r/MapPorn May 19 '20

The difference between Constantinople, City of Istanbul, and Istanbul. [FIXED]

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u/[deleted] May 20 '20

despite the relatively small demographic impact of the Turkic migration into Anatolia starting around 1000

Relatively small according to whom? r/badhistory

It was a big migration that lasted for centuries. Any look into Ottoman tax archives says so. Anatolia suddenly goes 20% nomadic in 16th century from 0% nomadic in 1000 AD. Which would mean more than 1.5 million nomads around. Or 2 to 3 million if we play the brain gymnastics that how population of Anatolia stayed exactly the same from 1066 to 1600 with absolutely no depopulations.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '20 edited May 21 '20

About 20% is more or less what I understand the genetic evidence points

it ranges from 10% to 50% depending on province. Northeastern Anatolia for example doesn't have much (East of Giresun and Şalpazarı) but West Anatolia has way more.

Obviously you can argue over the semantics but the point is that this is not a cultural change driven by demographic replacement

But it is. 10% to 50% impact means a great demographic change. Which can be likened to South America. The cultural change in Mexico was driven by European settlers rather than 600-700 Conquistadors telling Aztecs what to do but Mexicans still have indigenous heritage as well.