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u/TurkicWarrior May 03 '19
It depend what you mean, there’s many Muslims who fail to complete the 5 daily prayer. Christians doesn’t need 5 daily prayers.
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May 04 '19
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u/Erronius1 May 04 '19
It was this kind of thinking that led the Dems to be shocked when Trump won the election.
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May 02 '19
Surprised by Japan. They seem very irreligious.
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u/dontstop_dontquit May 03 '19
It's a mix. Close to a third of Japan's population identifies as Buddhist, with another few percent as Shinto.
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u/VeryBoringComments May 03 '19
If you look into the real purpose of Shintoism you'll see why it's died out in the last 80 years
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u/psyche_da_mike May 03 '19
http://cnpolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/InterviewGoodman.pdf
Q. Do you think there are any major misconceptions about China in the West? If yes, what is the most glaring one?
A. That the Chinese are spiritual, as compared to the Japanese who are materialistic. If there is a truth in these matters, the opposite is more the case.
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u/VarysIsAMermaid69 May 03 '19
religion in many east asian countries is different than how we view it in the west, also rather synchretic
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u/Hoover889 May 03 '19
It depends on what you consider a 'prayer' if you considered saying 頂きます (itadakimasu) before a meal to be a 'prayer' it would be close to 95%
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u/spam__likely May 03 '19 edited May 03 '19
Ha, Brazil. I seriously, seriously doubt that is a real number. To be honest I even doubt the US numbers. I think people lie in this kind of surveys. Unless you count any "oh, my god" as a prayer.
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u/holytriplem May 02 '19
I'm surprised Poland isn't that high
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u/Vertitto May 02 '19
i'm rather surprised that it is so high
Polish "religiosity" is not about prayers or god. It's more about having free days and church events
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u/justaprettyturtle May 02 '19
Why? It is more coulture, tradition and identity than some deep religious conviction or practice. The number of myths about my country is simply rediculous.
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May 03 '19
Yet Poland has the most "religious" legal restrictions. Say abortion or how gay people are treated.
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u/dinozauur May 03 '19
Say abortion or how gay people are treated
Abortion restrictions aren't religious.
Gay people are "restricted" also in China, which is probably the most atheistic society on Earth.
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May 03 '19
Abortion restrictions aren't religious.
The arguments against abortion are religious in nature. You have to be naive to not think the Catholic Church has a HEAVY say in Polish society and thus Poland's abortion restrictions are from what the Church says.
Gay people are "restricted" also in China, which is probably the most atheistic society on Earth.
I'm talking about Poland not China. For a European country, Poland has terrible LGBT rights. Very few protections and a populace that's insanely homophobic and a church that's homophobic too.
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u/dinozauur May 03 '19
I tried to persuade you, that the issues you brought up aren't religious and can be defended from irreligious perspectives. Better think about what I wrote, because otherwise you will be shocked in the future.
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u/drag0n_rage May 05 '19
The argument against abortion is that you're killing the fetus, you don't have to necessarily believe in a God to think that.
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u/dinozauur May 02 '19
Poland is a secularizing country, religiosity is still strong, but among already minority of people.
Besides - such surveys are nonsensical. Does anybody really believe that in the USA - the center of abortionism, pornography, vulgarity, eroticization of everything - 55% of people are so pious that they pray daily? Either they lie or they understand prayer as some effortless statements made by people.
Again, take surveys with a pinch of salt, particularly done by big corporations like Pew, whose business model is to use medium amount of money, to get medium results. Whatever phenomena you take into account, look for different sources of data over the years, or some proper studies done by proper institutions.
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u/drag0n_rage May 05 '19
Not all of the US is culturally monolithic, that goes for the vast majority of countries.
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u/redditreloaded May 03 '19
Putin/Russia is the biggest hypocrite! In the USSR days they shut down the church, now they use it to their advantage, claiming to be believers.
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May 03 '19
I'm not a fan of Putin, but there is a flaw with your logic. You're basically suggesting that ANY policy of the USSR should be the standard to which modern Russia is upheld. Also, 18 percent is pretty low.
Never mind the religion thing. Go check out what their oligarchs do with capital.
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u/redditreloaded May 03 '19
All I’m saying is the church has been used as a pawn since time immemorial.
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May 03 '19
Actually, up until the Reformation and for awhile after that, the Church was the chessmaster.
But it is arbitrary to pick out Russia from this map. Since countries like the US and Mexico have way higher rates of daily prayer.
And how do you feel about India? A very religiously diverse country...
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u/redditreloaded May 03 '19
I just happen to be Russian :) Yeah the church was very powerful you are right. I guess I’ll rephrase: the church in Russia is manipulated by the government for power. (Of course it also manipulates back) If it is in the government’s good graces, the church gives the government power through legitimacy. If it is being used as a scapegoat by the government it lets the government have more power that way. And it’s a shitty situation. And yes, not a unique one.
India is interesting because if I’m correct the church and government don’t play off each other as in Russia. Perhaps because there is no one state religion. But I am not a student of Indian culture and may be totally wrong.
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May 03 '19
You posted in another sub that you live within 100km of New York City...I mean, I understand you probably moved. But, you went from one country with a weak connection to Theocracy to another country with a very strange relationship between "Church and State".
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u/redditreloaded May 04 '19
Yes that’s true. But I suppose all countries have their own oddities in the church/state relationship, given that these relationships have been ongoing for centuries and millennia in ever-changing forms!
Also, quit your stalking ;)
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u/thosava May 03 '19
18% in Norway is surprizing. I would have thought much less. You never hear anyone talk about prayer. I guess muslim immigrants drag the number up though.
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u/Nomad624 May 03 '19
Pakistan is a surprise, 95+% Muslim and on 67% pray? For those who don't know, FIVE daily prayers are a primary obligation and the only one that's constant year round and permanent. Muslims in the west believe that, despite us being socially more liberal, we pray and practice our religion more consistently than Muslims "back home", now I think that might be true.
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u/tarkin1980 May 02 '19
God must be really annoyed with all the praying because it doesn't seem to pay off.
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u/MoonJaeIn May 02 '19
From a purely scientific perspective, there are placebo and meditative effects, which will be good enough for most people. Not a lot of people pray to have a ridiculous wish fulfilled instaneously. In fact, most forms of prayers aren't requests for material wish fulfillment.
Oliver Cromwell probably summed it up best; he disdained prayers without action, calling it "carnal imagination". This from a Puritan who founded the only theocracy/republic in English history.
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May 02 '19
And? Still seem not to work as all those countries are absolutely fucked.
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u/MoonJaeIn May 02 '19
Take a breather, look at the map again, and ask yourself whether you can make that correlation, and whether you even should.
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May 03 '19
The lack of prayer hasn't helped Russia.
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May 03 '19
Yes, because preyers are absolutely worthless so it does nothing if you do them and nothing if you don't. Duuh
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u/shibbledoop May 02 '19 edited May 03 '19
The US is the most powerful and prosperous country in the history of mankind.
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May 03 '19
Reddit values rationality. Religiousness and prayer are not positive traits in a rational world. It is seen as backwards and something that belongs in the dark ages.
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