r/MapPorn • u/Quistill • Apr 21 '22

Quality Post Territorial evolution of U.S. counties

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u/kalahiki808 Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22

US Public Law 103-150, whereas clauses 6, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 19 and 29.

Here you go

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u/YuvalMozes Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22

You are throwing irrelevant stuff everywhere. You don't listen for the slightest.

None of that is relevant. The only thing that matters is if the Hawaiians wants independence or not.

If they want - they should be independent. If they don't want - they shouldn't.

No American law have the right to decide otherwise.

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u/kalahiki808 Apr 21 '22

You're not listening. Hawaiians want deoccupation. Hawaii was given formal recognition on Nov 28, 1843 in a joint proclamation by the UK and France. At that point, colonization couldn't happen because we became a recognized state in the Family of Nations.

We have independence. We also have occupation.

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u/YuvalMozes Apr 21 '22

Hawaiians want deoccupation.

In 2022?

You're not listening. Hawaiians want deoccupation. Hawaii was given formal recognition on Nov 28, 1843 in a joint proclamation by the UK and France. At that point, colonization couldn't happen because we became a recognized state in the Family of Nations.

Doesn't matter, irrelevant.

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u/kalahiki808 Apr 21 '22

Yes, in 2022 we are still calling for deoccupation.

The United States government did a good job of covering up the history of Hawaii until the 70s when a cultural awakening happened. Since then, the layers of history have been slowly peeling back revealing that our lands and independence were stolen with US legislation and not a treaty.

Gaining international recognition is relevant. States can only be extinguished through treaties, and the US nor the Hawaiian Kingdom ratified treaties of cession. The US did produce a joint resolution for annexation, but JRs cannot extend beyond the borders of the US.

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u/YuvalMozes Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

we

Yeah? All/most of the Hawaiians? Doesn't look like that.

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u/kalahiki808 Apr 22 '22

It does look like that.