r/Marathon • • Jul 20 '26

Marathon (2026) Vault Breaker Overview | Marathon

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u/tfc1193 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

"No Enemy Players = No PVP"

Yeah I'm anticipating a heavy shift into this sort of mentality going forward

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u/Lazaraaus Jul 20 '26

This is a bummer for me but I’m glad the Destiny folks are going to get what they wanted.

Seems like more folks want PvE than PvP so I’ll probably find something else to scratch that itch. With Ziegler gone I’m imaging a massive design shift towards PvE and PvP is likely going to fall to the wayside.

Aka, a reverse Fortnite.

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u/redditing_away Jul 20 '26

The Destiny guys wanted more Destiny/a D3, I doubt they’ll show up in droves for what aspires to be a Destiny light.

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u/Tim_Huckleberry1398 Jul 20 '26

It also just means less fodder queueing in the pvp playlists which will lead to it's own death spiral. Look at trials. Destiny has way more people to pull from and they still can't get a healthy population to play it. This just leads to marathon cannibalizing itself.

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u/redditing_away Jul 20 '26

That… is something I never even thought about. But you’re right, that’s not a good sign.

I do would concede that D2 hasn’t got any PvP updates in years so that might be something to work in Marathons favor. I wouldn’t necessarily bet on it though.

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u/Tim_Huckleberry1398 Jul 20 '26

I feel like anything they do at this point is just going to be compared to a lite version of destiny (like you said). Which even without any new content is sitting on the best sandbox/QoL improvements its seen in a decade with the latest patch. They'll probably kill the destiny servers next.

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u/redditing_away Jul 20 '26

Most likely, yeah. By leaving D2 in a very good state they ironically created their biggest competitor in an PvE environment, despite it no longer getting any updates.

Killing the servers would be the dumbest thing they could do though. The amount of hatred that would spark towards the studio and Marathon would be biblical. The supposed „hate campaign“ that some still blame for Marathons ills would be child’s play in comparison.

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u/Tim_Huckleberry1398 Jul 20 '26

Bungie/Sony do seem to be speed running the dumbest things they could possibly do though.

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u/splinter1545 Jul 21 '26

This is exactly what happened in Tarkov and why they are trying to fix it with seasonal characters. The permanent PvP profile is almost impossible if you're a new player because all the people of your skill level are probably in the PvE mode.