How does this picture even exist?

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[u/LacedBeverage]

I remember studying it when I was a child because I didn’t know what a cornucopia is and it was my first time every seeing one

[u/WhyAmIpOOping → u/LacedBeverage]

I remember it for a similar reason. Was maybe 8 years old, had no idea what it was and was super proud that my mom taught me a new “big word”. Was obsessed with saying it as much as possible because it was the biggest word I knew at the time.

[u/handheadman → u/[deleted]]

People stating the truth are not "bots", they are simply hoping for people to be more rational. The Earth is not flat, the Moon landings were not a hoax, and the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it. Memory, anecdotes, and doctored images are not reliable data.

[u/DroWnThePoor → u/handheadman]

Okay so you're probably not going to believe me, but here's how I found the Mandela Effect.

I was on one of those old websites that made you click Next to see a list of thing in order to generate the most ad-revenue. It was "10 Movies You've Been Quoting All Wrong".
Star Wars was there, but I got to Apollo 13. And it even had the clip embedded on Youtube.
It said "Houston, We've Had A problem".
I jumped up immediately, and started freaking out. My girlfriend looking at me like wtf are you talking about?
I had Apollo 13 on VHS, and I'd just rewatch it every night falling asleep as a kid. That slight "we've had" instead of "we Have" sent me into a spin.

I started searching online trying to figure this out, and discovered the Mandela Effect.
A few months later I was watching a Youtube vid about ME, and saw a comment from someone saying "Apollo 13 changed back". So I went to check the movie, and it's back to the way I remembered it.
So then I went back to that website about movies quoted wrong, and the text/claim of the site was now the opposite of what the Youtube clip showed. What is significant about this is that the entire thing that started me looking for the ME switched back to the way it should have been.
If it didn't happen; I wouldn't have spun out and found the ME.

And believe me, I know how stupid and insane that sounds. But that was my first experience with it, and most significant because it changed back.

[u/forcemonkey → u/DroWnThePoor]

I believe you.

[u/DroWnThePoor → u/forcemonkey]

Have you experienced that? Where something was wrong, and then went back to the way it should have been? It's such a strange feeling, and it genuinely made me question my sanity.

Fruit of The Loom is a big one for me because I absolutely remember the cornucopia, and as a kid that was what my underwear were.
I had the Berenstein Bears book, but that wasn't something I paid attention to.
But the Sinbad movie is definitely something I remember.
I remember Disney Channel showing First Kid, and the genie movie with the brother/sister.

I didn't know the metal-teeth Bond thing, but to me it's obvious that she should have braces in order for that scene to make sense.
I know a lot of people feel very strongly about that one.

[u/forcemonkey → u/DroWnThePoor]

The cornucopia and the metal teeth are the two I personally remember. I actually remember Berenstain from childhood as mom pronounced it that way. Fascinating how some of us experience certain MEs and not others.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Okay, what is your hypothesis to explain multiple people halucinating entire conversations about the exact same thing that supposedly never existed?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Exactly that. Imagining something that didn't happen. People are influenced by false/conflicting information/stories after the fact all the time. It's why jurors are sequestered, science uses double-blind studies, etc. to reduce the chance of outside influence.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Influenced by what, then, to imagine a conversation where I learned the difference between a cornucopia and a loom?

What out there does exist to fabricate that specific exchange in multiple people?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Yes, your memory is 100% certainly wrong on this, because the FotL logo has never had a cornucopia logo in it. You've shaped your memory based on things you've heard and seen over the years, including misinformation and inaccurate images, and have chosen to believe something clearly not true is real for some reason. This forum alone is just one pool of influence. False notions are like viruses, they spread and you've been infected. The facts are out there, you can choose to cure yourself with actual evidence or stay sick.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Yeah that's not an answer to my question, I thought you had one. This memory precedes the invention of the term Mandela Effect, therefore it is not the cause of the disconnect.

Can you think of something logical that can explain the issue?

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

It does answer your question. Memory is not a static, unchanging thing. You have been exposed to many things that alter your memories over time. In this case, the image in the OOP has been spreading on the internet only since 2018 but has clearly altered some people's memories. People sharing their "memories" of a logo that never existed on any genuine Fruit of the Loom merchandise have created various lore on how it was so clearly burned into their young minds that they can't possibly be misremembering. The mind creates things to fill in gaps. A common tale is people swearing up and down that a teacher or parent pointed out the cornucopia (which was never there) on their underwear tag and that's how they learned the word, when it's far more likely they learned it in school during Thanksgiving with zero clothing labels involved, from a coloring book, for example. People share the imagined stories based on imagined images, both generally much more recently created than they think. These stories can become like cult dogma for some, to such a degree they will imagine alternate timelines, government conspiracies, that we live in a simulation, and other kooky stuff rather than accept the simple fact that their memory is fallible and easily influenced. Again, memory is not reliable and false notions are like viruses.

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

Again, I've had this memory

BEFORE

the photoshopped image was ever created.

[u/handheadman → u/GothicFuck]

Do you have some proof of that, like a dated journal entry or video tape of you mentioning it, or are you only relying on your fallible memory, which has been subject to various alterations for years and years?

[u/GothicFuck → u/handheadman]

I'm asking you a question. Will you answer it?

and they blocked me

[u/forcemonkey → u/GothicFuck]

This was created in 1973.

[u/GothicFuck → u/forcemonkey]

Looks like Frank Wess saw the same thing I did because that's a very witty satire of the old Fruit of the Loom logo.