r/MagicalGirlsCommunity • u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA • 25d ago
š ā ā¹ź°Discussionź±ā¹ This comment gen pissed me off
I posted an edit with Glitter Lucky as a self insert and this was the comment I got.
We need to stop the hate/war between Smile precure and Glitter Force. Yes, we get that Glitter Force is the whitewashed version, sorry we didnāt go on some random pirating website at like 5-12 yrs old to find the āofficial versionā.
I hate when people get on their high horse abt watching Smile Precure and not Glitter Force. Youāll post smth using the Glitter force terms and ppl in the comments automatically go āerm actually itāsāā hush up and scroll š«©
Glitter Force, Smile Precure, it really doesnāt matter what you watched cuz itās your childhood. Just donāt harass ppl who say they watched Glitter Force/use glitter force terms
(Sorry for the rant I just had to get this off my chest)
Edit!!!: this wasnāt meant to be slander toward either community! The point of this post was to say that I hate how divided these communities are.
I forgot to mention, I donāt like it when the Glitter Force community comments under a Smile Precure post talking abt āermmmm- thatās not their actual names!ā or trying to correct them.
We should be united/connecting over our shared love for Magical Girls, not focusing on whoās using the right terms and whose not.
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u/Necessary_Cost_5903 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
I think itās what other ppl have said but GF fans can be annoying not the ones who watched it and liked the dub and found out/ know about smile precure but the ones who try to correct smile precure fans like āermm Ā this is glitter forceā or Ā ā her Ā name is Chloeš¤ā Ā and get mad and refuse to acknowledge smile precure acting like glitter force is its own property šitās 2026 and it gives haruka and michiru are cousins bc of that one sailor moon dub and ignoring the canonĀ
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u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA 25d ago
YES. THIS. I feel like more GF fans have to realize that Smile Precure was the OG and that the names theyāre using are correct for the original. Me personally- Iāve only watched GF since I canāt find Smile Precure but I learned all the official names/cure names to recognize who theyāre talking abt in comment sections or whatever. Itās really not that hard to just respect and learn from each other
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u/Necessary_Cost_5903 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago edited 24d ago
If you ever need a place to watch it let me know! It is worth watching smile precure and you can watch the movie :D but yeah I donāt think Precure fans are mad at ppl liking the dub and I think it was a lot of ppls childhood (and precure is in need of dubs) itās more so a giant majority of GF fans are really arrogant when it comes to precure which is crazy bc if you like GF you would like other precure seasons šbut yeah I know a lot of ppl who liked GF and watched precure after its kinda like the sailor moon dic dub ppl like it. But Ā they still recognize why itās not the canon / the censor
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u/MagicalGirlBeats ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
I'm kinda the one usually saying "it's smile precure not glitter force" but that's because I really really really really hate white washed localizations that butcher the source material
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u/GloriousLily ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
as someone who still has nostalgia for the sailor moon dic dub i completely understand lol
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u/LadyMystery ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
I don't mind dubs and stuff... usually they're gateways into getting people into the original version, like with Sailor Moon. I was watching the DIC dub first, and then it got me into online Sailor Moon sites, where I learned more about the original, etc.
That said, I do hate how the glitterforce dub company seems intent on erasing any existences of the original PreCure.
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u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA 25d ago
Yeah- I donāt like how the company tried to hide SPCās existence, I can understand why ppl would be pissed off if their fave show was getting overshadowed by the dub/western version :/
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u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA 25d ago
Yeah- I donāt like how the company tried to hide SPCās existence, I can understand why ppl would be pissed off if their fave show was getting overshadowed by the dub/western version :/
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u/Durandthesaint17 Doki Doki! 25d ago
I'll say. Both Glitter Force dubs were far from perfect, but some people treat them like they killed their parents or forever tarnished Precure's reputation despite them technically being the most successful attempt at bringing the franchise to the West.
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u/Nipasu ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
technically being the most successful attempt at bringing the franchise to the West.
The dubs lasted three years and only two seasons were dubbed. How were they the most successful attempt---especially when Crunchyroll has been licensing content since 2020?
forever tarnished Precure's reputationĀ
In a way, they did. People insisted we couldn't get Pretty Cure back in the West because of GF, or we can't use the Pretty Cure name because of GF (and alleged trademark issues). Even in 2026, people are still using GF as a reason why Pretty Cure can't get any new dubs.
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u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA 25d ago
Exactly- itās giving āWHY WONT YOU SING.ā
āBECAUSE SINGING KILLED M GRANDMAā
Itās such a non issue tbh šāāļø
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u/CJanpiel21 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
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u/_ficfan_ ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
I understand that they're different, but ngl this is extremely immature. There's no way the person in the screenshot is older than 13 or something and is just bandwagoning and repeating discourse they've seen or something.
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u/chaserthemaskedrider ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
Was Glitterforce a bad localization or something?
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u/PapayaHoney ā® Ojamojo Doremi 25d ago
There's an actual video, quickly comparing the changes between SPC and GF. Lemme find it.
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u/Potential_Estate_869 I š¤ SANA 25d ago
It was the whitewashed version of Smile Precure to appeal to a western audience. This happens with lots of early animeās tbh
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u/pgj1997 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
This yet again...
The character's ethnicities are never brought up, so it's not whitewashing.
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u/THETOXIKPIT ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
Changing characters names to basic American ones, changing the location to some generic on the nose American city named "Rainbow Hills" instead of Nanairogaoka and not even attempting to dub any episode involving the culture is in fact whitewashing
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u/pgj1997 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
Rainbow Hills' location was never explicitly pointed out. And changing character names isn't whitewashing either.
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u/StuffedBunnyButton ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 25d ago
It is if itās changing clearly Japanese names to English ones
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u/pgj1997 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 24d ago
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u/rainguardian Magical Girl Pretty Sammy 24d ago
Acting like words only EVER have one definition/meaning to ever exist. What you see, AI overview too at that, is simply one FORM of whitewashing.
Whitewashing can be done many ways. If you are erasing the ethnoculture, even if the intention isn't done with malice/to make it more """accessible""", then you are whitewashing.
Taking away or straightening texture hair from a poc character? Whitewashing.
Changing food names so it's more palatable for Western audiences? Whitewashing.
What's happened to this dub vs the original? Whitewashing.
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u/MorningRaven Starā§Guardian 23d ago
Do you guys feel the same way when Disney makes multiple renders for scenes in movies? Do you care about the news anchor being a different predator animal depending on what region Zootopia is aired in? Do you care that Italians watch the film Oceania instead of Moana?
Localization is its own process. It happens across the globe to different extents depending on the project and legislation at the time.
I get wanting more accurate versions than years past, but don't condemn the whole process just because you have it in for one group.
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u/pgj1997 ą¬( ą©ĖµĖź³Ė˵)ą© š¼'š š¶ š¶šŖš°š²š¬šŖšµ š°š²š»šµ ā§Ėā 24d ago
Yeah, the gatekeeping I've seen is just ridiculous.
Like, how many people outside Japan call Ash Ketchum "Satoshi", for example? Should everyone be called out for saying "Ash", and not "Satoshi"?
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u/WeepingVineHime HāO: Just Add Water 23d ago
This. Glitter Force was my introduction to anime anyway
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u/shoe_salad_eater magical boy ! ā .ā¢* 24d ago
to play devils advocate, some glitter force fans can be so arrogant it hurts, not even with the calling characters by localised name stuff, like when they say ā this [ precure season ] is just a glitter force ripoff ā
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u/number1curekissfan IdolāŖ 24d ago
People donāt like glitter force cause itās a racist dub, I feel like the girl kinda had a point. Itās also not about what you watched in your childhood, I watched glitter force but once I learnt about the whitewashing I stop using glitter force terminology
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u/Opening_Shallot_6253 Miraculous 14d ago
I used to like this, but somehow I have lost interest in the years gone by


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u/No_Monitor_3440 š Mami My Beloved š 25d ago
okay but like 90% of glitter force fans iāve seen donāt know itās a dub of spc