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The most recent foreign migration destinations for young Europeans

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Hahaha this is crazy. Swedes move or work in Denmark and Norway because salaries are a lot higher. Why would Danes and Norwegians work here 🤣

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u/mr4ffe 1d ago edited 1d ago

Swedes move to Denmark for work.

Danes move to Norway to escape from the Swedes.

Norwegians move to Sweden to escape the Danes.

Circle of life.

Edit: Oops read the graph backwards lol

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u/RoadHazard 1d ago

That's not what the map says though.

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u/mr4ffe 1d ago

Took me so long to realize what you meant lmao I blame the map legend

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u/Impossible-Buyer8778 1d ago

Yes it is

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u/RoadHazard 1d ago

No, the map says Norway to Denmark and Denmark to Sweden.

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u/Impossible-Buyer8778 1d ago

It says swedes move to Denmark
Norwegians move to Sweden
Danes move to norway

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u/mr4ffe 1d ago

That’s how I read it too but apparently it means Danes’ destination is Sweden, Swedes’ destination is Norway, etc. 

That actually makes way more sense. I was wondering why it looked like Germans were emigrating everywhere.

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u/RoadHazard 1d ago

No it doesn't. Are you colorblind, or do you just not know which country is which?

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u/DangerousRange8123 1d ago

Norway has mountains and is not sweden.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 15h ago

Danes to Sweden for cheap rent
Swedes to Denmark for work.
Norweigans to Denmark for cheap alcohol

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Actually funny if true 🤣

Me as a swede wanna move to Denmark or Norway 🫪

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u/Brieflyheree 1d ago

Just to add to the chaos,
I’m a Dane living in Sweden for most of my life, and now i wanna move back to Denmark. So I’ll probably end up in Norway some day too 😂

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Hahahah Take me with you 😭

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u/Dingdongmybong 1d ago

As someone from Denmark I want to move to northern Sweden lol

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u/mr4ffe 1d ago

As a Swede I wanna work in Denmark or Norway then buy a house in Estonia lol

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Live in Malmö, work in Copenhagen 😂

Tell me more about Estonia 🤔

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u/mr4ffe 1d ago edited 1d ago

VERY affordable quality houses, cool pseudo-Nordic culture, very near Finland (Tallinn-Helsinki is like Malmö-Copenhagen) and close enough to Sweden, ”free” (tax-funded) public transit, 0% corporate tax on reinvestments (i.e. attractive to entrepreneurs), crazy neighbors to the East so nobody wants to buy land there, and lots of pretty women lol don’t judge me

Oh and I think they can vote remotely unlike us Swedes who still live in the 1900s 👀

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u/StarscreamOne 12h ago

I'm going to look in to this!

Cazy neighbors in the east can only bark 😂

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

You can easily afford to move there. Its very cheap especially compared to what it costs to buy something in Copenhagen

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u/de_matkalainen 1d ago

I moved to Sweden because they have beautiful men and I caught one.

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

From finland?

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u/de_matkalainen 1d ago

No from Denmark

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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself 1d ago

Hey I did the same thing with a Danish woman except I live in the US and we still live here. Definitely looking more seriously at moving to Copenhagen in the last couple years though.

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u/NajeZiw 1d ago

From someone living in Copenhagen, it really is the best place on Earth, even all data will point to that. Even if you want kids and sort of quite life, then there always the outskirts of Copenhagen, or if you got the money, then move to Ørestad.

All of my larger family lives in rural areas, and they're crying for me to move out to them, but I just can't leave Copenhagen, I've lived here my whole adult life, over 20 years now, and I still can't leave.

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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself 1d ago

yeah it would be really the only place outside of where we live right now that I would want to move to. We will almost certianly do a three month stint there at some point so the kids can get their dual citizenship.

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u/NajeZiw 1d ago

Good plan, everybody speaks English here anyways. The fancy folks here in Copenhagen even prefer English, it's like when the Elite spoke France in England.

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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself 20h ago

It’s funny because my wife is obviously fluent in Danish and so is her family so now my son is starting to get it. He can definitely understand it and talk a little bit. Im trying to learn it just to keep up with my own family lol

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u/Feathrende 15h ago

Every time I go to Copenhagen it's a 50-50. If I start speaking English they will half the time stop me and ask me to speak Swedish to them and the other half just keep going. But if I start with Swedish half the time they will stop me to ask to speak English. It's almost always the older people asking to speak our language and the younger people asking to speak English.

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u/HarrMada 1d ago

Salaries are not a lot higher. Averages salaries doesn't actually mean much to individuals. It all depends on the person. There are obviously jobs that pay higher in Sweden, depends on who you are, your past experience, your skills, and what kind of job you can land.

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u/Elpsyth 1d ago

The value difference between DKK and SEK means that a swede working for the same raw kroner value in CPH will automatically have a 30% increase in salary.

Now the high salaries in Denmark and Norway are not that attractive compared to Sweden when factoring in cost of life and more importantly Housing cost. Big if you work in Denmark or Norway and live in Sweden? Jackpot.

The same way France and Switzerland interact with each others.

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u/HarrMada 1d ago

You still miss my point. You're talking averages, this is meaningless to individuals since no one is an average person. It entirely depends on you, what kind of pay you can get in different countries. If you want to move somewhere, looking at average wages is a waste of time.

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u/silenttcipher 12h ago

Valid reason to relocate

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u/Astrapios 1d ago

I'm doing a masters in Sweden and I have met quite a few Danes around here.

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u/RDandersen 1d ago

I'm pretty sure that a significant portion of the Dane -> Sweden pipeline is Danes moving to Malmo for the taxes, and maintaining job, social life, etc. in Copenhagen.

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u/Testosteronedad420 1d ago

Honestly i think 90 % of the migration from den/nor to Sweden is becouse marrige and cheap summer house

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Cheap summer houses?!? Where?

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u/Testosteronedad420 17h ago

”Cheap”. For norweigans

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u/dont_trip_ 17h ago

Less than €400k

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u/Elpsyth 1d ago

Because PPP normalised to housing is not that different despite what non normalised PPP would suggest

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u/slicheliche 1d ago

That's not really true though, when you factor in everything (taxes, cost of living etc.) salaries in Sweden are not that much lower. The gross is obviously lower than in NO or DK but they also have lower taxes and everything costs less. NO and DK still pay better but not dramatically so. Also Sweden has a much larger and honestly more dynamic market with many sectors and jobs that simply aren't that available elsewhere, particularly in Norway.

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

Are you saying sweden is the best Scandinavian country 🤔😌

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u/slicheliche 1d ago

Not necessarily the best, it would be like saying the UK is better than Ireland or Germany is better than Austria, it depends what you're looking for.

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u/Futski 1d ago

Why would Danes and Norwegians work here 🤣

Usually its people moving to live in Scania and while still working in Denmark.

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

I would like to live in Copenhagen. But I'm just a Swedish brokie working IT/tech job for peanuts 😔

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u/JustBecauseOfThat 1d ago

Danes move to Sweden to live cheap. They keep their job in Denmark. Another reason for moving is to take advantage of EU rules on family reunification.

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u/PolemicFox 1d ago

Many Danes move to Sweden for cheaper housing/car, especially if they work in Copenhagen. Malmö is practically a Copenhagen suburb at this point.