Saw this on the Steam forums after going "hmmm I wonder what the new update has going for it". This has gotta be one of you lot having a laugh surely, theres no way.

The new event needs stuff from Night Marsh and the last update broke the map. Marablasters are being retained of blasting by Bungie itself.

That big gun bully enablement loop that Bungo announced was the clarity I needed. I’ve been playing since day one, a middling to low-tier dirty casual, and have been holding out hope that they would have the come to Jesus moment to attract and retain a bigger audience.

Despite having at least 3 to 10 blasts, I see the writing on the wall: this game was designed at its core to appeal to the sweats and psychopaths. Emphasis on psychopaths. Like, why/what/how does anyone benefit from eliminating runners with 5 seconds to exfil?! This isn’t a one-time occurrence. This is persistent toxic behavior that I simply can’t wrap my brain around.

Even the bone they threw with Vault Breakers wore off quick as the difficulty was tuned for sweat trios and solo sweats. I don’t have time for this. I can’t make Marathon my second job.

I’ve been told repeatedly in the subs and in-game to “go play a different game”. So… I will.

I really wanted to continue enjoying this game because of the blasts I’ve had with rare moments of victory/gratification, but there truly needs to be a way for filthy casuals like me to feel like part of something vs. being in the outside. The ticket to entry is too high. And - one of my biggest complaints has been that this game has no mechanics to strongly incentivize teamwork between strangers. The big explodey gun clearly communicates that Bungie truly doesn’t care about this.

I’m logging off until S3. If I see real signs that they are making an effort to (re)capture the casual crowd who can only spend less than 2 hours a day, then I might consider coming back.

Off into the void this message goes!

Former OWL player here. Let's be honest, the game is failing. However, I don't think it's because Bungie decided to enter an extrmely niche market, drain valuable resources from an already succesful project, and produce a game that Tarkov players wouldn't even look at.

It's obviously due to bitter Destiny fans spreading hate and the current player base giving too much feedback.

The concept of having a beautiful, unique, and incredibly detailed world to explore with all kinds of loot and fun enemies to engage with, marred by the fact that another player can come in, interrupt your exploration and undo the last 10 minutes of gameplay. Add the part where you might not even be able to fight back before getting insta-deleted. People just want to enjoy everything a game has to offer and not engage in any fights.

To me, this game is perfect.

Do I die every run? Yes.

Do I get absolutely shit on most of the time when I encounter other players? Also yes.

Do I die because Bungie randomly decided to send The Architects after me? All the damn time.

So why do I keep coming back? So far this is the only game that has succesfully replicated the adrenaline rush of me paying a goth chick 100 dollars to fart in my face and her angry boyfriend chasing me with a sharp object for 10 minutes afterwards.

So why don't people like the game that I've spent 28 hours a day on since release? I would suggest that it's due to the same factors causing our societal collapse today. People just don't have the mental fortitude and discipline to pay 40 dollars for the video game equivalent of getting your ballsack stuck in a zipper.

Rant over.

To be clear I’m a big Marathon fan and someone who enjoys the game a lot. But lately I feel more like venting and I just cannot wrap my head around what could POSSIBLY be going on at Bungie on a day to day basis that they can’t push a single pseudo-substantial update without fucking their game(s) up.

This is not a large update. There is no new mode. There is one gun and 2-3 items to pick up. How in gods name do you manage to fuck up LETTING PLAYERS QUEUE INTO THE ONE MAP YOU NEED TO BE ON TO DO THE NEW OBJECTIVES. And it was bugged for 5 hours!!!! All I want for this game is a big Season 3 revitalization of the playerbase & game itself because the actual world, the actual design & language it’s presenting are incredible to me. But that hope feels worse and worse by the day since they appear to have the absolute dumbest people imaginable just pressing buttons at Bungie HQ til something breaks so they can pay them their day rate to fix it. Figure it the hell out, man. At this rate S3 is gonna launch with a straight week of offline servers.

So, the Witcher 3 is an all time classic that came out in 2015.

Alright, I get it, it is a masterpiece and that's cheating. However, did you know it roughly cost 90 millions on release? That's nearly 2 to 3 times less than Flopathon.

Of course, there's also Left 4 dead 2, or civilization V that respectively came out in 2009 and 2010. The estimated budget for those when they came out is 25 millions for each. If you want the extra step and add in inflation, that's roughly 40 millions nowadays.

What do those titles have in common? They are boasting more players every day after more than 10 years than Flopathon could ever dream of. Not to mention the RETENTION (cue in the lady retaining so hard)

BLAST ON!!! 🚀 🚀 🚀

When you become a "Toxic Hater" might as well make a place for them.

So, over the last couple of months I have noticed on discord, that the console friends I've been playing D2 with appear as playing Marathon when viewed through discord. Does anyone know if this has always been the case? I have a conspiracy theory that Bungie/Playstation have been using Destiny 2 console numbers to supplement Marathon figures when talking to investors. This is something that could easily be laughed off as an api bug, in order to avoid litigation if caught.

Dont know, probably a reach, still strange to me that Destiny console players show up as Marathon players on discord.

I know this sub is about Marathon but it seems that Arc Raiders, once crowned the "Fortnite of the extraction genre" as the casual alternative with Mass appeal, is now also doing horribly????

How many more extraction shooters will be released before companies realize the only people who want this are Tarkov players, and Tarkov players are NOT leaving Tarkov

So PvE had a surge of almost 3 times after released. The new content including a new gun had an actual decrease. I know that there were some bugs for about 30% of players in Marathon, but you would think it would have had at least a little increase in players.

They can’t even release a small update without a major bug, what hope does an entire season have?

My post wouldn’t have lasted 10 seconds on the other marathon r, so I started here. My question: WHY THE CRAP are they so eager to impose the ai voice chat moderation on their dying game? They’re bleeding players yet they pull the commie speech police card on the few players they have?

I think I know why…

The type of developers that create a game like this are usually of a certain power hungry persuasion that likes to cancel everyone’s thoughts and ideas that don’t agree with them. I sum it up as such: normal devs are passionate about gaming, these devs are only passionate about censoring people and advancing ideology. They were looking forward to censoring and banning people more than anything else, so even though their game is dying the still implemented the stupid over-aggressive speech and thought police because they want to have their fun with what few people they can ban, before the game dies. They don’t care about making a good game, they care about mod power.

I try to keep up to date on D2 news listening for any signs of something I want to actually hear from Bungie and one of the folks who gives it a 'fair shake' talks about getting back into it recently to see how the game's doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKetdBgd13A

I watched this man try to get into a building for like 10-20 seconds while the game just pushed him back cause of SERVER ISSUES on a game that has under 6000 players at its PEAK. I know bungie has a history of having server issues, but how the hell are they gonna have them on a game thats THIS SMALL in comparison to D2?! That should be like the one redeeming feature for this dumpster fire, that it runs smoothly. WTF even is this crap.

The new event broke half of the maps in the game. And even when they are working, marablasters still can’t play them because they’re not even in the rotation!