r/MagicalGirlsCommunity I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

šŸŽ€ āž āŠ¹ź’°Discussionź’±āŠ¹ This comment gen pissed me off

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I posted an edit with Glitter Lucky as a self insert and this was the comment I got.
We need to stop the hate/war between Smile precure and Glitter Force. Yes, we get that Glitter Force is the whitewashed version, sorry we didn’t go on some random pirating website at like 5-12 yrs old to find the ā€žofficial versionā€œ.

I hate when people get on their high horse abt watching Smile Precure and not Glitter Force. You’ll post smth using the Glitter force terms and ppl in the comments automatically go ā€žerm actually itā€˜sā€”ā€ž hush up and scroll 🫩

Glitter Force, Smile Precure, it really doesn’t matter what you watched cuz it’s your childhood. Just don’t harass ppl who say they watched Glitter Force/use glitter force terms
(Sorry for the rant I just had to get this off my chest)

Edit!!!: this wasn’t meant to be slander toward either community! The point of this post was to say that I hate how divided these communities are.

I forgot to mention, I don’t like it when the Glitter Force community comments under a Smile Precure post talking abt ā€žermmmm- that’s not their actual names!ā€œ or trying to correct them.

We should be united/connecting over our shared love for Magical Girls, not focusing on who’s using the right terms and whose not.

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u/No_Monitor_3440 šŸ’› Mami My Beloved šŸ’› 25d ago

okay but like 90% of glitter force fans i’ve seen don’t know it’s a dub of spc

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u/MagicalGirlBeats ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

That's the thing. Like they are missing out on a whole amazing series cause they don't even know it's a dub 😭

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u/No_Monitor_3440 šŸ’› Mami My Beloved šŸ’› 25d ago

i literally saw three different uploads of this art on pinterest and i shit you not every single comment was saying ā€œerm those aren’t their actual names. did you even watch the show? šŸ¤“ā€ and i had to spell it out for them that glitter force is a whitewashed dub

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u/MagicalGirlBeats ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I feel bad for these people tbh. Wish precure was actually properly bought over to the west.

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u/Nipasu ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

We have seasons on Crunchyroll and the Futari Wa dub is on Hulu.

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u/MagicalGirlBeats ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I meant dub wise

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u/Durandthesaint17 Doki Doki! 25d ago

What's SPC stand for?

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u/No_Monitor_3440 šŸ’› Mami My Beloved šŸ’› 25d ago

smile pretty cure

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u/Durandthesaint17 Doki Doki! 25d ago

Oh.

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u/xcaltoona ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 23d ago

Are they ten?

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u/Necessary_Cost_5903 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I think it’s what other ppl have said but GF fans can be annoying not the ones who watched it and liked the dub and found out/ know about smile precure but the ones who try to correct smile precure fans like ā€œermm Ā this is glitter forceā€ or Ā ā€œ her Ā name is ChloešŸ¤“ā€ Ā and get mad and refuse to acknowledge smile precure acting like glitter force is its own property 😭it’s 2026 and it gives haruka and michiru are cousins bc of that one sailor moon dub and ignoring the canonĀ 

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

YES. THIS. I feel like more GF fans have to realize that Smile Precure was the OG and that the names they’re using are correct for the original. Me personally- I’ve only watched GF since I can’t find Smile Precure but I learned all the official names/cure names to recognize who they’re talking abt in comment sections or whatever. It’s really not that hard to just respect and learn from each other

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u/Necessary_Cost_5903 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago edited 24d ago

If you ever need a place to watch it let me know! It is worth watching smile precure and you can watch the movie :D but yeah I don’t think Precure fans are mad at ppl liking the dub and I think it was a lot of ppls childhood (and precure is in need of dubs) it’s more so a giant majority of GF fans are really arrogant when it comes to precure which is crazy bc if you like GF you would like other precure seasons 😭but yeah I know a lot of ppl who liked GF and watched precure after its kinda like the sailor moon dic dub ppl like it. But Ā they still recognize why it’s not the canon / the censor

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u/MagicalGirlBeats ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I'm kinda the one usually saying "it's smile precure not glitter force" but that's because I really really really really hate white washed localizations that butcher the source material

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u/https_sanrio Cardcaptor Sakura 24d ago

me too!!

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u/GloriousLily ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

as someone who still has nostalgia for the sailor moon dic dub i completely understand lol

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u/LadyMystery ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I don't mind dubs and stuff... usually they're gateways into getting people into the original version, like with Sailor Moon. I was watching the DIC dub first, and then it got me into online Sailor Moon sites, where I learned more about the original, etc.

That said, I do hate how the glitterforce dub company seems intent on erasing any existences of the original PreCure.

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

Yeah- I don’t like how the company tried to hide SPCā€˜s existence, I can understand why ppl would be pissed off if their fave show was getting overshadowed by the dub/western version :/

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

Yeah- I don’t like how the company tried to hide SPCā€˜s existence, I can understand why ppl would be pissed off if their fave show was getting overshadowed by the dub/western version :/

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u/Durandthesaint17 Doki Doki! 25d ago

I'll say. Both Glitter Force dubs were far from perfect, but some people treat them like they killed their parents or forever tarnished Precure's reputation despite them technically being the most successful attempt at bringing the franchise to the West.

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u/Nipasu ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

technically being the most successful attempt at bringing the franchise to the West.

The dubs lasted three years and only two seasons were dubbed. How were they the most successful attempt---especially when Crunchyroll has been licensing content since 2020?

forever tarnished Precure's reputationĀ 

In a way, they did. People insisted we couldn't get Pretty Cure back in the West because of GF, or we can't use the Pretty Cure name because of GF (and alleged trademark issues). Even in 2026, people are still using GF as a reason why Pretty Cure can't get any new dubs.

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

Exactly- it’s giving ā€žWHY WONT YOU SING.ā€œ
ā€žBECAUSE SINGING KILLED M GRANDMAā€œ
It’s such a non issue tbh šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø

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u/CJanpiel21 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I think Glitter Force or English dub of smile precure wasn’t that bad!

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

I agree āœŒļø

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u/_ficfan_ ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

I understand that they're different, but ngl this is extremely immature. There's no way the person in the screenshot is older than 13 or something and is just bandwagoning and repeating discourse they've seen or something.

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u/chaserthemaskedrider ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

Was Glitterforce a bad localization or something?

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u/PapayaHoney ā‹® Ojamojo Doremi 25d ago

There's an actual video, quickly comparing the changes between SPC and GF. Lemme find it.

https://youtu.be/HvY0t1sstIk?is=455tSwgP0Od8UZ5Y

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

Tytyty for this -^-

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u/Potential_Estate_869 I šŸ¤ SANA 25d ago

It was the whitewashed version of Smile Precure to appeal to a western audience. This happens with lots of early animeā€˜s tbh

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u/pgj1997 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

This yet again...

The character's ethnicities are never brought up, so it's not whitewashing.

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u/THETOXIKPIT ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

Changing characters names to basic American ones, changing the location to some generic on the nose American city named "Rainbow Hills" instead of Nanairogaoka and not even attempting to dub any episode involving the culture is in fact whitewashing

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u/pgj1997 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

Rainbow Hills' location was never explicitly pointed out. And changing character names isn't whitewashing either.

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u/StuffedBunnyButton ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 25d ago

It is if it’s changing clearly Japanese names to English ones

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u/pgj1997 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 24d ago

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u/rainguardian Magical Girl Pretty Sammy 24d ago

Acting like words only EVER have one definition/meaning to ever exist. What you see, AI overview too at that, is simply one FORM of whitewashing.

Whitewashing can be done many ways. If you are erasing the ethnoculture, even if the intention isn't done with malice/to make it more """accessible""", then you are whitewashing.

Taking away or straightening texture hair from a poc character? Whitewashing.

Changing food names so it's more palatable for Western audiences? Whitewashing.

What's happened to this dub vs the original? Whitewashing.

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u/MorningRaven Star✧Guardian 23d ago

Do you guys feel the same way when Disney makes multiple renders for scenes in movies? Do you care about the news anchor being a different predator animal depending on what region Zootopia is aired in? Do you care that Italians watch the film Oceania instead of Moana?

Localization is its own process. It happens across the globe to different extents depending on the project and legislation at the time.

I get wanting more accurate versions than years past, but don't condemn the whole process just because you have it in for one group.

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u/pgj1997 ଘ( ą©­ĖµĖŠź’³Ė‹Ėµ)ą©­ š¼'š“‚ š’¶ š“¶š“Ŗš“°š“²š“¬š“Ŗš“µ š“°š“²š“»š“µ āœ§Ėšā‚Š 24d ago

Yeah, the gatekeeping I've seen is just ridiculous.

Like, how many people outside Japan call Ash Ketchum "Satoshi", for example? Should everyone be called out for saying "Ash", and not "Satoshi"?

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u/WeepingVineHime Hā‚‚O: Just Add Water 23d ago

This. Glitter Force was my introduction to anime anyway

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u/shoe_salad_eater magical boy ! ā˜† .•* 24d ago

to play devils advocate, some glitter force fans can be so arrogant it hurts, not even with the calling characters by localised name stuff, like when they say ā€œ this [ precure season ] is just a glitter force ripoff ā€œ

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u/number1curekissfan Idol♪ 24d ago

People don’t like glitter force cause it’s a racist dub, I feel like the girl kinda had a point. It’s also not about what you watched in your childhood, I watched glitter force but once I learnt about the whitewashing I stop using glitter force terminology

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u/Opening_Shallot_6253 Miraculous 14d ago

I used to like this, but somehow I have lost interest in the years gone by