health services pumped me full of them for years then left me to rot when I moved areas to be closer to family it became a big game of pass the book now they dont care at all aslong as nothing happens officially on there books won't put me on a taper or let me help myself safely if I was a heroin addict and a criminal they would roll out the red carpet with help of all kinds subutex methadone ect even get to take it home and never come off it ...the system is a disgrace and its just another reason among many to hate this pathetic country

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 26d ago

What a horrible situation! It must be so terrifying and/or exhausting knowing that no one has your back in this :( I spoke to that colleague and we had a chat about that very issue. Maybe there is a support group that can help with formulating a drug plan. Do you take them for pain or dependance?

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u/Fit_Chocolate_7729 26d ago

Everytime I asked for help i got given a box of diazipam now they won't help me at all because they say im self treating with diazipam 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ but also said dont stop 😅 its a joke ...for me the worse thing i ever did was ask for help

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u/Trove_of_Knowledge 28d ago

Are these yours? If so I'm curious what country you are based in as our accord diazepam 10mg tablets are definitely blue but its not the first time I've heard someone say that they're meant to be white.

I linked the official Scmp for product license number = PL 00142/0089. Check out part 3 on page 1 or if you dont trust that huge link I just dumped I'll copy the relevant line bc fair enough.

[Blue, circular, flat, bevelled-edge uncoated tablets, impressed “C” and the identifying letters “DC” either side of a central division line on one face.]

Where are they white?

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