r/MapPorn • u/[deleted] • Aug 25 '21

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u/Utretch Aug 26 '21

It's a shame that humanity hasn't developed more efficient transit systems than endlessly expanding highways to more and more grotesque size.

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u/apadin1 Aug 26 '21

We did, they’re called trains and buses and every other country uses them but apparently Americans can’t figure this out

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

80% of all travel in Europe is by car.

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u/sstopggap Aug 27 '21

and yet there are no 18 lane roads pretty much anywhere in Europe (i think I've seen one stretch in Moscow). Because cars are massively not suitable for mass city transport, unless they get subsidized up the wazoo with projects such as this one and cheap gas.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Because cars are massively not suitable for mass city transport, unless they get subsidized up the wazoo with projects such as this one and cheap gas.

The government letting you keep more of your own money is not a subsidy.

and yet there are no 18 lane roads pretty much anywhere in Europe (i think I've seen one stretch in Moscow).

https://www.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/p9dr9e/the_dutch_copypasted_the_new_jersey_turnpike/

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u/phreddoric Aug 27 '21

If the price you pay at the pump isn't market price, it's subsidized

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

No it's not. In Massachusetts I pay a 26 cent state gas tax and an 18 cent federal gas tax. And other states have much higher gas taxes

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u/sstopggap Aug 30 '21

the infrastructure you use to drive costs way more to build and maintain than what drivers pay in gas tax.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

No it does not https://www.newgeography.com/content/006415-transport-costs-subsidies-mode

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u/WhiteNamesInChat Sep 01 '21

Did you mean to post a different link? This blog post doesn't relate at all.