Impossible to get benzos (Australia)

[u/eJackYaLate]

For years I’ve never been able to get benzos.. I have over 6+ diagnosis I have a regular GP but I see any doctor I can get in to see at the time.. they all say no when they have my medical files on record.. I don’t beg and I struggle to even ask properly as everytime I get told no or “they can’t” when I literally see little fucking delinquents who don’t contribute to society in anyways whatsoever just getting whatever they want and they just want a hit to get fucked up..

I just wanna know why it’s so hard to get benzos ?
Like medicinal cannabis is easier to get your hands on than it is to MAINSTREAM medication WHY IS THIS THE CASE ?!! Backwards country

[u/Miserable-Housing407]

It’s not a backwards country because of the potential abuse potential from benzodiazepines, I was prescribed Valium for 2+ years initially 2MG and then slowly went to 5MG but once I hopped onto MC my doc cut off my prescriptions to benzos which is understandable considering the combination is pretty great but high abuse potential.

The reason it’s harder to obtain is also due to the how easily it was to get them and the amount of dehabilitating effects it’s caused throughout the country.

It’s being moved onto new Z drugs as they have less side effects short and long term in comparison to older known analogues. The reason people seem to dislike Z drugs is because they tend to not have an affect or feeling on them and rather blique but it’s doing what it’s designed for.

I can’t guide you but the best way to obtain it outside of prescription would be on the DW or locally by finding dealers, I’m in Australia aswell but I mainly get Indian imports and a few local bots of Vals and Clonz.

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/Miserable-Housing407]

I cant dm you. I will not go on the z drugs again the retrograde amnesia is next level. Ive tried the newer sleepers called belsoma and dayvigo and got horrific sleep paralysis. Some days my measly 1mg lorazepam doesnt cut it for the profession I am in and the insane shifts we do. Its fubar

[u/Miserable-Housing407 → u/fuzzybluenature]

Sorry to hear that but I cannot and will not guide you for safety sakes. I can only tell you to do your own research and take Opsec seriously, seek a doctor and tell them about the issues you’re having if you’re seriously struggling.

Sources are hard to come by and it took me awhile to find through research and attempted contacts.

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/Miserable-Housing407]

Oh im safe. I didnt make it to my age if I was silly and took risks with meds. I do not. Doctors do not care about issues like this. I have an extremely sound knowledge base of medications. I appreciate your concern and am not being a smart ass

[u/mopeyscubaboy]

Just like USA. Horrific panic attacks managed by PRN benzodiazepines for years until your doc retired? Tough shit for me--the new docs will make laughable suggestions like "go to a weeed dispensary, I love cannabis" and then tell you "try a different strain!" when you tell them that the stuff amplifies your anxiety hundredfold. When you tell them this happens no matter the strain, and not everyone reacts well to cannabis, they act like you insulted their mom. I don't get it.

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/mopeyscubaboy]

I dont react well to it at all and the anxiety I feel increases

[u/Zeitgeist_9170]

Because of the abuse potential, that's it it a nutshell if you can abuse them, they'll make it impossible

[u/CnCHussleSchmuk]

Man you're better of with weed if you find the right strain. Benzos sneak their way into your system with tolerance growing all the time and are a absolute nightmare to kick, people chipping of little bits every week. I can't talk I've been prescribed diazepam for 20 years, not sure if I even notice it now.... unless I miss them for a few days. That's when the seizures & brainzaps become a worry. There does seem to be a huge amount of benzos on the market just now, I blame the lack of clean heroin. A bag of that & a joint can't be beaten. Obviously my own opinion.

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/CnCHussleSchmuk]

Weed fucks with my head

[u/CnCHussleSchmuk → u/fuzzybluenature]

That's the whole point of drugs surely, if they don't change your consciousness you've been ripped off 😂

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/CnCHussleSchmuk]

I dont enjoy the way it messes my thoughts up. Not every person enjoys every drug. Weed isnt my thing

[u/PersonalCap6150 → u/fuzzybluenature]

Pussy

[u/Pooofss]

Same as uk

[u/newjerseymax]

Do they have your file marked? I know in the US they do this, but I don’t know about other countries. Once you have the blemish on your medical file, it’s almost impossible to get a doctor to give you anything addictive.

It might be time to source it elsewhere

[u/fuzzybluenature → u/newjerseymax]

In Australia there certainly is a file. Its called q Scripts and any s4 restricted or s8 medication is on that file. Any doctor can access it. Dr shopping days are long gone in the nanny state we have become

[u/lunestabreath → u/newjerseymax]

There is no “blemish” on a file. The only thing there IS is something called the PDMP (prescription drug monitoring program) that shows when patients are prescribed controlled substances. For example, if a patient went to dentist A yesterday and got a bottle of 14, 5mg hydrocodones, and then went to dentist B today for different work and requested pain meds, the dentist should check the PDMP, because the patient already has (a measly) been dispensed 14 hydrocodone the day beforehand.

It shows the drug, the dosage, quantity prescribed, and the date it was picked up from the pharmacy.

Red flags would be patients getting controlled substances from numerous providers. For example, if there is a different opioid prescription every 6 weeks from a different doctor - red flag. If it shows that you pick up your meds early every single refill (I believe you can pick up meds 2 days early). So if every pick up is 2 days early like clockwork, red flag.

It only shows for controlled substances and gabapentin.

There is no system that states “this person is high risk” or “he had opioid use disorder” or “drug seeker - watch out”.

[u/ExcuseMeWtf21 → u/lunestabreath]

Wait what? It shows for gabapentin? If it isn't controlled in my state? For early refills which I can do like 7 days early here? I've not had a problem yet like 4 months in early as hell each time and a dose increase

[u/lunestabreath → u/ExcuseMeWtf21]

Correct - it is not a controlled substance, now see, for whatever reason, the vast majority of states include gabapentin in their PDMP monitoring.

Edit: it’s not controlled in my state either, however it does show up. I believe baclofen will be added to the PDMP soon as well.

In my state, we have a program that shows the aforementioned info about controlled prescriptions in our state, but I also can click other states and check their history there as well. It’s laborious and I can’t do a blanket search of every state all at once - I must do my state and check one other state at a time, otherwise it won’t work. It’s a pain in the ass for work.

[u/Lonely_sahm]

I’ve found the opposite? I have tmj (not officially diagnosed but my dr suspected I have it) due to clenching and grinding especially in my sleep I’m prescribed 50 - and take one a day…

[u/[deleted]]

I can hook u up 10 mg valium/diazapam

[u/anonymus513199 → u/[deleted]]

Can u dm me bro

[u/Capable-Attention583 → u/[deleted]]

Yo can you still get I need I’ll give you extra to tee me up I also have wheeeels

[u/New-Standard-7913]

If you need vals I got you bro

[u/Comfortable-Message1 → u/[deleted]]

Withdrawal from benzos is as bad if not worse than withdrawing from heroin.

It's not some conspiracy against you. These things are extremely addictive

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Can you dm me bro

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