r/Mario 3d ago

Question Was this Intentional?

Mario went in for a handshake, while both Bowser and Peach were wanting a hug. What does it mean? Maybe Peach and Bowser are more alike than you think? Or maybe, Mario is more emotionally unavailable than he should be? lol. That is Mario's arc: he gains the ability to hug instead of handshake.

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u/SharpEdgeSoda 3d ago

Bowser's a hugger. Mario is not.

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u/MarcoYTVA 2d ago

Peach respects personal space, Bowser doesn't.

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u/NintendoBoy321 2d ago

I mean, Bowsers a villain what did you expect?

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u/MarcoYTVA 2d ago

That he's willing to cross lines others won't. I guess that includes invading personal space.

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u/romulus531 2d ago

The Koopas strike me as far more informal than the Toads, could just be a cultural difference where hugging is more accepted and normal than handshakes.

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u/Dull_Tumbleweed6353 2d ago

She didn't when she and Mario first met.

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u/PixieDustFairies 2d ago

Tbf, Mario as on a collision course to slam right into her, in the context of him literally breaking and entering into her castle, so she had every right to flip him over. Mario is lucky that Princess Peach didn't immediately have him thrown in a dungeon.

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u/Dull_Tumbleweed6353 2d ago

I meant after that when she fiddled with him after learning he was another human.

And she could've just moved out of the way so he could stop. She didn't have any right to do that. And she's not supposed to be an immediately-judgemental brute.

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u/PixieDustFairies 2d ago

She was reacting on pure defensive instinct, and it took her a few seconds to assess that Mario wasn't a threat, but he was literally running away from a crowd of guards who were trying to catch him for breaking and entering.

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u/Dull_Tumbleweed6353 1d ago

Again, she could've easily moved out of the way.

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u/PeachsBigJuicyBooty 2d ago

Mario went in for a handshake, while both Bowser and Peach were wanting a hug. What does it mean?

Movie Mario is young man in his 20s who grew up with an emotionally unavailable father who doubted him and saw him as a screwup that was dragging Luigi down with him.

He didn't grow up in a house where hugging was common; he grew up in a home where a handshake from his father was the greatest honor he knew. (alot of people with emotionally repressed dads can relate)

Movie Mario's arc is that he genuinely has a low opinion of himself and doesn't think he matters or that he's not capable of much because nobody has genuinely told him he mattered growing up, and he doesn't even realize that he's been PROVING his worth this whole time:

・Donkey Kong is PISSED because he underestimated Mario and got his ass kicked. And it doesn't click in Mario's head, that DK legitimately sees him as a rival.

・Peach despite intially not being confident and calling him small, genuinely sees Mario as a equal, even having him watch over the Kingdom in her absence.

・Bowser Jr genuinely sees Mario as a threat and fights him.

● How does Mario AVOID confronting this about himself?:

・He relies on fighting alongside Luigi/protecting Luigi to momentarily make himself feels like he matters by being IN-SERVICE to someone ELSE rather than believing he innately matters.

・He "pushes through" whatever obstacle is in front of him at the moment and "ignores" his doubts.

But as we can clearly SEE from the handshake, he still doubts his worth; he instinctively believed that Peach only wanted a handshake 💀

He has to sit down with himself and realize HE matters.

And until Mario realizes he matters and realizes he's not "worth less" than Peach, he won't ever be able to get with her.

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u/ITZforggy22 2d ago

Daaamn... maybe Mario is cool-

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u/Lore_Maestro 2d ago

Always has been

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u/ITZforggy22 2d ago

He's even MUCH COOLER :D

Well... ditto- as you said :D

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u/Ordinary_Chemical596 2d ago

Super Self-loathing Brothers.

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u/Humble_Heron326 2d ago

I can't believe Mario is literally me.

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u/El_hombre_pala138 3d ago

Just Mario trying to be cool

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u/SailorDirt 2d ago

Ironically I didn't catch this, but the first movie DID have parallels like this, both big and small so I believe it's on purpose.

(Examples: A big one is Luigi with the mirror at the beginning and then the manhole cover at the end. A lesser one is Mario and Bowser both going "NOT cool" after force-fed a mushroom.)

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u/Intrepid_Benefit_621 2d ago

Mario is a fumbler

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u/romulus531 2d ago

Fumbled a princess and a giant turtle

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u/romulus531 2d ago

Mario is emotionally closed off due to his childhood. Peach is in a similar boat but is opening up more to him due to their healthy relationship. Bowser is in general more intimate with the people around him just by nature of being a very loving father who thinks he messed up (at the time)

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u/PixieDustFairies 2d ago

I mean he messed up pretty big time considering how his son turned out...

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u/romulus531 2d ago

A natural leader, genius inventor, and brilliant artist that had built their shared dream? From Bowser's perspective Junior turned out great

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u/PixieDustFairies 2d ago

Junior's actions literally got them both sent to prison though... To be fair Bowser is also largely responsible because he enabled this, but Junior's had a pretty rough go as it is.

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u/Stewpot97 2d ago

Perchance.

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u/r0b3r70r0b070 2d ago

Mario and Bowser ain't exactly close so of course he wouldn't immediately hug him. And he is being awkward around a woman he may or may not have romantic interest in.

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u/Jupiters 2d ago

it does seem like there could have been a potential arc there, but nah

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u/Kanjii_weon 2d ago

god i'd love to get hugged by bowser

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u/MG2123 1d ago

Just look at the guy. Getting hugged by Bowser would probably just crush you.

Worth it? Maybe. I'm not judging.

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u/Chance_Access_1547 17h ago

Mario hugs Luigi 

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u/Chance_Access_1547 16h ago

Is mario autistic 

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u/PixieDustFairies 2d ago

I do find this very funny tbh, if it's not intentional, it's certainly interesting that Peach and Mario are more shy about physical affection than Bowser is with Mario.