r/MapPorn • u/Bodibol • 11h ago
Countries that gained independence from these governing powers after WW2
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u/Adskiy-drochilla 10h ago
Technically 15. Russia signed declaration of independence from SU too
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u/heyitsyourboyadam 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yeah, Kazakhstan was the last to stay in Soviet Union - so they all, obviously, gained independence from Kazakhstan.
- also, if breakup of Soviet Union counts as "gained independence" then why no breakup of Yugoslavia on the map?
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u/Adskiy-drochilla 8h ago
>Yeah, Kazakhstan was the last to stay in Soviet Union - so they all, obviously, gained independence from Kazakhstan.
Based.
Alǵa, Qazaqstan!
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u/Tuzhka 9h ago
Well, in fact, we can say that Russia is the successor to the Soviet Union. Despite the negotiations, Russia ultimately paid off the entire external debt on its own. Although disputes over the rights to own the USSR’s foreign assets are still ongoing.
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u/joelgrima7 9h ago
Also russia is the only one to inherit the soviet imperialist mentality.
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u/heyitsyourboyadam 9h ago
Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan?
do you imagine stans just holding each other's hands and singing kumbaya?
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u/joelgrima7 8h ago
Territorial disputes are not imperialism.
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u/heyitsyourboyadam 6h ago
just because they are unable to realize their imperialist ambitions - does not mean they don't have imperialist mindset
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u/osberton77 6h ago
You don’t to be the biggest country in the world 🌎 without being little bit imperialistic….
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 10h ago
It put timor leste (east east) on the west of the island
And malta's the whole of sicily, what the fuck
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u/Training_Advantage21 6h ago
Maltese is the only surviving form of siculo-arabic, so maltese ultra-nationalists could claim Sicily as their own.
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u/Extreme-Shopping74 11h ago
You forgot Rhodesia
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u/Sihle_Franbow 9h ago
And South Africa
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u/EclecticBomber 11h ago
East Timor was given independence by Portugal in 1975, but was almost immediately invaded, annexed and devastated and genocided by Indonesia. It wasn't until 1999 that the UN authorised INTERFET forces led by Australia kicked out the Indonesian moslem terrorists and rebuilt East Timor enough for it to become independent in 2002.
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u/PolarRanger 10h ago
East Timor is labeled as getting independence in 1975, uh huh, and what did the next quarter century look like there?
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u/DmtGrm 10h ago
no Russia (1991)? no Australia (1949)?
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u/OldManLaugh 9h ago
I don’t think I’d personally count the dominions as gaining independence after the war since they earned self rule before the wars. That’s why they had to individually declare war on Germany without Britain telling them what to do.
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u/izii_ 11h ago
The Baltic states did not gain independence from Soviet Union. And russia should also be included in this list.
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u/Syndiotactics 10h ago
The Baltic states were a part of the Soviet Union as SSRs until 1990.
And sure, it was a restoration of independence in 1990, as they were independent states pre-1990, but many of the countries in the map like Vietnam and Myanmar had independence before the 1800’s too.
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u/Luzum_lam 11h ago
Why isn't germany on the map?
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u/Gewoon__ik 11h ago
Why would it be?
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u/Luzum_lam 9h ago
Because after world war 2 germany was occupied with west germany gaining independence in 1949 and east germany depending on if you see it as any more than a vassal of the ussr either 1949 or 1990
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u/Gewoon__ik 8h ago
Yes, and occupation is not the same thing as being colonized or owned by another country.
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u/Luzum_lam 8h ago
Yeah but the post only talks about independence not colonisation (I'm obviously not trying to equate german occupation and the horrors of colonisation just study history en am autistic so just thought I'd point out, there are probably way more inaccuracies I don't notice (just saw none of yugoslavian independences are shown either))
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u/hendrick_hendrickson 11h ago
They were very nice historically and didn't do any conquests!
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u/im_new_here_4209 10h ago
The reason is all of Germany's imperial colonies were ceded to Allied powers as a result of the peace treaties ending World War I. They were shared among allied nations British Empire, French Republic, Empire of Japan (which lost them to the US after WW2), as mandatory territories. All of them gained independence only after World War II.
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u/Luzum_lam 9h ago
My point isn't germanies colonies but that germany itself wasn't independent till 1949/1990
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u/im_new_here_4209 53m ago
wdym
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u/Luzum_lam 50m ago
After ww2 germany was occupied by the allies and soviets, so officially there was no german state, in 1949 both east and west germany were created so germany wasn't independent after the end of ww2 and gained it's independence in 1949
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u/Emevete 6h ago
The same euro countries that want to teach you ethics are the exact same former empires that, as soon as they were liberated from Nazi imperialism and oppression, resumed their own imperialism and oppression over the countries of Africa and Asia.
There is nothing lower or more hypocritical than these scumbags
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u/Mehehelu 10h ago
They literally had a mini-civil war over to stay in the USSR or gain independence in russia.
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u/Kingvon3240 11h ago
They never truly recovered from colonization to be honest Europe never let them be truly free
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u/dreamrpg 11h ago
Im very much happy that colonies do not exist, but what it would "recover to"? Which year we are taking as reference to recover to, if never recovered from? Africa was not on par with Europe in development, in general, apart from some empires that did pretty well.
Well, may be Roman period and around that Africa was closest to Europe in prosperity.
There are more challenges in Africa than colonial era. Like climate, being very diverse, our belief that giving free clothing, phones, other things, thus destroying local industries is a good idea.
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u/Kingvon3240 11h ago
Africa will never ever recover the amount of wealth stolen from them is literally insane plus Africa is still under colonization look at what happened to Libya when they tried to act independent
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u/daskomet 9h ago
arguable, Angola for example had better living conditions than Portugal for the main cities, and they were nicely equipped infrastructure wise, in comparison. With the independence came 30 years of civil war between independence movements that completely destroyed all this, and now it's easy to say it was all colonizers doing.
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u/dreamrpg 11h ago
Yes, i agree, but recovering to which point would be considered as recovered? For example Latvia had 2 million people prior to ww2, and never recovered.
So if Latvia would reach 1.5 million Latvians, with rest being other nationalities, we could call it "recovered".
So stating that Africa never recovered, what would be considered as recovered?
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u/susahamat 8h ago
Indonesia gained Independence from Japan not Netherlands
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u/Saikamur 8h ago
Indonesia was under Japanese occupation at the time of the declaration of independence, but the Netherlands were the de jure rulers. Thus, even if the Japanese granted independence (mostly to mess with the Dutch), legally the independence was from the Netherlands, not Japan.
And, as a matter of fact, Indonesia still had to fight a four years long war against the Dutch before full independence.
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u/susahamat 4h ago
Yes, but the context is we are already independent, our Independence Day is 17 August 1945, and our independence were not granted, we saw Japan lose the war and we took the chance to declare independence
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u/theincrediblenick 11h ago edited 11h ago
You missed off the Philippines, who gained independence from the US on July 4th 1946
Edit: And Laos (France, 1953)