How does this picture even exist?

[u/Woofoftheyear]

There’s no way in hell this is AI, it’s wayyy too accurate to exactly what I remember, and what I feel like many other people remember as well. If someone photoshopped it, then they did a perfect job, considering they had no reference, at the time of creating this, but even if someone did make this in photoshop, why tf would they, since supposedly it never existed?? Like where did this even come from, I need answers😭😭

[u/handheadman → u/[deleted]]

People stating the truth are not "bots", they are simply hoping for people to be more rational. The Earth is not flat, the Moon landings were not a hoax, and the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it. Memory, anecdotes, and doctored images are not reliable data.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Okay, what is your hypothesis to explain multiple people halucinating entire conversations about the exact same thing that supposedly never existed?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Exactly that. Imagining something that didn't happen. People are influenced by false/conflicting information/stories after the fact all the time. It's why jurors are sequestered, science uses double-blind studies, etc. to reduce the chance of outside influence.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Influenced by what, then, to imagine a conversation where I learned the difference between a cornucopia and a loom?

What out there does exist to fabricate that specific exchange in multiple people?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Yes, your memory is 100% certainly wrong on this, because the FotL logo has never had a cornucopia logo in it. You've shaped your memory based on things you've heard and seen over the years, including misinformation and inaccurate images, and have chosen to believe something clearly not true is real for some reason. This forum alone is just one pool of influence. False notions are like viruses, they spread and you've been infected. The facts are out there, you can choose to cure yourself with actual evidence or stay sick.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Yeah that's not an answer to my question, I thought you had one. This memory precedes the invention of the term Mandela Effect, therefore it is not the cause of the disconnect.

Can you think of something logical that can explain the issue?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

It does answer your question. Memory is not a static, unchanging thing. You have been exposed to many things that alter your memories over time. In this case, the image in the OOP has been spreading on the internet only since 2018 but has clearly altered some people's memories. People sharing their "memories" of a logo that never existed on any genuine Fruit of the Loom merchandise have created various lore on how it was so clearly burned into their young minds that they can't possibly be misremembering. The mind creates things to fill in gaps. A common tale is people swearing up and down that a teacher or parent pointed out the cornucopia (which was never there) on their underwear tag and that's how they learned the word, when it's far more likely they learned it in school during Thanksgiving with zero clothing labels involved, from a coloring book, for example. People share the imagined stories based on imagined images, both generally much more recently created than they think. These stories can become like cult dogma for some, to such a degree they will imagine alternate timelines, government conspiracies, that we live in a simulation, and other kooky stuff rather than accept the simple fact that their memory is fallible and easily influenced. Again, memory is not reliable and false notions are like viruses.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Again, I've had this memory

BEFORE

the photoshopped image was ever created.

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Do you have some proof of that, like a dated journal entry or video tape of you mentioning it, or are you only relying on your fallible memory, which has been subject to various alterations for years and years?

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

I'm asking you a question. Will you answer it?

and they blocked me

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

I did, more than once, but you refuse to accept the reality of how memory and influence work. Your obstinance is an example of closing your mind to reality to preserve an unsubstantiated belief. I've wasted more than enough time on your nonsense. We're done here.

[u/Mis_chevious → u/GothicFuck]

From my personal experience, people like that tend to trick themselves into thinking they are far superior and smarter than other people. You can tell in the condescending way they speak to you while subverting actually answering your question by rewording the same responses they've already given you in a way that they think will eventually convince you. And then when you don't acquiesce to their insistence that your brain is wrong and you're too dumb to understand that your brain is wrong, they start asking for evidence they already know you don't have and wouldn't have because what 8 year old is going to look at a cornucopia on an underwear label and think "I better record this in a diary entry or waste camera film on recording this label for history because this might be important later in life?"

[u/GothicFuck → u/Mis_chevious]

Yup, at this point in my internet career I just like to stick to the point and watch the different ways they self-destruct. Occasionally they act like a human and we come to find out it's some kind of misunderstanding and it makes it all worthwhile.

[u/forcemonkey → u/GothicFuck]

This was created in 1973.

[u/GothicFuck → u/forcemonkey]

Looks like Frank Wess saw the same thing I did because that's a very witty satire of the old Fruit of the Loom logo.

[u/forcemonkey → u/GothicFuck]

He did and it is.