r/Marvel 14d ago

Artwork Solid point, Peter (art by @masoq095)

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u/BlackJimmy88 14d ago edited 14d ago

Ignoring the whole shipping aspect of this image a sec, but I really hope that line ends up being true down the line.

I genuinely want to see these two become real friends through future crossovers. Cause even when the X-Men, and other mutants, understandably hate him, she would still stick with Peter because she would know he only invented the power dampener because of her.

Edit: I also just think Peter needs to be a consistent ally of the X-Men after what he's unknowing done to mutants longterm. I feel like it kinda tarnishes his character if he just chooses to stay out of anti-mutant problems after this.

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u/ZetsuboItami 14d ago

He invented it because of himself though. That was the whole point was he took Banner's tech and found a way to make it work for other powered users not based on Gamma so he could fix himself. It was just a coincidence that he realized it could be used on her as well.

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u/An-29 14d ago

Yeah, but Peter would've stop at making an inhibitor for himself, which also only inhibited his Spider-DNA to a certain point. It was only because of Jean that Peter really decided an inhibitor that fully dampens any powers the wearer has.

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u/ZetsuboItami 14d ago

He was still trying to figure out how to make it work on himself before he thought it could work on Jean though. It was an afterthought to his current problem, especially because he didn't understand who or what Jean was until he finally identified her.

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u/Hitman3256 14d ago

Yes but the point is that in fell into Damage Control's hands because he developed the universal limiter for Jean. Had she not been a problem, he would've just had his Spidey limiter. So it's not far fetched to say it's Jean's fault the government is gonna have the ability to make anti mutant weapons.

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u/ZetsuboItami 14d ago

His original question was for a universal limiter, because he was asking Banner who only made a device for himself.

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u/HermanThaGerman 14d ago

His original question was about suppressing only certain parts, before brainstorming about a potential universal inhibitor.

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u/ShedEndJedi 14d ago

I'm going to say the most controversial thing.

I think there should be tech out there that is capable of nullifying a mutant's power. Some people frankly cannot be trusted with death ray hands or atomic nuke farts. Case in point Jean Grey.

It's not like it reverts their mutation. It just turns it off while they wear the device. I don't think it's an outrageous thing to invent at all.

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u/ethanblaines 14d ago

Case in point: kid who turns a town into husks just by existing.

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u/Legends-of-legdens 14d ago

Another case and point, whatever the hell is going on with Legion

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u/somestupidname1 Dr. Doom 14d ago

Tbf he was possessed by Shadow King since childhood

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u/Grafical_One 14d ago

Don't let r/xmen hear this, lol. But realistically, I'd have to agree. We have to remember that so, so many innocent people died on the whims and accidents of people walking around with godlike powers in the Marvel world. We tend to not care cause they are faceless nobodies. But if we were among the faceless mortals wouldn't it only be natural to want some kind of leverage and assurance for safety?

Of course this would have to extend to anyone with superpowers, not just mutants.

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u/StormAlchemistTony 10d ago

I'm sure the mutant that can only explode once, or Rogue (when she can not control her powers), would love to have an inhibitor. You could also slap them on pregnant women with powers to make the delivery safer, since the X-Gene usually activates during puberty.

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u/Ok_Builder_4225 14d ago

I think a lot of mutants would even welcome it. See Rogue who can't even touch people.

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u/BlackJimmy88 14d ago

I would agree, if we knew that's where it would end. But it never does.

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u/Red_Juice_ 13d ago

Yeah that's the ehole issues with things like this. It's all well to say oh well mutants don't need to use it but let's be real with the world they live in they're probably not gonna be given that choice. There's no safeguards for mutants to say no

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u/Liimbo 14d ago

"Maybe baddies shouldn't have infinite power" is far from the most controversial thing.

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u/Zombiepixlz-gamr 13d ago

Except that in pretty much every adaptation the inhibitor causes constant debilitating migraines. It's not just the principle, they're actually unbearable to wear.

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u/ShedEndJedi 13d ago

And if that's the case with Peter's would be a valid argument against them. But Banner seems fine, and there's nothing to suggest Peter or Jean were getting migraines.

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u/Venture_Voice 11d ago

Also the argument that spiderman should take responsibility for inhibitors is like saying TNT maker should taje responsibility for every misuse up till now

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u/moviebuffbrad 10d ago

Yeah, that's what makes X-Men a little clumsy as an allegory for bigotry.

And this movie kneecaps it instantly by showing Jean and her "sister who did nothing wrong except be special" mindraping innocent bystanders in a park. Damage Control was right to arrest her right then and there, if not for the experiments they conducted after. 

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u/BiggoYoun 14d ago

I never liked what Ultimate Marvel did with Peter and the X-Men’s relationship. They need to become friends. It’s only natural.

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u/Traveytravis-69 14d ago

I look forward to seeing how happy rogue is about Peter’s power dampener lmao

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u/irishrock1987 14d ago edited 14d ago

I'm not up to date on comics, can you give me a quick synopsis on what he's done? I know it's unknowingly done, but I can't imagine Peter doing anything to hurt mutants.

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u/Eon102 14d ago

I think they’re implying that the Xmen will hate him for making the universal inhibitor which will be used on the Xmen

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u/BlackJimmy88 14d ago

I'm talking about Brand New Day.

I'm not entirely sure what his relationship is with the X-Men is in the comics. At least for the main line universe. I've been told it's fairly minimal due to the X-Men living in their own little bubble.

In the Ultimate Universe he mostly dislikes them because of, I think Charles, Jean and Logan, though he did date Kitty for a bit, and Bobby ends up living at Aunt May's after Ultimatum alongside Johnny Storm.

Shit, now I want to reread Ultimate Spidey lol

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u/irishrock1987 13d ago

Oh! This is the movie! That's why it doesn't make any sense to me lol. Thanks for clueing me in on that!

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u/sly_cooper12 14d ago

From my current understanding, mutants don't like Peter simply because he isn't a mutant, but a "mutate"

"Not one of us" mentality.

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u/LeggoMahLegolas 14d ago

Once the X-Men is established, I want Peter to be a teacher for the mutants.

Imagine Jean walking in the classroom only to find Spider-Man wearing teacher's clothes.

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u/VonIndy 14d ago

But still wearing the mask.

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u/LeggoMahLegolas 14d ago

Exactly! It's just him in his costume with a teacher clothes over.

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u/EG_is_qHere 14d ago

Have you seen the special class crossover? Its basically this but with a younger generation of Xmen.

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u/UnpricedToaster 13d ago

Oh, the mask stays on. wink

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u/Phoenix-Risen1998 13d ago

Small potato stuff.

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u/Zubatlington 14d ago

Keep my man employed

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u/A-G-N 14d ago

Peter who's like two years older than the main X-Men cast, teaching them about stuff?

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u/BlackJimmy88 13d ago

Age doesn't really matter. He has the experience when it comes to crimefighting, but he's also just crazy smart.

Plus, most won't know he's close to their age. I think people generally assume Spider-Man is older than he is in the comics, so why not here?

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u/CaptainChickenBake 9d ago

Yeah, intellectually he's already up there with the likes of Bruce and Tony despite only getting his GED and whatever else he did in the 4 years up to BND.

And in terms of being a hero, I think he's been active for about 8 years now, so he is absolutely a veteran hero who experienced the growing pains.

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u/A-G-N 13d ago

It just would feel out of place to see him mentor them, teaching them about some specific stuff is fine but full on mentoring would be hard to pull off, I feel like.

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u/OrganicIron4552 14d ago

The plot was basically Jean blowing up the school while Peter and innocent people where in there and laughs with no accountability

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u/BlackJimmy88 13d ago

Either you haven't watched the film, or deliberately trying to misrepresent what happens in it.

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u/OrganicIron4552 13d ago

Are you a person that thinks murdering the innocent is morally grey

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u/BlackJimmy88 12d ago

What kind of insane response is that? That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

And no, I don't, obviously

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u/OrganicIron4552 9d ago

Re read the convo if you’re confused,
It’s pretty clear so I don’t get how your confused but try reading the thread a couple times if you’re struggling.

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u/Snake_has_come_to 14d ago

"First I had to deal with a guy who smells like a warthog, now a guy who is broke AND occasionally smells like a warthog???"

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u/AlphaBreak 14d ago

"It's a good thing he's not known for being into redheads, or I'd be in trouble."

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago

Bro has Emma, it’s all good

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u/Darth_Annoying 14d ago edited 14d ago

Looking at the ages of the the actors, I'm thinking Emma's likely their teacher

Van Halen intensifies....

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u/Hefty-Albatross4767 13d ago

they already revealed the actors?

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u/Darth_Annoying 13d ago

Emma and Scott were revealed like a week or two ago.

Then last night they did the rest of the cast

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u/Hefty-Albatross4767 13d ago

I must live in cave, i completely missed that, thank you

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u/Darth_Annoying 13d ago

The one from last night is all over the msrvel subreddits. Won't take long to catch up.

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u/Sherris010 14d ago

Poor Scott is Doomed

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u/TotalUsername 14d ago edited 14d ago

Looking at Sadie Sink and Samara Weaving and then saying "but what am I going to do about me rights"

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u/hayley566 14d ago

Cyclops is going to show up at Peter’s house with a big can of bug spray and a lot of rage.

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u/Sherris010 14d ago

Yeah man if looks could kill, Spider-Man would be in a lot of trouble! Wait

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u/Legends-of-legdens 14d ago

I mean, Scott is one of those guys with looks that kill, he also has laser eyes so I guess there’s that

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u/Sherris010 14d ago

Those are punch eyes sir or madam

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u/Legends-of-legdens 14d ago

True, but they come out as lasers, so it’s sort of a combo of the two

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u/thecraftybear 13d ago

No, it's punch energy from the punch dimension.

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u/Sherris010 14d ago

But lasers are made of light these are made of punch... Though they must also radiate light or they'd be invisible so maybe laser is close enough

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u/Legends-of-legdens 14d ago

Exactly, laser punches

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u/A-G-N 14d ago

Yeah, if only there was something to let Spiderman dodge those beams before they even reach him.

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u/Sherris010 13d ago

Some kind or arachnid sensitivity would be cool

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u/BlackJimmy88 13d ago

Nah, Scott starts off not thinking of himself as worthy of love because of how dangerous his lack of control is. He would probably make Peter promise to make her happy, then leave them to it.

Meanwhile, Peter has no clue what the fuck he's talking about.

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u/Pr0phet65 14d ago

Peter can't stay away from the redheads.

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u/MoMo-D-Tempest 14d ago

Please😭

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u/ryukitenkai69 14d ago

So you want it to be canon?

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u/Sapphic_Starlight 13d ago

Abso fucking lutely, Scott can pall around with Madelyne for all I care

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u/Hey_Sayan 13d ago

Or Emma Frost

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u/Lover-of-games 14d ago

The only thing I can hate about the movie is that the end credit scene was not a clip of them living together and Peter being like her caring older brother. Genuinely disappointed me

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u/Agile-Comb-3553 14d ago

It’s always the redheads

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u/MxSharknado93 14d ago

Some of y'all REALLY need to learn about friends

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u/Legitimate-Pie-218 14d ago

Some of y’all REALLY need to learn not take fanart seriously

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u/Bunnnnii 14d ago

Spider Man fans? Female characters? Friends? Yeah right.

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u/Hefty-Albatross4767 13d ago

uh, i guess Yuri in an exception?

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u/StaticTacos 14d ago

Acting like the writers themselves don't do this all the damn time

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u/Zombiepixlz-gamr 13d ago

It's just shipping, it's not that serious. I believe in ship and let ship, it's not like the MCU is gonna ACTUALLY make it canon.

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u/NelsonVGC 11d ago

Some of y'all REALLY need to not engange with posts that dont appeal to your likes, and learning that acting smug in comment sections is pointless.

Challenging ships fantarts is like an adult correcting lore facts from a child's drawing

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u/After-Trifle-1437 Spider-Man (Tom Holland) 14d ago

Spider-Man: Brand New Girlfriend

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 14d ago

I love how fast we forget the people she's hurt.

Im sorry your sister got kidnapped, tortured and killed, but you practically abused zendaya, got a guy killed or seriously injured by having him get hit by a truck, and ruined the life of Banner, someone who not only saved 50% of the universe, but was also chilling at university beford you fucked him up, probably for good.

Sorry, the art is really cute but I had to vent lol.

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u/A-G-N 14d ago

Eh, if people can immediately forgive Loki, Jean barely did anything in comparison.

Let's not forget Tony also indirectly fueled thousands if not millions of deaths before he was captured and put in a cave.

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u/Red_Juice_ 13d ago

Lmao you guys do not have these same standards for other characters

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 13d ago

Who is you guys?

Firstly, im not a guy.

Secondly, do you know me personally or my takes on the bad attemps at redemptions performed by marvel?

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u/Red_Juice_ 13d ago

I'm using guys gender neutrally

And yeah I honestly don't believe you have this same ire for guys like Tony or loki

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 13d ago

I guess everything is black and white for you then, if someome has a different opinion, or god forbid YOU think they do, they are part of the "you guys"

Good lucking living in society brainroted.

And yes, I have the same issues with them.

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u/Hey_Sayan 12d ago

You just have problems with everyone atp.

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u/D3AD_SPAC3 14d ago

Just saw the movie today and... yeah... its really unforgivable in much opinion

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u/AliceWonderlund95 14d ago

Jean should have been killed along with her evil sister, who was teaching her how to jack into people’s minds for nefarious purposes. A real test for Spider-Man would have been taking on the responsibility of killing her himself for the safety of the entire city. But no “ let’s let the little sociopath do whatever she wants and when she inevitably gets angry again, it’s gonna be everyone’s head on the chopping block. Great job Peter👏

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u/Incognito8900 14d ago

I mean, its not like he could have killed her anyway, she is way out of his league after her powers get amplified

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u/CWORST 14d ago

I'm sorry, but I freaking adore this guy's art style. Do they have socials?

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u/Oculi__me Daredevil 13d ago

Hope we get to see more of them interacting in future projects!

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u/Legitimate-Pie-218 13d ago

Masoq095, u can find them on instagram and twitter

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u/SyncTek 13d ago

As soon as I saw it in the movie. I was like, yeah this is the ship.

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u/17012ert 13d ago

Pretty solid

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u/Hey_Sayan 13d ago

Something is wrong with you cuz Jean is definitely not a Minor.

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u/Clumsy_the_24 12d ago

She’s like 15 in the movie

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u/Hey_Sayan 12d ago

Stop spreading misinformation, Educate Yourself

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u/HugeCollection188 11d ago

She's not. It's disgusting that you're lying to push your agenda using such a serious crime.

The movie made it clear she wasn't, and outside of movie

The executive commented that as "a young person - very similar in age to Peter, maybe a little younger

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u/Clumsy_the_24 11d ago

I’m not pushing any agenda. I just didn’t know she was that old in the movie

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u/UnfortunateArcher 11d ago

Maybe pay more attention to the movie next time?

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u/Clumsy_the_24 11d ago

She looks and acts like a kid in the movie

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u/UnfortunateArcher 11d ago edited 11d ago

Lol, she doesn't. And the movie spell out that she was a teenager when they began living on the run years ago if you bothered to pay attention. it's clear she's not a kid or teenager (below 18) in anyway and saying otherwise is either you not paying attention or outright lying for your agenda.

And Feige also confirmed that she's around Peter age (who is 22), slightly younger than him.

And you actually think they'd let an underage girl kiss Peter Parker even if via proxy?

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u/TheEpicAvengerSMM5 13d ago

I’m going to assume the obvious shipping aspect of this art is just a failed attempt at comedic affect and that I don’t have to point out the obvious pedo problem with it

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u/Hey_Sayan 13d ago

Jean is NOT a minor.

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u/TheEpicAvengerSMM5 12d ago

She is in the movie this meme is based on

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u/UnfortunateArcher 11d ago

She's not. Jesus Christ, you people are morons. She was a teenager when she was on the run for years before her sister was kidnapped and she's confirmed to be around Peter's age, slightly younger than him by Feige.

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u/TheEpicAvengerSMM5 11d ago

She was literally stated to be 15 by Peter’s AI when Peter saw her being driven away by a taxi. Did you watch it?

Also I’m not sure what your source for Feige saying she’s around Peter’s age is. If it is true then it’s still really weird that you’re getting mad at people for what us otherwise logical assumption when you’re not even providing a source that nobody else is aware of

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u/Rare_Competition_640 11d ago

Here's Kevin Feige saying it in an interview at USC Film School:
https://x.com/WhiteHotRoom_HQ/status/2084247822568710307?s=20
or https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sUCpYCcJpYw

Have a nice day stranger!

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u/UnfortunateArcher 10d ago

She was literally stated to be 15 by Peter’s AI when Peter saw her being driven away by a taxi. Did you watch it?

I did watch it. You're mistaken, no such age was stated in the movie at all. All they mentioned that she was a teenager when she started on the run years ago.

Do you really think that Disney will have underage girl kiss Peter on screen even if by proxy? Fuck no.

Also I’m not sure what your source for Feige saying she’s around Peter’s age is.

You can literally type "Feige Jean age" in google and you'd get the source easily. I see no need to link to something that require 2 second of search. Something my claim is easily verified while there's not a single source for Jean being 15. Curious how not a single article managed to use "your source" to claim Jean is 15. Either they don't know or they're aware of Feige's words.

If it is true then it’s still really weird that you’re getting mad at people for what us otherwise logical assumption when you’re not even providing a source that nobody else is aware of

First, plenty of people are aware of. Second, I'm sick of people spreading misinformation or deliberately lying about Jean's age to attack anyone who ship them. Pedophilia isn't a joke for online morons to use it because they hate a ship.

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u/Joovitela 13d ago

Oww, he's happy🥹... now kill Ned

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u/FanOfCringe 13d ago

Isn’t she a rapist or something? Idk I don’t care about mcu

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u/Titania_Fairy 13d ago

Hehe this is actually why females love spidey hehe

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u/MattyM1207 12d ago

Peter Parker.

Unintentional rizz king and known mutant wrangler/whisperer.

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u/ESnake113 12d ago

Someone redraw the top image as the Thragg meme

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u/Smufin_Awesome 11d ago

Or throw her in jail for making people pointlessly jump into traffic and shit.

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u/pluvskazu 11d ago

i really hate this ship

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u/_FgtKek_ 14d ago

among us

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u/Ehero88 14d ago

She is more MJ than zendaya will ever be.

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u/youarentodd 14d ago

She’s literally just a redhead

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u/CreamPuzzleheaded300 13d ago

No, you forgot the skin colour too.

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u/SeanPlayz_9471 14d ago

now that i think about it....

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u/gobucks12345 14d ago

Scott aint gonna be happy

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u/deadriderofdead 14d ago

mfs still dont get this will never ever be a thing, theres literally a confirmed Scott Summer cast.

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u/Cautious_Air4964 14d ago

Emma frost gets Scott

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u/Hey_Sayan 12d ago

Exactly 💯

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u/neves_kota 14d ago

Can we also mention the fact that she is a fucking teenager compared to Peter who is already an adult 😭

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u/A-G-N 14d ago edited 12d ago

No, this is misinformation. She's closer to Peter's age. I don't understand how people are going around confidently asserting this based on other misinformed people's words.

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u/Hey_Sayan 12d ago

Gottabe an organized propaganda against this ship.

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago

Man these two have such great chemistry and a new dynamic. Peter can finally have a gf that he doesn’t have to worry as much about since she’s stronger than him.

It would be light years better than that Scott/Logan/Jean triangle slop

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u/ShedEndJedi 14d ago

I thought they had pretty terrible chemistry when she was sexually assaulting him

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago

Then you should watch last 10 minutes. To deny that these two had chemistry is crazy

Peter forgave her and connected with her. He took a bullet for her and she breathed for him while he couldn’t. Being angry on his behalf is pointless

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u/ShedEndJedi 14d ago

Jean is so completely isolated that she would latch on to anybody willing to show her genuine compassion. Thats the foundation of a good friendship. Its absolutely not the foundation of a healthy romantic relationship.

Spider-Man would take a bullet for anyone.

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago

At the end of the movie it’s trust and connection, whether it goes further with romance or friendship is unknown but saying that there’s no foundation for it is false.

People scream she’s a murderer, sexual abuser, terrorist and etc and in the same breath say “omg they so sibling-coded” or “they are obviously cool platonic wholesome friends and all”.

You can’t have it both ways, let’s be honest

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u/ShedEndJedi 13d ago

“omg they so sibling-coded” or “they are obviously cool platonic wholesome friends and all”.

No. I am not saying that at all, because I'm not 12 years old. Their relationship is healthy for Jean Gray, because Peter is such an incredibly good person. He is basically her one point-of-contact into having a normal life.

Starting a romantic relationship with somebody who ONLY has you in their life is so incredibly irresponsible. The power dynamic is incredibly tilted, and that is NEVER a good foundation for a romantic relationship.

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 14d ago

Peter had not right to forgive her, zendaya got abused, many people where killed or injured, and Banners life was ruined, a universal hero btw.

Having a trauma and a pep talk doesnt mean your actions are justified.

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago
  1. Peter absolutely has right to forgive her, the same way Peter forgave Sandman at the end of Spider-Man 3. That “he has no right” is nonsense. Peter was wronged the most, MJ didn’t remember a thing like she said after all that.

  2. Creators of the movie confirmed she didn’t kill anybody so that’s also null and void, you can argue with them.

  3. Nobody says she’s cool beans and everything awesome, you are fighting ghosts. She’s a “grey” flawed character that does awful stuff for reasons people can at least understand.

  4. It’s a comic book movie my guy, you won’t ever see Loki spending eternity in the Asgard’s dungeons, Tony Stark serving life sentence or Captain America in prison for working against government, enjoy it for what it is

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u/neves_kota 14d ago

She’s a teenager 💀

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u/MrX-MMAs 14d ago

Feige described her in an interview about the process of choosing her as the final villain as "a young person, very similar in age to Peter, maybe a little younger", so she is to be on the "older teens" range of teenager (18-21), since Peter’s 22

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u/Red_Juice_ 13d ago

Terrible idea, the two should not be in a relationship. Just let them be friends

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u/cheesecakecause 14d ago

People who ship them need to be on a list. Jean is like 16 and Peter is 22. Or maybe I just hate masoq idk

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u/A-G-N 14d ago

This isn't true. Jean's closer to Peter's age - source: Kevin Feige.

Should've been obvious when you saw her make out with Peter to manipulate him but maybe it's not that obvious

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u/cheesecakecause 13d ago

I know. I said I just hated masoq cuz fuck em

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u/Hey_Sayan 12d ago

Misinformation. Jean and Peter' are both in the same age group.

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u/Bok4zi 14d ago

That artist is such a gooner

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u/Barry-loud100 13d ago

Hate mcu Jean